Uneducated Gaming Parent Syndrome

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Irridium said:
Thats... not that bad actually. Trust me, I work in games retail, I've seen worse. Much worse.

You'd be amazed at how many parents readily buy their kids violent games. Yes they do need to be educated, and I do my part. I've stopped many-a-kid from getting Halo 3/MW2.

When I say kid I'm talking 7-13.

The kids get pissed, but I don't care. Thats one less violent game in the hands of a kid, one more educated parent, and one less high-voiced kid online. I've done good.
You inspire me, sir!

OT: Well that's not bad at all. If the kids were young enough to go buying video games with their mum then they probably SHOULD be playing those wii tennis games.
I hate it when I see 12 year olds go into a store and their parents just go "get something", young child then picks up MW2 and the parents don't even read the game name. They just hand over cash.
 

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Parents need to be educated for themselves as well, so they don't waste money. For example, my parents have bought me a few xbox 360 games, when I only have an original xbox, and because they threw out the receipts they couldn't return them.
 

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while many parents dont know about ratings systems and what makes a good game or not the smarter ones will tend to ask for help from the people around them im reminded of a time i went to best buy around christmas in was walking through the nintendo isle when a woman stoped and asked what i thought was the better game to buy her 14 year old son and held up a copy of pokemon platnium and gta china town wars i informed her of each of the games contents and suggested pokemon
 

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This actually reminds me of a good gaming parent scene I witnessed a few months back. This mom and her young son, maybe 10 years old, were in an EB at the same time I was. She goes up to the counter and starts asking the clerk about what sort of content is in GTA4 and whether he thinks it would be appropriate for her son. The clerk, of course, says no and gives her a run down of what's in the game. The mom then basically turns to her son and says "See, that's why you can't have it and you shouldn't have tried to pull one over on me." It seems she had known about the game's content ahead of time and was just proving a point to her son that she was more aware of things than he thought she was.
you should have walked up to her and congratulated her for being a good parent for knowing wtf she was doing.
 

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Eqan Asif said:
jarredtheawesome said:
Eqan Asif said:
A couple of weeks back, I was picking Call of Duty 3 (again--my copies keep breaking down) while an 8-10 year-old boy walked in with this mom, and slightly older sister, requesting to pre-order Call of Duty Black Ops. The store associate enthusiastically did his job and told of the great features in the game. While I just stood with my mouth wide open at all the bull crap. Lady, have you seen the rating on that damn game? Or how about you join your son for a session of Xbox Live one day, huh?

Also, speaking of wasting money. I was forced to buy my 8 year-old niece Cats, because the "kittens look[ed] soo cute."

EDIT: I actually didn't pay for the game, my sister-in-law did.
You have COD3 haha what do you even do in it? i just like to play split screen with my friends on it on uhm shoot whats its called oh yeah eder dam its the best map on there we all fight for control of the house
I played CoD: MW2, I thought it had a decent single-player campaign but I just couldn't bring myself to play it online. CoD 3 is the only game I enjoying playing online--I like TF2, too, but I suck at it too much.

There are quiet a few people that play Call of Duty 3 online, still! If you have Xbox Live, I can prove it to you.
ah dude totally hit me up some time my GT is Bourngamer42
 

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Irridium said:
Thats... not that bad actually. Trust me, I work in games retail, I've seen worse. Much worse.

You'd be amazed at how many parents readily buy their kids violent games. Yes they do need to be educated, and I do my part. I've stopped many-a-kid from getting Halo 3/MW2.

When I say kid I'm talking 7-13.

The kids get pissed, but I don't care. Thats one less violent game in the hands of a kid, one more educated parent, and one less high-voiced kid online. I've done good.

Well i think the probablem with this is the fact that some kids that are 11-13 arnt the annoying bitchy sterotypic kids that we all so hate on xbox live. I game myself and im only 13. I don't think that some kids can be deprived of a game because of age because my friends and I are all mature gamers who dont complain whenever we die, we barely even touch our mics. So if anything it shouldn't be games that have an age limit, its mics.
 

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Irridium said:
Thats... not that bad actually. Trust me, I work in games retail, I've seen worse. Much worse.

You'd be amazed at how many parents readily buy their kids violent games. Yes they do need to be educated, and I do my part. I've stopped many-a-kid from getting Halo 3/MW2.

When I say kid I'm talking 7-13.

The kids get pissed, but I don't care. Thats one less violent game in the hands of a kid, one more educated parent, and one less high-voiced kid online. I've done good.
What kind of rating system do you have? In Australia Halo 3 is M, meaning it's available to the general public regardless of age with MW2 being MA, meaning it can only be purchased by those 15 years or older.
 

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hm...well I like a ton of different sorts of games, and gods know I'd get my kid a game they could actaully PLAY. I was letting a friend of mine's like, 7-year-old daughter play my pokemon soulsilver game last weekend (tho I told her, just do NOT save - she was playing my game-save, and she listened and didnt save) and she had no idea what any of it was - she got really SUPER excited whenever my lv 20-something quilava would kill a bloody kakuna. though I'm guessing she'd never played any of the games either but i was glad to see she was enjoying herself.

either way, I'd definitely go for saying what the parent knows about their kid should coincide with what they let them get. when im a mother would I stop my ten-year old from getting a violent game? maybe, depending on if i'd heard of it or seen demos. or i'd tell them "we'll see, maybe next time", then use the internet to see what the game's like. research should be a key factor in treading unknown ground.

my mother knew i liked pokemon, so when i was younger, it was a good bet if a new release came out that I didnt have, I'd likely be getting that for my birthday or xmas. it should just be about seeing what your children enjoy and picking games they're likely to PLAY.
 

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jarredtheawesome said:
Today i was in my local brick and mortar game store buying the game Eternal Sonata when i came upon some little kids with their mother. they were trying to buy some new Wii games. Now these were some i dont know 8 to 10 year old kids and the mother was trying to recommend games for them. She had no idea what she was talking about either! she would say oh do you want back yard football? or how about this tennis game! now i know that this isnt my place to tell parents that they are idiots and that even though the wii lacks tons of amazing games (to all fanboys i still want one for the soon to be amazing line up) but i knew right away that these kids were victims of uneducated gaming parent syndrome. The parents will never go for the good game because they wont research what the good games are. if i walk into a game store i hear something like this all the time like my very favorite, Does mario galaxy come on the xbox 360 you should have seen this employees face (i digress) my question to you all is, "do parents need to be more educated on what they are buying for their kids so that they dont waste their money?" And also if you want throw down a funny story im all ears
[Edit] This could also be about the whole parents shouldnt even buy their kids violent video games
I've seen this kind of thing too, but you might be mis-interpeting it as well. Don't forget you've got parents who want to get their kids a game or two to keep them occupied, but also don't want to spend a lot of money. Sure, they know that there are expensive games their kids will love, I mean they see the TV commercials too, and they probably are quite aware of some of the games on the shelves, but they don't want to pay the money, especially seeing as with kids and video games it can be a big risk as to whether it's going to keep them occupied or not.

Chances are "Back Yard Football" or one of the myriad Wii Tennis games that seem to be out there are massively cheaper than say some of the newly released titles like "Super Mario Galaxy 2". With the wii in paticular games vary greatly in price due to it's mixed record of success, ranging from regular new release price games, to some that are insanely cheap especially used.... The savvy parent of 8 to 10 year olds probably wants insanely cheap, and is hoping their kids can be convinced to be satiated at least temporarly by something that doesn't cost a lot of money.

Of course kids aren't that stupid, I mean chances are as kids we all had situations where our parents were going to get us a toy, and we had the one we wanted in mind (and our parents knew this) but tried to convince us that somehting similar but obviously inferior was "the same thing". You know getting something like "Army Action Guy!" instead of an actual "GI Joe" character you thought was cool.

Are the parents actually that ignorant, or are they playing a role for their kids?

Oh sure, I suppose the "Do they have Mario Galaxy for the 360" thing is pretty bad, that's sort of like someone getting the Marvel and DC comics universes confused when talking about super heroes or whatever, but then again a lot of parents grew up just before gaming started to become as big as it is now. As "dumb" as it sounds a parent with little free time doesn't have time to really educate themselves on video games (if they didn't grow up with them) any more than they do to actually learning the ins and outs of Pokemon just because their kids play it.

On a side note for those who mentioned it, I will say that when it comes to video game ratings I personally blame the people who have messed them up more than the parents in most cases. I think a lot of the problems today aren't so much that parents don't "know the ratings" but simply that all consistincy with them has broken down compared to say Hollywood. With say a movie you know that in a PG-13 movie there can be breasts, but no full frontal nudity, and there might be some kissing and making out, but no paticularly graphic sex scenes. With video games this is what a "T" rating is supposed to be, however due to some overenthusiastic "protect the children" politicians, and a gaming industry that isn't willing to fight for itself or maintain ratings integrity, a lot of games with "T" rated sex and violent content get marked "M", leading a lot of informed parents who have seen games to treat that rating like they should the "T" one. Sadly this means when a game that really deserves an "M" rating comes along people get shocked and scandalized that they brought it into the house, when the problem could have been averted had prudes not been forcing people to "up rate" so many games.

Or simply put, the current rating system is garbage, and the only safe way to buy games is if parents can be familiar with every title they buy, which is frankly unreasonable since few working parents with children are going to have enough time for that kind of thing.

I applaud gamestop employees who do their job, and I do think enforcing the age limits on "M" rated games is a good thing on principle, no matter how mature some kids think they are.

On the other hand there are a number of games that are "M" rated that I remember having nothing in them that I would object to a 13 year old seeing, since it's on the level of a PG-13 movie. This is from the unusual position of being fully aware of the titles though, which is why I crticize the ratings. I don't nessicarly think that a parent buying an "M" rated title for a teen (not a young child) is nessicarly a sign of a bad parent. I mean heck as a teenager I grew up with horror movies and became something a of a genere fanboy, not to mention all those great campy vintage action flix (like Total Recall, which people were discussing due to an impending remake). I'm not a big "Halo" fan, so I could be forgetting something but if that is "M" rated, I think it's probably a good example of exactly why the rating system is borked because I can't see any reason why a 13 or 14 year old would have a problem with that. I mean nothing I've seen in that, and other similar games, is any worse than your typical Arnie movie.
 
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parents do need to be educated a bit, enough to know how the system works and hte ratings, but for hte most part let the CHILD pick the games (of course respectful of the ratings) because in the past, im sure its happened to other people, you have been bought a game by a parent or relative..and the game was a piece of shit shovelware that had your attention for maybe 2 minutes. if that. that was a complete fucking waste of 50 bucks. so all in all, when i have kids, (i do this with my brothers occasionally) i let them check out the games and ill give small suggestions and they end up picking something out, and ill generally approve, and we are all on our way happy.

i truly do not believe in the ratings system..yet it is there, and i try to abide by it as much as i can for everyone else, however i think for the more then average person, its the dumbest thing on the planet, while the average person (as in IQ of 80) it does the parenting for them as they dont know shit on anything.
 

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Irridium said:
Thats... not that bad actually. Trust me, I work in games retail, I've seen worse. Much worse.

You'd be amazed at how many parents readily buy their kids violent games. Yes they do need to be educated, and I do my part. I've stopped many-a-kid from getting Halo 3/MW2.

When I say kid I'm talking 7-13.

The kids get pissed, but I don't care. Thats one less violent game in the hands of a kid, one more educated parent, and one less high-voiced kid online. I've done good.
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Redwall said:
Irridium said:
Thats... not that bad actually. Trust me, I work in games retail, I've seen worse. Much worse.

You'd be amazed at how many parents readily buy their kids violent games. Yes they do need to be educated, and I do my part. I've stopped many-a-kid from getting Halo 3/MW2.

When I say kid I'm talking 7-13.

The kids get pissed, but I don't care. Thats one less violent game in the hands of a kid, one more educated parent, and one less high-voiced kid online. I've done good.
What kind of rating system do you have? In Australia Halo 3 is M, meaning it's available to the general public regardless of age with MW2 being MA, meaning it can only be purchased by those 15 years or older.
In the US both Halo 3 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 are rated M. This means it's recommended that only people 17 or older play them.

There's absolutely no government enforcement of ESRB ratings, but nearly every game retailer follows the guidelines. Here's a quick guide to ESRB ratings. [http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp]
 

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No parents don't need to be educated for the same reason I don't need to know about boats. I don't own or buy boats so they are not important to me. Parents don't really give a damn about games so its not important to them. The kids should choose what to buy (it's there game after all) and the mom should know enough to decide if it's appropriate for them (The ESRB has made this painfully easy). There's no reason to research game sot go to the local shops and buy a game for your kid in the same way you don't research action figures to find the best one to buy. It annoys gamers that parents are ignorant but it annoys everyone when you say something painfully stupid out of ignorance, not just gamers.
 

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Therumancer said:
I've seen this kind of thing too, but you might be mis-interpeting it as well. Don't forget you've got parents who want to get their kids a game or two to keep them occupied, but also don't want to spend a lot of money. Sure, they know that there are expensive games their kids will love, I mean they see the TV commercials too, and they probably are quite aware of some of the games on the shelves, but they don't want to pay the money, especially seeing as with kids and video games it can be a big risk as to whether it's going to keep them occupied or not.

Chances are "Back Yard Football" or one of the myriad Wii Tennis games that seem to be out there are massively cheaper than say some of the newly released titles like "Super Mario Galaxy 2". With the wii in paticular games vary greatly in price due to it's mixed record of success, ranging from regular new release price games, to some that are insanely cheap especially used.... The savvy parent of 8 to 10 year olds probably wants insanely cheap, and is hoping their kids can be convinced to be satiated at least temporarly by something that doesn't cost a lot of money.

Of course kids aren't that stupid, I mean chances are as kids we all had situations where our parents were going to get us a toy, and we had the one we wanted in mind (and our parents knew this) but tried to convince us that somehting similar but obviously inferior was "the same thing". You know getting something like "Army Action Guy!" instead of an actual "GI Joe" character you thought was cool.

Are the parents actually that ignorant, or are they playing a role for their kids?

Oh sure, I suppose the "Do they have Mario Galaxy for the 360" thing is pretty bad, that's sort of like someone getting the Marvel and DC comics universes confused when talking about super heroes or whatever, but then again a lot of parents grew up just before gaming started to become as big as it is now. As "dumb" as it sounds a parent with little free time doesn't have time to really educate themselves on video games (if they didn't grow up with them) any more than they do to actually learning the ins and outs of Pokemon just because their kids play it.

On a side note for those who mentioned it, I will say that when it comes to video game ratings I personally blame the people who have messed them up more than the parents in most cases. I think a lot of the problems today aren't so much that parents don't "know the ratings" but simply that all consistincy with them has broken down compared to say Hollywood. With say a movie you know that in a PG-13 movie there can be breasts, but no full frontal nudity, and there might be some kissing and making out, but no paticularly graphic sex scenes. With video games this is what a "T" rating is supposed to be, however due to some overenthusiastic "protect the children" politicians, and a gaming industry that isn't willing to fight for itself or maintain ratings integrity, a lot of games with "T" rated sex and violent content get marked "M", leading a lot of informed parents who have seen games to treat that rating like they should the "T" one. Sadly this means when a game that really deserves an "M" rating comes along people get shocked and scandalized that they brought it into the house, when the problem could have been averted had prudes not been forcing people to "up rate" so many games.

Or simply put, the current rating system is garbage, and the only safe way to buy games is if parents can be familiar with every title they buy, which is frankly unreasonable since few working parents with children are going to have enough time for that kind of thing.

I applaud gamestop employees who do their job, and I do think enforcing the age limits on "M" rated games is a good thing on principle, no matter how mature some kids think they are.

On the other hand there are a number of games that are "M" rated that I remember having nothing in them that I would object to a 13 year old seeing, since it's on the level of a PG-13 movie. This is from the unusual position of being fully aware of the titles though, which is why I crticize the ratings. I don't nessicarly think that a parent buying an "M" rated title for a teen (not a young child) is nessicarly a sign of a bad parent. I mean heck as a teenager I grew up with horror movies and became something a of a genere fanboy, not to mention all those great campy vintage action flix (like Total Recall, which people were discussing due to an impending remake). I'm not a big "Halo" fan, so I could be forgetting something but if that is "M" rated, I think it's probably a good example of exactly why the rating system is borked because I can't see any reason why a 13 or 14 year old would have a problem with that. I mean nothing I've seen in that, and other similar games, is any worse than your typical Arnie movie.

Yeah it may have been long but i read it all and you are right there are a ton of games that dont deserve the M rating *especially* Halo i cant think of any sort of sex, or real violence over alien blood because when you hit some one it isnt even a gore bath like Gears of war in which they say fuck once a chapter it is definitely a PG-13 game