You're still not getting this: you're describing gay rights movements as pride movements. You're looking at the collective efforts of gay rights proponents as if Pride encompasses all of it, but it was a specific type of person in a specific subculture that declared pride was their slogan.
No, I'm not. We've looked at the specific events that grew into Pride, the specific people who coined and popularised the term, and the modern incarnation that is expressly called Pride. Absolutely none of which reflects your characterisation.
And that was formulated by the same radicals who were using those other terms.
A few of them, sure, who wanted to moderate and soften the message. It was understood as the less combative, less assertive alternative. "Pride" being understood as something everyone has: in their country, in their family, in their diligence or hard work or history; an antidote to shame.
You were right until the last part. It is an argument with wide appeal, but that appeal is to people's lowest instincts.
"Refuse to answer honestly"? So you're assuming that those straight people could choose to be attracted to the same sex, and are just lying to save face?
Dude, if pride prompts you to feel hatred towards others, that says more about you than about the feeling of pride. Rational, even-headed, kind people are capable of feeling proud without hatred.
Wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. Petty bitches will always be petty bitches. Especially with other petty bitches. Nothing more and much less as we've seen for years now. Male or female.
Few people like olives the first time they try one. Even fewer would never like olives if they were eating them regularly. You can make the conscious decision to develop a taste for something.
There are many positive feelings that don't punish or condemn others. Joy, gratitude, excitement, hope...
And do you genuinely and honestly believe that's how heterosexuality and homosexuality tend to arise in people? Through those people repeatedly forcing themselves to have sex with people they feel no prior attraction to, until it just... develops?
Nope. Healthy pride doesn't prompt someone to condemn others. Millions of proud parents aren't condemning other parents for being inferior. Proud gay people are not condemning anyone who isn't gay. You keep repeating that's what it means, but the people actually involved simply aren't engaging in the behaviour you insist they must.
I don't condemn you for your disagreement on the meaning of a word. I've condemned you for your prejudice, and your arrogant dismissal of others' lived experience.
She's not, though. She merely seems sane in the same way that a stopped clock is right two times a day.
No, not usually. Most people stick with their first instinct. Most people who don't like olives just stick with not liking olives. That doesn't mean that they can't like olives.
Of course they are. People who say black pride look down on white people. People who say white pride look down on black people. People who take pride in their favorite sports team look down on their rivals. So on and so forth.
Protip: your obstinacy is not an objective measure of someone else's reasonability.
Why? So you can just ad hominem them if you don't like them:
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Ahem (#6264, my bold):
Have you considered setting aside your own ego?
My target is not homosexuality. My target is pride, that is what I'm taking issue with. Which I have been very clear is neither specific to nor inherently part of homosexuality.
Well, not your target apart from all the other criticism you've made of homosexuals and homosexuality.
Ok. And where are you deriving this theory from? That it's possible to brute-force change one's sexuality through exposure? Surely not from the abject failure of "conversion therapy".
You can insist this is always the case, all you like. All you have is your personal definition of that one word, at odds with how others use and understand it, and how its defined. You've failed to point to anything to substantiate this bizarre interpretation of other peoples' thought processes. It remains narrow-minded, poor faith speculation.
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We can criticize people's choices of communication regardless of what they are thinking. If somebody flies a confederate flag and truly believe it's about live and comfort in their identity, you can still criticize them for what that symbol historically represents. It doesn't matter if they have the same understanding.
If you're asking me to use my own words, I would disregard the idea of discrete sexualities altogether. It's just adding an interest. All of the weird sex stuff people like on the internet operate this way. People are exposed to something and start to like it, it's not that complex. The abject failures you refer to all lie in attempting the opposite, to get people to hate what they once enjoyed.
Do you dispute really dispute it? Do you not look at all the ways people draw tribal boundaries between "us" and "them" and recognize the pride they feel?
Comey is living in another era, the era of Obama, Clinton, and Reagan. He has a hero complex. Which is sad since I like him as a person, I just think Trump outplayed him.Seems the case against Comey got dropped. That's a shame. If the US falls and if they drag Europe down with them then the least they could have done is also drag down the rat that helped get us here to begin with.
Judge dismisses cases against James Comey and Letitia James
A judge rules the US attorney, who brought the case against Trump's political foes, was improperly appointed.
Im fine with this if your targetting all pride things, not just homosexual one
