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Is not misinterpreting a law and making a law that is unconstitutional extremely similar? Making an unconstitutional law is you misinterpreting the constitution.
Presuming they actually did "misinterpret". Of course, Trump did no such thing: he relied on a century-old law that clearly didn't apply, and then ignored the court order demanding he stop.

The rest is hallucinatory bollocks.
 

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Well, that settles it then. I am convinced.
"I have to listen to the fake news talk about 'affordability. Affordability.' Do you notice, what word haven't you heard over the last two weeks? Affordability."

I know it's easy to find fault with Trump, but he has to listen to fake news talk about a word he's not heard recently.
 

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Trump has offered to send a hospital ship to Greenland, which has no need of a hospital ship, and also both of the US Navy's hospital ships are in drydock.


This is likely in response to the fact that Denmark performed a medivac for an American sailor from a submarine, and since Trump knows that every medical system that isn't America's consists of voodoo and human sacrifice, he thinks that everyone wants American medical service.
 

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There was never a time people were forced to get vaccinated for something they already had.
Rabies. The treatment protocol is wound care, a dose of HRIG if you've never been vaccinated and a four dose vaccine series. Because it moves through the body so slowly, vaccine administered after exposure is an effective treatment, allowing the immune system to rally more effectively with the HRIG jump-starting the process. This is also the reason the HRIG dose is not administered in the same body part as the first vaccine dose - the vaccine trains the body to produce HRIG so it's more effective to inject the initial bolus of antibodies somewhere other than where the vaccine is injected.

If AI is a bubble and it pops...
AI is a bubble and it will pop. It's like any bubble centered around some new tech that's obviously transformative but no one is exactly sure what it will be practical to use for and people are willing to invest startling sums to throw it at the wall and see what sticks (see the Internet back when). It'll pop, pieces will be picked up and in a decade from then we'll all be using AI in whatever forms ended up being useful on a routine basis and not thinking too hard about the rest. Presuming tensors end up being the right construct and aren't replaced by something else entirely, there's a non-zero chance that every device that AI is considered useful for will have a TPU and storage for a local model included rather than requiring being internet connected to access AI.

I suspect it's going to see lots of use in the medical/biotech fields in particular - specifically I could see an ML system rapidly outpacing human ability at diagnosing disease from medical imaging given several ten thousands of images and diagnoses to train from. Wouldn't trust it wholly (especially not at first), but as a pre-processor setting priority levels for specific imaging results (as in these look normal mark them low priority, that one sets of cancer alarm bells mark it urgent), even going so far as to tag with what it thinks is wrong and where to be checked by an actual doctor who can do actual further tests if warranted I could see it improving patient outcomes. We've already got one that can predict protein folding.

he thinks that everyone wants American medical service.
Hey now, we have some of the best healthcare in the world if you can afford it, and healthcare stats that make it absolutely clear how few can.
 
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Presuming they actually did "misinterpret". Of course, Trump did no such thing: he relied on a century-old law that clearly didn't apply, and then ignored the court order demanding he stop.

The rest is hallucinatory bollocks.
He didn't ignore the order, the fact that DHS is not still just sending people out of the country immediately and had to build camps literally proves that.
 

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He didn't ignore the order, the fact that DHS is not still just sending people out of the country immediately and had to build camps literally proves that.
He rushed the deportations overnight for the obvious purpose of bypassing judicial review and the right to challenge. He received an order to immediately halt the flights before they'd reached their destination (and IIRC before one had even left American soil). It was not followed. Then he gloated about how it had been done.

If you or I commit a crime, do you think it's a sufficient excuse to say, "as soon as the court told me it was illegal, I didn't do it again, so therefore I never broke the law!"
 

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It was not followed.

If you or I commit a crime, do you think it's a sufficient excuse to say, "as soon as the court told me it was illegal, I didn't do it again, so therefore I never broke the law!"
You have no proof of that.

Again, politicians that pass unconstitutional laws receive no punishment. Even judges that make super obviously bad rulings receive no punishment.
 

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You have no proof of that.
In fact, we do have proof of it. The planes did not return to the US as ordered, and the one that hadn't yet left proceeded to leave.

Again, politicians that pass unconstitutional laws receive no punishment. Even judges that make super obviously bad rulings receive no punishment.
Yep. Not sure what your point is, here. Is it just that since politicians don't get punished for illegal actions, therefore their actions are all fine?

Huh, i guess all those lockdowns and such that you consider illegal/unconstitutional were all fine too, then! They didn't continue doing so after a court order, and they didn't get punished, so whatever they did was fine after all! Just a lil' minterpretation!
 

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doesn't make The Democrats the good guys. They'll throw your ass under the bus too if they believe that you getting run over will help them win.
I'm no longer convinced that they think it will help them win. I think they may just want their voters to think that bigotry is a winner in order to filter out candidates of principle as 'unserious'.
 

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Your reminder that just because Republicans are the bad guys...


doesn't make The Democrats the good guys. They'll throw your ass under the bus too if they believe that you getting run over will help them win.
Nobody cares about identity politics, this is one of those 80(against)/20(for) issues that the democrats keeping staying in the 20% for no reason.
 

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Nobody cares about identity politics, this is one of those 80(against)/20(for) issues that the democrats keeping staying in the 20% for no reason.
Because they're so spineless that they allowed Republicans to completely hijack the conversation. Republicans made it this huge culture war while Democrats sat back and did nothing.

But even if that's not the case, we'd never have gotten shit like Equal Rights for Minorities or Women Voting if all politicians waited until doing the right thing was popular. Once you start picking and choosing who gets rights, it's only a matter of time before a group you actually do care about gets put on the chopping block because they're not big enough to matter.
 

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Republicans made it this huge culture war while Democrats sat back and did nothing.
I don't think that's true.

The "culture war" is really just a fashionable framing for a very long-running dispute about whether its okay to disciminate against and abuse various minority demographics. The current phase is really just a particularly determined counter-attack by the right to reassert traditional privileges and prejudices. However, the US left and Democrats were obviously fighting and winning this contest until relatively recently.

The Democrats appear to have lost a substantial chunk of support in key areas of the population which is much of their current woes. This is I suspect more about failing to deliver for the working classes economically than anything to do with identity politics. But it also means that fighting a war on identity politics isn't going to convince the voters they need. Of course, Gavin Newsom is obviously no fucking use either: he's as obviously a "business as usual" shill for billionaires as you could hope to find.
 
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Yes, but you likely have cause and effect on that reversed.
Are you saying politicians are pushing policies that trans people end up supporting rather than trans people pushing policies that politicians end up supporting? I don't follow.