ResonanceSD said:
Excellent. I'm sick of Bioware being painted as the "good guys" all the time. Face it.
They work closely with EA.
They released DA2.
How are they still receiving goodwill from gamers?
Okay remember when Square started releasing pretty much junk to the general public, some of the games were genuinely good (FFXII) while pretty much the rest (Dirge of Cerberus, XIII, XIV) we're filthy turds? Yeah it took a while for people to have the shoe drop and realize that no, the company they loved before was not the same.
Well it's the same for Bioware, except in this case there are two factors. The first is that EA throws it's money around a lot better than Square does, the second comes down to the people doing the reporting. They don't want to ADMIT that everything's gone to hell! I mean it got to the point where Penny-Arcade was legitimately calling Dragon Age 2 good, when even TIM BUCKLEY the talentless unfunny hack was getting his digs in! It's more than Brand Loyalty. By admitting that Bioware, for lack of a better term, sucks, they have to admit that their wont be anymore Baldurs Gate 2's or Knights of the Old Republic's, or even Dragon Age: Origins (For the record, I actually really liked DA:O, but more as "This was a good showing, now improve upon it" like the original Baldurs Gate to BG2)
But let's not kid ourselves. That Bioware is gone, the people are still there (well not all of them) but the talent? dead. The name has no value, stretched over to a bunch of liquidated studio's that EA hopes will garner praise because geeks have good will to Bioware.
When Black Isle dissolved and the people split up their spirit lived on. Bioware didn't dissolve, but their spirit is gone.
Brainst0rm said:
So, when you say "BioWare faces fraud accusations" you mean "BioWare faces anonymous whining on their forums". I realize article titles are supposed to grab attention, but there's a line between spin and deception, isn't there? A line which can be crossed?
This article in particular is not really deceptive. But it's something I am noticing on the Escapist. What the article title implies tends to be a bit distant from what the article is. Am I being clear? When I hear "fraud accusations" I think lawsuits, lawyers - official stuff. Not some helpless saps who don't know how to pick up a phone.
Brainstorm, out of curiosity I did pop into /v/ to see if they were "Whining" and guess what? they were laughing. Do you know what they talk about in those TOR threads? the mindless sheep who defend the game without thinking and without question, the fanboys of the fanboys.
I observed for 5 hours people watching the stock market rising and falling, while explaining to others how stocks worked, bringing up past data, and genuinely getting uproarious.
This whole situation reminds me of a wonderful quote really
KREIA said:
Perhaps you were expecting some surprise, for me to reveal a secret that had eluded you, something that would change your perspective of events, shatter you to your core. There is no great revelation, no great secret. There is only you
Let me alter that to this situation.
Perhaps you were expecting some great raid, for it to be revealed that /v/ had launched into some over complicated trolling campaign, bent on making Bioware and EA submit. But there is no raid, no great conspiracy, just a bunch of guys who find the poorly handled situation (Killing your own game with a patch while locking your forums, not to mention deleting negative posts inside threads so it looks like no one's complaining, and yes that's been monitored) people having legitimate trouble unsubscribing, and of course the Bioware Fanboys who are so in denial that they will close their eyes and scream "MOST INNOVATIVE MMO OF OUR TIME, THERE ARE NO FLAWS!") hilarious.