Update: Reddit Suicide Lawsuit Is a Hoax
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You're saying domestic violence is a one way street, I'm saying it can go either way.Revolutionaryloser said:
"Domestic violence is defined as a pattern of abusive behaviors by one partner against another in an intimate relationship such as marriage, dating, family, or cohabitation."Revolutionaryloser said:
I fail to see how wives attacking husbands is different than husbands attacking wives.
Domestic violence is domestic violence bro, gender isn't a factor.
Say who, you?Baldr said:
Now I will gladly help someone in need but that is my choice to do so, NOT because of some law and most certainly not because of someone on a forum said so. If I was REQUIRED to be responsible for some stranger that can't take of themselves or be locked up for it then toss me in a cell and throw away the key because there's no way in hell I would do anything of the sort by force. In the end everyone's primary responsibility is to themselves and their loved ones, if they can help someone else out then wonderful but no they are not required by law to do so.
Oh, so this was like the time a guy named John Romero was killed and someone combined the news report and a bloody Hallowe'en photo of "the" John Romero and posted it on a gaming news site. (It was a week that Romero was on vacation and off the grid too, so it had legs for quite some time.)Greg Tito said:
First, as exemplified by this very thread, professionals can differ in opinion. Some lawyers think it's a crime to goad someone to suicide, some don't and I'm sure there are just as educated people in psychology who would disagree that words can cause harm against our will. News and studies dosn't make something fact, that's why we have laws and theories.TheKasp said:The thing is: Words do harm. It is not physical but phsychological. Of course there are several layers to that subject. Does normal namecalling affect you as an adult? No, not unless you already have psychological problems. But verbal abuse is existant and nothing to be surprised of. Even if you think that you have a thick skin there are plenty of people who can use only words to break you down and change you.Hammartroll said:
But if you want to discuss this: It'll boil down to me knowing stuff only from friends who study / work in this field and what I saw them do to people out of fun. I am basically not qualified for a deep discussion in that field. But do I need to be? Such news pop up at least every month, people get affected by "words on the interwebz" and then there are always people who, whatever is the background, will bring up this saying. Do we need more proof than psychological studies and all this news to finally realise that "words do harm" should finally be part of common sense?
What I mean with not tolerate: First one, I'm not a brony. I like the show but I can't say that I am a part of the fandom.
Second: I find that anonymity has caused us to accept jerkish behaviour a little too much. We make fun of those guys who yell racist and sexist shit at xbla but why are they there? Because we seem to accept that. "Don't feed the troll", "this is how the internet works" and all that stuff are excuses for us to do jack. Call them out, in the internet and in RL if you know someone who behaves like that. I know that I do that. I stopped playing anything in MP with friends of mine because they want to play with this one guy who starts flaming whenever he is about to lose.
What about changing your belief? Belief dosn't have to be fact, it's only perception.
Let's take the Pavlov's dogs experiment; what if you had a person listen to a tape recording of a hateful thing that makes that person feel bad over and over again, but after every time he listens to it he eats a piece of candy. Even if you don't eat that candy in a real life situation, you've conditioned yourself to have a happy outlook to hearing that. And you only need tricks like this until you get good at it, then you can make anything you don't like be nothing more than water off a duck's back.
You can perceive something to be a bad thing, and then you can choose to not. Some people aren't aware that they have the power to make a positive change in their own life, which is why we need to help others imo. Psychologists today don't use techniques like this anymore, they just give you a pill. Happiness determined by a companie's product, what a brave future.
And as far as putting the government in power of deciding what words are harmful in order to take care of us (not that your saying this but other people are) I've learned the hard way that the government, as it stands, does not have our best wishes at heart. We can only help eachother.
because people are short sighted emotional creatures, the kind of people Fox news preys onrenegade7 said:
In my judgement there's a difference between giving someone a reason to kill themselves and telling them to kill themselves, or bulling that person into it. Whereas for instance asking someone for the money they owe you has no foreseeable correlation to them committing suicide (from the perspective of the bank), the correlation between urging someone to commit suicide and them then doing it is very strong. Of course these are very extreme examples and eventually it comes down to the courts to sort out the grey areas.Tubez said:
This is the problem with the internet. With no discernible facial features it can be very hard to decipher a person's tone from a message. So for that reason it might be a good idea to assume that my tone was neutral, which it was.McMullen said:
But because you incorrectly assumed that I was outraged, you called my judgement clouded on the basis of an unfounded statement, which I have taken offence to. I will therefore not be continuing this discussion with you, but if you're genuinely interested in me expanding my ideas on this subject, I aim your attention to the post above me.