Update: Metal Gear Solid V Reveal Trailer Gets Surreal

[keiji_Maeda]

How can anyone take Snake seriously now? A dude with a rifle creeping about hiding and struggling to fight off a squad of soldiers if spotted cannot compare to Metal Gear Rising.

If one cyborg ninja can destroy platoons of troops and single handedly chop apart 50ft high battlemechs with ease how can one dude with a rifle ever be of use in that universe? Especially if he is the main Protagonist, Kojima raised the bar too high. Now Snake seems lame and underpowered now.

I have yet to play rising, but isn't it plcaed before MGS IV? and in the end Raiden (debatedly) got cut to pieces for relying on his "leet ninja skillz" while snake made it through the ordeal and ending vamp through his use of ingenuity and adaptability, and the nano machines that the quissling gave to him.

 

[MrBaskerville]

This seems promising, MGs3 and Peacewalker were my favourite games in the series, and my favourite part of the story, so a sequel to those games seems like a good idea.

 

[SillySam]

I'm more interested in the 'him' Miller referred to in the beginning
It appears to be the first person view of a someone lying on a stretcher/table

I don't think it's revealed in the trailer who he is, or even his relevance to the plot

 

[Milanezi]

I'm 100% lost here, but I like what I see!!! First point, I'm extremely intrigued by "it's been 9 years", meaning what?! When will the game take place? Are we controlling Big Boss (the eyepatch) again, if so he is young and this game is set in the past (which makes sense, after all his prosthetic isn't exactly high tech for MG standards...). I remember by the end of Metal Gear he got beaten pretty bad by Solid Snake, is that set between Metal Gear 1 & 2? OR is this set after Metal Gear SOLID (1) and this fellow is Liquid Snake (I know he should be blond), after all he did get one of his arms cut off (not sure which), but on the other hand he never had no bloody eyepatch... Or maybe (least likely in my opinion, I REALLY think it's Big Boss) it IS Solid Snake after a while and the eyepatch comes from a damage we're still to find out.
I'm amazed it'll be available for PS3 still, but extremely happy for it being also released for X360 since my PS3 broke and I figure now I'll wait for PS4...

 

[Marik2]

You had me at the flaming unicorn.

Becausae of MLP?

hur hur

 

[Vault Citizen]

Well now I just feel foolish for doubting that Phantom Pain was a MGS game when the first trailer came out.

Well if no one is gonna ask, I will.

Diamond Dogs....can we expect David Bowie to fight along side Snake?

That or he'll be the final boss... ..which come to think of it would be freaking damn cool.

Bowie would make an awesome Metal Gear boss.

If that happened I would instantly buy the game no questions asked.

 

[Baneat]

I'd love to give this game a run but it doesn't alone justify buying a PS4 to me

 

[Marik2]

I'm more interested in the 'him' Miller referred to in the beginning
It appears to be the first person view of a someone lying on a stretcher/table

I don't think it's revealed in the trailer who he is, or even his relevance to the plot

Possible spoilers

Spoiler

It might be chico from peacewalker since he was kidnapped and Big Boss was trying to rescue him. Something goes wrong with the mission and Chico will most likely die.

 

[Genericjim101]

Seriously? i thought anyone with two brain cells could see that was Solid snake in the Phantom pain trailer. Hell i did and i never even played a MGS game >_>

A less presumptuous person with more than two brain cells would know it was Big Boss, not Solid Snake XD

 

[anonymity88]

How can anyone take Snake seriously now? A dude with a rifle creeping about hiding and struggling to fight off a squad of soldiers if spotted cannot compare to Metal Gear Rising.

If one cyborg ninja can destroy platoons of troops and single handedly chop apart 50ft high battlemechs with ease how can one dude with a rifle ever be of use in that universe? Especially if he is the main Protagonist, Kojima raised the bar too high. Now Snake seems lame and underpowered now.

Good thing it's a prologue! But I see your point

 

[SillySam]

Spoiler

It might be chico from peacewalker since he was kidnapped and Big Boss was trying to rescue him. Something goes wrong with the mission and Chico will most likely die.

I came to the same conclusion, since the mission of Ground Zeroes was to rescue Paz, and what supposedly follows is Big Boss coming out of the coma
I just thought it weird as you only see Chico in the GZ trailer, and you don't see him in the helicopter in the MGS5 trailer
And I just thought it might be significant that they chose Chico's POV for that scene

Spoiler: speculations

Regarding the chronology of events in the trailers, I think it's
Big Boss infiltrating the base while XOF assaults mother base
BB returns with Chico to find mother base in ruins, tries to evacuate surviving members of MSF
Helicopter escapes with Miller (and Chico) onboard
Helicopter is attacked/accident happened
Clinic scene and Phantom Pain

This is the order of events with Chico I gathered from the trailer

The reason I think the person in the clinic isn't Chico is mainly because his lack of presence outside of the cage
And the fact that the 9-year coma was previously not mentioned in the canon, I think people would notice if BB doesn't show his face for 9 years, especially XOF would probably still be hunting remaining MSF members
Assuming previous canon holds, I was thinking the person had undergone surgery to make him look like BB and stood in for him

 

[Marik2]

I'd love to give this game a run but it doesn't alone justify buying a PS4 to me

It's going to be on the PS3 and 360, says at the end of the trailer

Still believe we really dont need a new console generation and the games still look good

Spoiler

It might be chico from peacewalker since he was kidnapped and Big Boss was trying to rescue him. Something goes wrong with the mission and Chico will most likely die.

I came to the same conclusion, since the mission of Ground Zeroes was to rescue Paz, and what supposedly follows is Big Boss coming out of the coma
I just thought it weird as you only see Chico in the GZ trailer, and you don't see him in the helicopter in the MGS5 trailer
And I just thought it might be significant that they chose Chico's POV for that scene

Spoiler: speculations

Regarding the chronology of events in the trailers, I think it's
Big Boss infiltrating the base while XOF assaults mother base
BB returns with Chico to find mother base in ruins, tries to evacuate surviving members of MSF
Helicopter escapes with Miller (and Chico) onboard
Helicopter is attacked/accident happened
Clinic scene and Phantom Pain

This is the order of events with Chico I gathered from the trailer

The reason I think the person in the clinic isn't Chico is mainly because his lack of presence outside of the cage
And the fact that the 9-year coma was previously not mentioned in the canon, I think people would notice if BB doesn't show his face for 9 years, especially XOF would probably still be hunting remaining MSF members
Assuming previous canon holds, I was thinking the person had undergone surgery to make him look like BB and stood in for him

In regards to the coma thing(I just beat mgs1), it was mentioned

Spoiler: speculations

I'm guessing that is where the lost arm comes in. Since Solidus is a perfect clone of Big Boss and he could fill for him or something.

Who knows, since Kojima loves to troll

 

[SillySam]

In regards to the coma thing(I just beat mgs1), it was mentioned

Spoiler: speculations

I'm guessing that is where the lost arm comes in. Since Solidus is a perfect clone of Big Boss and he could fill for him or something.

Who knows, since Kojima loves to troll

I meant the '9-year coma' wasn't mentioned before
The cloning project was done because Big Boss was in a coma
Which puts that particular coma before Solid Snake was born, which is in 1972
Since Peace Walker happened in 1974 and MGS5 would probably happen after that, this seems like a different coma

Or just a retcon so all the Snakes are at least 2 years younger
Yay?

 

[Marik2]

In regards to the coma thing(I just beat mgs1), it was mentioned

Spoiler: speculations

I'm guessing that is where the lost arm comes in. Since Solidus is a perfect clone of Big Boss and he could fill for him or something.

Who knows, since Kojima loves to troll

I meant the '9-year coma' wasn't mentioned before
The cloning project was done because Big Boss was in a coma
Which puts that particular coma before Solid Snake was born, which is in 1972
Since Peace Walker happened in 1974 and MGS5 would probably happen after that, this seems like a different coma

Or just a retcon so all the Snakes are at least 2 years younger
Yay?

Well the coma thing was left opened and just said "It was during the 1970s". Yeah Kojima is going to retcon the date of Solid and Liquid being born.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Anyone else think that doctor was Kio Marv?

 

[Kazedarkwind]

Seriously? i thought anyone with two brain cells could see that was Solid snake in the Phantom pain trailer. Hell i did and i never even played a MGS game >_>

A less presumptuous person with more than two brain cells would know it was Big Boss, not Solid Snake XD

guess ya missed the part of my post that says "i never even played a MGS game" >.>

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

Well, it could possibly be a retcon. Solid and liquid were born in 1972 and MGSW happens in 1974. Since the events in Ground Zero happen 10 days after PW its safe to assume that it too happens in 1974. Having the birth dates changed by two years would not be such a bad thing. Also, I don't think PW ever mentioned Big Boss ending up in a Coma.

Well that'd be a pretty big retcon considering it was Big Boss' discovery of the Les Enfant Terribles project that made him leave the patriots and go form MSF in Peace Walker.

 

[Genericjim101]

Bloody reply system, replied to the wrong post.

 

[Genericjim101]

Seriously? i thought anyone with two brain cells could see that was Solid snake in the Phantom pain trailer. Hell i did and i never even played a MGS game >_>

A less presumptuous person with more than two brain cells would know it was Big Boss, not Solid Snake XD

guess ya missed the part of my post that says "i never even played a MGS game" >.>

No, I got that part. But you were saying anyone could figure it out, but what you figured out was wrong anyway. Regardless of owning more than two braincells.

 

[aba1]

Kojima has just revealed this ain't rock and roll...This is genocide!

The fuck did I just watch? That wasn't so much a teaser trailer as it was an acid dream that takes place in a hospital.

In fact, the internet seems to largely be ignoring the possibility of a "dream state." Maybe it's just because I don't give a crap about Kojima and therefore don't know something glaringly obvious, but a lot of the "supernatural" elements seem easily explained by some sort of wild dream, forced or otherwise, as the result of the coma. The Fox vs XOF imagery could also fit in, because dream states are often treated as having mirror-like qualities.

I don't discount it at all. However, I'm confused. Wasn't Snake supposed to have a bad case of the dead? How did he get his life extended by 9 years? Is that Snake, or a clone, or his evil brother Blake?

I'm not a fan of trailers like this. Prerendered aside, they have a music overlay to block critical material. It doesn't tell us anything other than "Hey, new MGS. Its still bat shit crazy. This time with Horsemen of the apocolypse."

1. That is not Snake that is Big Boss the guy Snake was cloned from.
2. Trailer was not per-rendered these are all the same graphics the game play will be in other trailers have shown this plus some of the footage was game play already.
3. This trailer tells us a insane amount of things I could write a whole page worth of things it tells.