[UPDATE] PSN Password Reset Vulnerable to Exploit

[loogie]

All this hacking kinda makes me wonder what other companies are learning from this whole Sony situation. It would be very unwise for companies like Microsoft and Blizzard to not learn from all this.

Why do people do things like this, "just cause"... "2."

See this is why we can't have nice things on the internet.

Microsoft? Blizzard?

I'd be happy with Sony learning something from this mess... which they've yet to do.

 

[loogie]

Even though I don't own a PS3 myself I'm getting sick of this

Cant the hackers leave Sony alone and let gamers get back to what they love

What are you talking about? Hackers didn't do this. Sony basically left the door wide open for hackers to steal your info.. AGAIN.. People aren't claiming that hackers have done it, someone has just pointed out that fact...

 

[Martster]

Even though I don't own a PS3 myself I'm getting sick of this

Cant the hackers leave Sony alone and let gamers get back to what they love

What are you talking about? Hackers didn't do this. Sony basically left the door wide open for hackers to steal your info.. AGAIN.. People aren't claiming that hackers have done it, someone has just pointed out that fact...

Sorry seems I've misread what's happening here. Still when will the bad luck end for sony

 

[Optimystic]

I cannot facepalm hard enough. Is Sony's security group staffed with interns or something?

The fact that these faceless white-hat hackers can find all these holes means Sony should be able to as well.

 

[tzimize]

So. I'm not quite getting this. Its bad publicity, yes. Particularly bad after the PSN hack. And I dont like the thought of my credic card info being where its not supposed to. But my PSN account?

Er...what could they possibly accomplish by stealing my PSN account? Could anyone paint me a worst case scenario and quote me? Because I cant really see what the horror of this is. Or is it just standardly blown out of proportion?

 

[Lucane]

Why was there even a website password reset option in the first place.

I mean you'd need update your PS3 anyways and the 1st thing it asks for afterwards is a new password that could only be done from a system that already had a valid log-in or so I've read Doing so elsewhere on the net seems like the hard way to do it.

 

[Trogdor1138]

I love it when people don't even bother to read articles before commenting...

Anyways, I updated my password etc. through my PS3, no troubles.

 

[Lucane]

So. I'm not quite getting this. Its bad publicity, yes. Particularly bad after the PSN hack. And I dont like the thought of my credic card info being where its not supposed to. But my PSN account?

Er...what could they possibly accomplish by stealing my PSN account? Could anyone paint me a worst case scenario and quote me? Because I cant really see what the horror of this is. Or is it just standardly blown out of proportion?

They get your account take a system link(of which you can only have five of without requesting a reset)change the password and then proceed to buy a ton of new games on it and then either keep it or sell the loaded system with your info on it.

Overall losing you your PSN identity money(even if your card covers/removes the charge for theft they likely won't help replace the lost currency replacing games you personally bought on the stolen account which becomes invalid without a valid PSN password for the user being on the system.)and losing your friends list or at the very least having to re-send all the friend request and explaining your new persona as the former *****,profiles of online only saves (Like Warhawk,MAG, or P.S. Home)and losing of trophies if you're into them.

 

[Mxrz]

Sony is going to become the most secure motherfuckers on the planets at this rate. - The site change was for people who didn't have their original PS3s any more for whatever reasons. And all my local walmarts still sell PS2s the last time I looked. Gamestop has a couple as well.

 

[loogie]

Sony is going to become the most secure motherfuckers on the planets at this rate. - The site change was for people who didn't have their original PS3s any more for whatever reasons. And all my local walmarts still sell PS2s the last time I looked. Gamestop has a couple as well.

At this rate? At this rate they may compare to everyone elses security in 2 or 3 years... and other companies security isn't anything special.

 

[Traun]

Glad I just did it on my PS3. Kind of sad these hackers have nothing better to do, at this point Sony should just give them Linux so they can show people just wanted to get free games not another OS."

You know what would be fun? If they did that and the people who have been pestering them stop doing that and explain, anonymously, where the system vulnerabilities are and how Sony can protect itself better. But that won't happen, why? Because Sony are douchbags...

Oh sure, you can feel sorry for them now, but they'll be updating their systemware, removing features and putting DRM up your *** in no time.

 

[fundayz]

Sony's incompetence is baffling.

First they get hacked due to bad security systems and outdated Apache server then they f*** up the password reset site?

Seriously?

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Even though I don't own a PS3 myself I'm getting sick of this

Cant the hackers leave Sony alone and let gamers get back to what they love

What are you talking about? Hackers didn't do this. Sony basically left the door wide open for hackers to steal your info.. AGAIN.. People aren't claiming that hackers have done it, someone has just pointed out that fact...

What? You are acting like Sony didn't have firewalls and protection. The hackers...hackedinto the PSN. Don't try and act as if its Sony's fault hackers HACKED into te system.

Scond of all like Sony clarified they say a glitch inthe online site that resets passowrds and took it down to fix it.

 

[gphjr14]

You are right, when they say "It only does games" people will expect that.. Just as when they say "it does other things" they should expect it to do other things, I don't recall them stating "It'll do other things, for awhile anyways... then we're going to stop allowing you to do that"

Read the fine print of the user agreement. They were within their right to remove a featured that was used for piracy. Doesn't matter anyways they've figured it out now so they can't really prevent it.

this isn't a legal issue, they promoted their product to do things other then just games, then they removed that very concept, just because it's legal for them to do so, doesn't mean we shouldn't expect more.

What you want and expect and what actually happens can be very different things as is the case here. Its life.

 

[Vigilantis]

What ticks me off is that it wont let me change my password over the PS3 so I have to go through the PC route to get myelf back on PSN. However as stated on their blog that it may take a day to get an email, it arrived today but sadly the link cannot be used because their services are down now. Sony cant catch a break and neither can I =(

 

[pokepuke]

this isn't a legal issue, they promoted their product to do things other then just games, then they removed that very concept, just because it's legal for them to do so, doesn't mean we shouldn't expect more.

What you want and expect and what actually happens can be very different things as is the case here. Its life.

No shit, Sherlock. And Sony is learning that the hard way. Looks like being dicks and pissing off customers wasn't the best idea.
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What? You are acting like Sony didn't have firewalls and protection. The hackers...hackedinto the PSN. Don't try and act as if its Sony's fault hackers HACKED into te system.

So it isn't Sony's fault for not having the proper dedicated staff for security? It's not their fault for having outdated server software?

It isn't like the movie The Invention of Lying and suddenly this previously impossible situation had started to occur that no one could foresee. A huge tech corporation with tons of online business should definitely know better.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

this isn't a legal issue, they promoted their product to do things other then just games, then they removed that very concept, just because it's legal for them to do so, doesn't mean we shouldn't expect more.

What you want and expect and what actually happens can be very different things as is the case here. Its life.

No shit, Sherlock. And Sony is learning that the hard way. Looks like being dicks and pissing off customers wasn't the best idea.
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What? You are acting like Sony didn't have firewalls and protection. The hackers...hackedinto the PSN. Don't try and act as if its Sony's fault hackers HACKED into te system.

So it isn't Sony's fault for not having the proper dedicated staff for security? It's not their fault for having outdated server software?

It isn't like the movie The Invention of Lying and suddenly this previously impossible situation had started to occur that no one could foresee. A huge tech corporation with tons of online business should definitely know better.

They do. That's why they shut down PSN as soon as they detected the intrusion and fixed the holes. I love how you are trying to pretend every network is 100% hackproof except for Sony's lol.

Also, your source that the servers were outdated were proven wrong. It was all speculation by the media.

So no, its not Sony's fault that criminals attacked them. They don't live everyday expecting a huge hack like this to occur. You trying to act like they left their doors oopen is laughable.

 

[gphjr14]

No shit, Sherlock. And Sony is learning that the hard way. Looks like being dicks and pissing off customers wasn't the best idea.
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You really need to calm down kid its not that serious and your last sentence applies more to the hackers than SONY since most people didn't really give a damn about Linux on PS3. Those that made the biggest deal out of it were the ones who wanted to play ripped games online, which I believe is still possible but its more of a hassle. Those who really wanted Linux just bought a damn computer.

 

[pokepuke]

So no, its not Sony's fault that criminals attacked them. They don't live everyday expecting a huge hack like this to occur. You trying to act like they left their doors oopen is laughable.

So basically you have no clue about the fundamentals of network security.
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You really need to calm down kid its not that serious and

You really need to learn how to write properly.

your last sentence applies more to the hackers than SONY since most people didn't really give a damn about Linux on PS3.

Non-sequitur.

Those that made the biggest deal out of it were the ones who wanted to play ripped games online, which I believe is still possible but its more of a hassle.

That doesn't make any sense at all. Seems like you don't understand the subject matter you are trying to discuss.

Those who really wanted Linux just bought a damn computer.

Why would it be about using Linux? No one was buying a PS3 just to run Linux. It seems fairly obvious that the intentions were running a full-featured OS on the PS3 system. I imagine it would be fairly difficult to run an OS on the PS3 by using a regular computer.

 

[gphjr14]

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* You really need to learn how to read more carefully.
* Your last sentence applies more to the hackers that were DOSing PSN and other attacks.
* You seem to be unaware of the whole geohot, homebrewing, hacking situation and really need to educate YOURSELF before you try and discuss the topic.
* See previous point.

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