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chiggerwood said:
Meta humor. Almost nobody knows how to use meta humor. The worst ones are when the joke almost works, and then they bring too much attention to how meta they're being and completely ruin the joke. See phelous for a good example of truly awful meta humor with no justification for its existence. Caution upon viewing his videos you may have an extreme urge to to stab yourself in the brain with a fork to remove all the bad memories. You have been warned.
Vault101 said:
over doing it
take Nostalga critic.....I think he's good and all, but latley his videos have been kind of dull....
its hard to explain but its like he makes a joke but drags it on too long or brings too much attention to it which kills it
also....nothing...NOTHING about nerds/geeks....their interests, their short comings, the way the talk, the fact they like starwars/star trek...the fact that they use words that are actually NOT that fucking complicated except mabye to the dumbasses watching daid show
NONE OF THAT IS FUNNY
To chiggerwood: Can you present a good example of meta humor to compare with Phelous?
To chiggerwood and Vault101: Oh? you dont like meta jokes that are lame (like using the words character or plot over and over?) or over used star wars and start trek references? Well....search no further than the atrocious new anniversary video "To Bodly Flee".
You ALL have been warned.......
PS: I hate it when this kind of people that SHOULD know any better end up screwing up and make everything more hard for everyone who REALLY knows how it should be done, but have a hard time publishing this kind of meta ideas to the world because people now DESPICE those ideas because they are being overused by hacks.
Imagine trying to write or make a movie about a killer black mist of Lovecraftian origins (like Nyarlathotep) but cant do it because some hack made the same thing before in Rise of The Silver Surfer, and it sucked so hard that people HATE anything related to it, specially Galactus who was made into being a black cloud/myst.
Hell, even if you did a good movie/game before anyone fucks those concepts up, you can STILL be labeled as a hack just because some moron does so horribly or because the concept has been used as a dead horse. Case in point of this "Poison The Well" fallacy, Metroid Prime ends up being labeled as a bankrupt game just because the CoD FPS fest (wont you agree, Movie Bob?)
My point is, if you dont know how to pull it off properly then WHY are you even DOING this?
Zyst said:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakingTheFourthWall
Breaking the Fourth Wall, when done properly I can maybe get a smirk out of it (depending on the show) but I recently watched an anime (something synphogear) where one of the female characters, literally, every fucking time she showed up, every single fucking time said "This is not an anime! You can't do that" that kind of crap, I mean I know it's not EXACTLY breaking the fourth wall but I don't know exactly which trope it is.
It got to a point where I literally got pissed off every time I saw that character, even in the last episode with epic scale battles going on and crap she squeezed in the line at least 3 times, it just made me rage so hard and the anime wasn't that good anyway.
But yeah... I feel like I just vented instead of giving my opinion but oh well haha.
How about breaking it for terror without actually spelling out that the monster is out to get you? imagine a being so powerful that the glass of your monitor starts to break gradually during the plot (it may even last an entire episode with the cracks still there).
Not only that, the music starts to distort more often and even if OUR reality tries to fight back this thing by healing the fourth wall, it is broken even WORSE the more that monster displays his powers....
Can you present a similar example?
