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Tanner The Monotone

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Gypsybob said:
We should all just go back to having Kings and Queens. A prince or princess is guaranteed power so there would be no need to lie to the masses in expensive election campaigns.
Maybe a Dictatorship, but the dictator gets to pick their replacement.
 

Tanner The Monotone

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I don't understand the need for drugs. I'm not just talking about illegal things, I'm talking about alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine. Although it's almost impossible to ban the latter examples because of the effect it would have on the world economy, I still wouldn't mind if they weren't used.

I also don't like porn. I know that people imagine themselves as the actor in the flick, but I don't understand how you ignore the fact that your watching two random people screw the crap out of each other and don't feel like a pervert. I also don't like how easy it is to access. There are probably a lot of kids out there that learned about sex from the internet.
 

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1) Maybe this one isn't as unpopular as I think it is, but I did not enjoy FF7. I think the series is overrated and they need to just let it die peacefully and stop making re-makes and spin-offs.

2) I think abortion is the merciful option. I think in a lot of cases, it's a better option than raising the child in a situation where no one wants them/has the means of taking care of them.

2b) I realize this isn't going to happen anytime soon, but I wish there was some sort of test parents had to pass before having a child.

3) It's stupid that men are expected to enjoy lesbian porn, but the moment I mention I like gay porn it's because I'm a freak.

4) I think rigid atheists are just as close-minded as rigid theists. We have no way of knowing for certain whether or not there is a god, so believing there is absolutely no god is just as close-minded as believing there is absolutely a god. Life isn't black and white.

5) It's been said, but I get sick of misanthropes and pessimistic people in general. Life has ups and downs, but why would you choose to make yourself miserable? IMO, this is the only life there is (unless you believe in an afterlife, which is a different discussion entirely) so be happy, dammit. No one wants to be around wet blankets.

5b) And don't tell me that you've been through a lot of shit, because so have I and I'm a pretty happy ************. Shit happens, you move on.

6) People need to spend more time minding their own business and less time trying to legislate everyone else's lives. If you don't like gay marriage, great, don't have one. If you don't like abortion, don't get one. Even if I was unlikely to get one myself, I still wouldn't ban it for everyone. Women should have reproductive rights.
 

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Tanner The Monotone said:
I don't understand the need for drugs. I'm not just talking about illegal things, I'm talking about alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine. Although it's almost impossible to ban the latter examples because of the effect it would have on the world economy, I still wouldn't mind if they weren't used.

I also don't like porn. I know that people imagine themselves as the actor in the flick, but I don't understand how you ignore the fact that your watching two random people screw the crap out of each other and don't feel like a pervert. I also don't like how easy it is to access. There are probably a lot of kids out there that learned about sex from the internet.
You want to ban things on the basis that you don't like them?
 

Tanner The Monotone

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Mayhaps said:
Tanner The Monotone said:
I don't understand the need for drugs. I'm not just talking about illegal things, I'm talking about alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine. Although it's almost impossible to ban the latter examples because of the effect it would have on the world economy, I still wouldn't mind if they weren't used.

I also don't like porn. I know that people imagine themselves as the actor in the flick, but I don't understand how you ignore the fact that your watching two random people screw the crap out of each other and don't feel like a pervert. I also don't like how easy it is to access. There are probably a lot of kids out there that learned about sex from the internet.
You want to ban things on the basis that you don't like them?
Don't we all?
 

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JoJo said:
I also don't get where you got this "we can't flat out read body signals" from because it's clearly defined as a "spectrum disorder" which means the strength of symptoms can vary widely between sufferers. If every Asperger's person found it completely 100% impossible to read body language then it wouldn't be a spectrum!
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Asperger's' defenition is so wide it captures pretty much everything from "slightly awkward and OCD" to "Sheldon Cooper", thus devaluing it and making it a useless, meaningless diagnosis. Social awkwardness, OCD (again, mostly a bullshit diagnosis since one can safely assume 100% of people have it in some form), and physical awkwardness (hoo boy) sure are a *****, but I firmly believe only the more or less extreme cases that cannot be overcome just with the sufferer's conscious effort and necessitate professional help should be qualified as a syndrome.

Same thing with ADD. It's also often used as a cop-out by teachers who don't want to tell the kid's parents their child is actually dumb or lazy, and that doesn't help things at all.
Apologies for late reply, forgot about this thread. To reply to your first paragraph, if someone had entirely overcome a disorder without any professional assistance then I too would have doubts about their diagnosis, but in reality this hasn't happened to me. As I said in my initial response to you, while I have learned to socialise to well-enough to hold down a job and have normal-ish friends I'm not up to neurotypical standard and will likely never be. Under your definition therefore I would still have it.

Really though, if you believe it should be redefined then that's up to you. I don't mind how you think it should be changed as long as you know the current way it's diagnosed since correcting a few (sadly not that common) misconceptions was the reason I originally jumped into this debate.
 

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People with very poor living standards and income should not be allowed to have children. Not like the bottom 25% of income, I'm talkin' the lowest 4-5% of people that have their lives out of control and can barely support themselves, let alone a child. You should be able to prove that you have your shit together before taking on the biggest possible responsibility in life.

I also think that countries that have too many people should just ship a couple thousand over to Japan, one of the only first world countries that has a decreasing population. Japan seems to have their stuff in order and could give people better opportunities than a place like India or China.

The death penalty should be legal for confirmed criminals and the process should be sped up so people like Charles Manson don't sit in their cell and burn government money awaiting execution.

There should be a cap on money people make, lets say around 500 million or something else completely ridiculous, where anything after that goes directly to charity. I think that's actually something almost everyone can agree with.

And for the last thing, I think that the world powers should just bum rush North Korea and destroy every trace of government there, handing power over to South Korea. The people in North Korea would benefit in the long run even if they're too brainwashed to know it.
 

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Ok.. I will say a few, I am disgusted by a lot of what I read here, however I will join in as that is the point :p

here goes

I think all religion should be abolished, believing in what you want is fine, organized religion is bad.
If religion is not to be abolished it should certainly hold absolutely no place in law, at all, and the religious organizations should not be tax exempt

Activision and Infinity Ward are absolute lying bastards. They betrayed the PC community and they laugh at us. We made infinity Ward, without us they would be nothing!
Call of Duty was good until modern warfare 2, which was utter shit, and modern warfare 3, which is even worse.

Far Cry 2 sucked ass and I have never been so disappointed in a game. Open world my ass. It is just roads surrounded by cliffs that you can't climb!

That is all I can think of at the moment.. oo and two more

I hate consoles! :D
I hate extreme console fanboys!
I have seen them say that PCs are not as powerful as consoles, What?! Modern PCs are literally 10x more powerful than consoles, console hardware is 7 years old!

(yes I realise I am a PC fanboy)
Thankyou :)
 

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My turn. *Flame shield, ACTIVATE! D:< *

I think Valve is a horrible game developer.

Half Life was absolute crap (seriously, I got bored of it after only 2 hours of play), Portal wasn't even their idea in the first place, and Portal 2 is a total cash-in.

The only thing is, they're an excellent company as a whole. Why? Because of Steam.

Steam is the single greatest invention to computer gaming, in my opinion. Primarily because it reminds me of Sega Channel, for the 32-bit Genesis, but...still.

Yeah. I just plain don't like Valve. Most of the games they come up with are borderline rudimentary, and the only reason why they're so popular is because they are rudimentary. There's no complex mechanics or strategies to understand until you're ready to become serious about the game, it's pretty much just pick up and play.
 

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- Theists opinion os not a valid point.

- Democracy is a fucking joke.

- I do not owe respect/tolerance to someones culture just because it's not my culture and
therefore I wouldn't understand it.

- Abortion and Marijuana should be legal.

- Death penalty should be legal (if you have murdered and/or raped someone, feeling bad and
sorry for it is not good enough)

on a more videogamey note:

- The Halo saga & Gears of War saga are absolutely great.

- I have not and do not plan to playing Mass Effect 1,2 or 3 for that matter.

- LoL is really boring.

- Nostalgia is bullshit.
 

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SamuelT said:
Sparrow said:
People with self-caused problems should not get free health care. If you drink/smoke/eat yourself into some kind of medical condition (liver failure, lung cancer, diabetes ect.) then that's your own damn fault and you should pay for your own fucking healthcare.

[small]Also, I don't think DA2 was that bad. Not good, just not that bad.[/small]
That opinion is wrong and you should feel bad.

OT: I don't think mentally handicapped people deserve my immediate sympathy and help. I'm not responsible for whatever they have going on.
Whats wrong with this? Granted it would have to apply after a certain date. E.g. Anyone who takes up smoking now shouldn't get free health care because its fucking obviouse that its bad for you. Our government gains $1b in revenue from tax on smokes but spends $5b on health care when the invevitable diseases and cancers come knocking on the door. (Figures are the Australian government and p.a.).
 

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If religion didn't exist, are you honestly going to tell me that people wouldn't have found a different reason or cause to do the horrible things others have done in the name of religion? While we're at it, let's get rid of the different races, hmm? People have been fighting because of different skin color just as long as they've been fighting because of different gods or philosophies.

If you believe religion shouldn't exist because of conflict in the world, then you also believe that people shouldn't form different governments, that people shouldn't be able to form their own ideas and opinions, and that anything unique about any individual shouldn't exist as well. For it is that people are different that there is conflict today. Ostracizing and getting rid of religion is utterly foolish and serves as yet another case that YOU hate what is different to YOU. YOU don't believe in a religion. YOU would have no qualms about ending its existence, because religion is different from what YOU believe.
Yes I'm honestly going to tell you that people wouldn't find a different cause. Obviously there are other reasons to do horrible things, like greed, but religion is still a major contributer in the "things to motivate people to do horrible things". Good luck convicing people to blow themselves up without religion twisting their thinking. If it wasn't for religion their survival instincts would have more of an impact, instead they're counting on salvation and rewards for their actions.

And how do I suddenly believe that people shouldn't form governments because I think the above? Or think freely? If anything by advocating that religion is a major cause of suffering in the world I'd be thinking more freely, as I'm not counting on the Sunday sermon to tell me what to think.

Do you know who launched the crusades? Pope Urban II.
What inspires todays terrorists? Relgion.
 

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Lim3 said:
SamuelT said:
Sparrow said:
People with self-caused problems should not get free health care. If you drink/smoke/eat yourself into some kind of medical condition (liver failure, lung cancer, diabetes ect.) then that's your own damn fault and you should pay for your own fucking healthcare.

[small]Also, I don't think DA2 was that bad. Not good, just not that bad.[/small]
That opinion is wrong and you should feel bad.

OT: I don't think mentally handicapped people deserve my immediate sympathy and help. I'm not responsible for whatever they have going on.
Whats wrong with this? Granted it would have to apply after a certain date. E.g. Anyone who takes up smoking now shouldn't get free health care because its fucking obviouse that its bad for you. Our government gains $1b in revenue from tax on smokes but spends $5b on health care when the invevitable diseases and cancers come knocking on the door. (Figures are the Australian government and p.a.).
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SamuelT said:
Relish in Chaos said:
He's got a point. People that binge-drink, smoke and/or over-eat due to lack of self-control should know of the potentially harmful side-effects it can cause, therefore why should we have to pay for their treatment and cause an even bigger drain on resources, when they could've just not done it in the first place and actually taken better fucking care of themselves? Why shouldn't they pay for their own damn health care?

Of course, that excludes those who suffer second-hand smoke, slow metabolisms and just happen to have diabetes through no fault of their own.

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I don't think incest before second cousins and incestuous marriage should be illegal, as long as you don't reproduce.

Bestiality is animal abuse, and I don't care what anyone says about it "not hurting the animal". It's still having sex with a living being against their will, therefore that's rape. Pure and simple. You could make the same argument that child molestation doesn't hurt the child if it doesn't know what's going on, but it'd be equally as retarded.
Oh, mate. Sorry, I kinda made that unclear. I was commenting on his DA2 thing. I agree with the former opinion, I'm just bashing his opinion on DA2.

It's a thing we do.
 

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-enjoys-thing-informed-he-is-wrong,7057/

That people, no matter who they are or what they believe in, are entitled to their own opinions.

Even if (I think) their opinions are misguided, hateful, and all-around stupid.

Which it seems has never been an idea shared by the populace, as everyone crawls up one another's ass about every little thing it seems.
 

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This one might get me killed but here goes... Firefly sucked and it deserved to be cancelled
 

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DrOswald said:
James Ennever said:
Ok, Where to start...
4 All people with ADHD should be taught better self control,and not just dosed up on ritalin and the only funding it should receive is thought the school system.
I don't know if this is actually how you meant it, but I am glad you said "not just" because medication for ADD and ADHD is a very good idea and is far more effective when used alongside therapy. I should know, I am ADD myself, and my parents were very careful about how my condition was treated. They used therapy alongside medication to give me the best chance of overcoming the disadvantage. They did it right. But I am telling you that the medication is a really good idea. Without that medication I probably wouldn't have made it through high school.

True ADD and ADHD is not something you can just will away. It is, at its root, a physical problem in the brain. Over years a person can learn to deal with it sometimes even overcoming the absolute need for medication, but that is very rare. And it's not like it goes away, they just learn to control it so it impacts their life as little as possible.

I do think over diagnosis and over medication is a problem but getting rid of medication completely, as I have seen many suggest, is just stupid. ADD and ADHD are not problems you can simply man up and deal with. That's like telling a person to man up and stop being diabetic. That is not how it works.
I agree with you entirely, That is why I did not say "do away with the medicine entirely".
In high school, All the ADD and adhd suffering kids when they broke any rules or were simply annoying the teachers, were sent to the principals office, given ritalin and then sent back to class, no lectures, just pills.
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Thes same should go for autism spetrum disorders.
 

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Lim3 said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
If religion didn't exist, are you honestly going to tell me that people wouldn't have found a different reason or cause to do the horrible things others have done in the name of religion? While we're at it, let's get rid of the different races, hmm? People have been fighting because of different skin color just as long as they've been fighting because of different gods or philosophies.

If you believe religion shouldn't exist because of conflict in the world, then you also believe that people shouldn't form different governments, that people shouldn't be able to form their own ideas and opinions, and that anything unique about any individual shouldn't exist as well. For it is that people are different that there is conflict today. Ostracizing and getting rid of religion is utterly foolish and serves as yet another case that YOU hate what is different to YOU. YOU don't believe in a religion. YOU would have no qualms about ending its existence, because religion is different from what YOU believe.
Yes I'm honestly going to tell you that people wouldn't find a different cause. Obviously there are other reasons to do horrible things, like greed, but religion is still a major contributer in the "things to motivate people to do horrible things". Good luck convicing people to blow themselves up without religion twisting their thinking. If it wasn't for religion their survival instincts would have more of an impact, instead they're counting on salvation and rewards for their actions.

And how do I suddenly believe that people shouldn't form governments because I think the above? Or think freely? If anything by advocating that religion is a major cause of suffering in the world I'd be thinking more freely, as I'm not counting on the Sunday sermon to tell me what to think.

Do you know who launched the crusades? Pope Urban II.
What inspires todays terrorists? Relgion.
All it takes is a strong enough ideal that one can get behind for a man to throw his life away in service to it.

Sometimes it takes the charismatic words of another. Sometimes it takes the social pressure of an organized majority. But it happens. With or without claiming a divine doctrine.

That isn't exclusive to religion. If you can't see that... Well, you already know what you represent to me.

Not that I think I've changed your mind. To me, this thread was about voicing opinions that are generally unpopular, not directly disputing others that disagree with your views. I know others have taken this thread and turned it into a place to argue with one another. I don't plan on doing that. Your view is completely illogical to me, as no doubt mine is completely illogical to you.

Your opinion has been heard. Let's be civil, and leave it at that.