Yep. Said nothing to the contrary. My point is that they want to truck it out in tandem with the expansion so when people come back for it they're generating a new box sale as well.chikusho said:
Update: Diablo III's Loot 2.0 Breakdown - Less, Better, More Epic
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While you're probably right, I don't really see anything wrong in doing that.ticklefist said:
"Hey guys, look at this new cool free stuff! By the way, we're selling an expansion pack now too!"
It's just smart business, assuming that they haven't literally had this patch ready to go for a year and have been sitting on it until they were ready to release RoS
Great! They're finally fixing the loot system! Now, they just have to fix....
-PvP
-Cookie-cutter builds and no real feel of customization
-No real end-game content other than "same shit you played before, only now it kills you REALLY fast"
-Social aspects being awful (lack of anything out-of-game, lack of being able to name games, voice chat, or guild-support)
Get back to me once all that's resolved and then I might be interested in putting good money after bad. Till then, I think I've gotten everything I will out of D3.
-PvP
-Cookie-cutter builds and no real feel of customization
-No real end-game content other than "same shit you played before, only now it kills you REALLY fast"
-Social aspects being awful (lack of anything out-of-game, lack of being able to name games, voice chat, or guild-support)
Get back to me once all that's resolved and then I might be interested in putting good money after bad. Till then, I think I've gotten everything I will out of D3.
A lot of those things (like the skill trees and upgradeable skill runes) were taken out because they weren't working for the game. The pre-release logs talk about why. And the enchantress was always planned to be put in in the future.Lovely Mixture said:We can only wait and see how much of this will ring true.
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But at least people will be getting a more Diablo-esque experience.
Lovely Mixture said:We can only wait and see how much of this will ring true.
[http://imgur.com/TfoNygI]
But at least people will be getting a more Diablo-esque experience.
The Mystic (Karyna - the one you rescue from Queen Araenae's web in Act I) still has art, and most of the rest of this picture has a case - only four gems feels horribly stunted - but those parentheses cost this picture any right it might have had to exist. Seriously, WTF?that picture said:
More appropriate loot will be good, but best case scenario is that playing the game without the Ah will be 'possible'. The nature of the thing still means that it's always going to be faster, more practical, and way the fuck less fun to just hop over to the AH.Jandau said:
Hopefully at the very least the changes make it so a little less self control is needed to avoid the thing.
It's definitely a step in the right direction. The garbage loot drops and the auction house are what ruined the game for me. With these improved loot mechanics, if they also get rid of the auction house (as unlikely as that is), I will happily come running back to Diablo 3
"The basic philosophy [of loot 2.0] is we wanna make sure that playing the game is the most fun, the most rewarding way to get items."
I'm sorry but it seems a little fucked up that its taking 2 years from release to figure this out.
/tinfoil hat on
It seems like the RMAH isn't making much money these days. Now they're ready to make the game actually rewarding, after they've got all they can out of the suckers who bought gold/items.
Blizzard can just change some droprate numbers, patch in features and areas withheld from the original launch, and rake in some more cash.
On top of that, they have hearthstone. Another grind till you puke, or pay way more than $60 game.
If that wasn't enough, a cash shop for a sub mmo. Its ok cuz its vanity items right?!?
Blizzard is becoming zynga.
/tinfoil hat off
I've put a bit of time in diablo 3. Enough time. Better items won't change that fact. Too many other better games/things to do.
I'm sorry but it seems a little fucked up that its taking 2 years from release to figure this out.
/tinfoil hat on
It seems like the RMAH isn't making much money these days. Now they're ready to make the game actually rewarding, after they've got all they can out of the suckers who bought gold/items.
Blizzard can just change some droprate numbers, patch in features and areas withheld from the original launch, and rake in some more cash.
On top of that, they have hearthstone. Another grind till you puke, or pay way more than $60 game.
If that wasn't enough, a cash shop for a sub mmo. Its ok cuz its vanity items right?!?
Blizzard is becoming zynga.
/tinfoil hat off
I've put a bit of time in diablo 3. Enough time. Better items won't change that fact. Too many other better games/things to do.
Meh. They certainly seem like improvements, but the way it shipped and especially their initial patch cycles really showed that they didn't understand what game genre the Diablo series exists in, and I feel their further efforts will be hampered by being built on a terribly rocky foundation.
They've certainly salvaged some and built a better game with their patches, so maybe I'll try it eventually, but I don't really have much hope in that.
They've certainly salvaged some and built a better game with their patches, so maybe I'll try it eventually, but I don't really have much hope in that.
I'm confused what you mean by cookie-cutter builds. Is there one or two absolute "best" builds per class? Probably, but Blizzard usually fixes it so its not absolutely required (CM wizards have been nerfed almost every single patch for instance). However that doesn't mean other stuff isn't usable. I've been slowly gearin up a Spectral Blade Wizard since I hit 60 and while it does require a specific amount of gear, it works quite well (seen it in action at high MP levels as well, looks absolutely amazin).schmulki said:
Heck, I've even see a Witch Doctor effectively use Hex: Angry Chicken in mid range MP levels and that's considered to be the worst rune in the entire game (damage wise, awesome wise nothin beats turnin into a giant Chicken).
From the amount of research I've done on this, there's more viable builds in D3 than there ever were in D2 and they all play radically different.
You're implying that the free patch is a selling point for a paid expansion, which makes no sense.ticklefist said:
What does make sense is to include as many changes, fixes and added content in one major patch, to make the implementation and down-time as short, smooth and efficient as possible.
Considering the large amount of overhauls, fixes and added content that has been continuously patched in since the games release, the notion that they are withholding this as a selling point is rather unlikely.
If they really wanted to generate interest in the expansion, they would release it in advance so people can get back ito the game and experience the difference for themselves before they put money down.
The way they refer to "smart drops" largely implies that the prior situation involved an immense level of stupidity in order to put stat boosts that don't make sense on everything, which almost warrants adding "stupid" to the front of every job title in the company.
I mean, even TERRARIA figured this out.
I mean, even TERRARIA figured this out.
This has kind of had me laughing too, them coining the term 'smart drops' as if it's a new innovation for the game, a new feature that will make make everything better. And sure, maybe it will, but their trying to pass it off as an 'upgrade' when is a joke, when in reality it's more of a 'fix'.weirdguy said:
Alright, all good I think.
A bit confused as to how common items are more rare than anything but legendarys but okey.
Now what I want to know is this:
- Where is the PvP they promised?
- What about set items?
- Why couldn't they just use the soul/accountbind system that they used in WoW from the beginning? It's why the AH works in WoW...
A bit confused as to how common items are more rare than anything but legendarys but okey.
Now what I want to know is this:
- Where is the PvP they promised?
- What about set items?
- Why couldn't they just use the soul/accountbind system that they used in WoW from the beginning? It's why the AH works in WoW...
It all depends on how much the new expansion is. I like most of what they said but I liked what they said about D3 when it first came out so I will have to wait for it come out.