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"We can't stop Iran from blockading the Strait... so let's pretend we're doing the blockade instead!"


Trump is an imbecile and so is everyone who supports him.
I’m starting my own blockade and it will have blackjack and hookers!

But yeah that’s really stupid
 

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It seems that the intent (if it's not merely a tantrum) is to stop Iran from taking a toll from non-US aligned ships that are allowed to travel. Which is yet another good way to anger the entire world.
 

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"We can't stop Iran from blockading the Strait... so let's pretend we're doing the blockade instead!"


Trump is an imbecile and so is everyone who supports him.
It's the only card they have to play right now to put pressure on Iran short of putting troops on the ground.

Right now American allies can't get oil through the strait, but Iran's allies like China can. Iran has money and regional power as long as they have full control of the strait. The US can take that away from them by closing the strait completely instead of a partial closure like what Iran currently has going on.

This will make the global problem even worse, but it puts a little bit of power back into the US's hands as China now has a reason to put pressure on Iran.

I think it's a miscalculation though, because Iran is much more willing to cause world-wide economic devastation than the US is, and they know it.

Trump doesn't have any idea about how to get out of this though, and it's a stupid war to begin with, so now he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and it's making him look weak and ridiculous.
 

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Loving it. The Resurrection of John McAfee by the Christ Trump. The MAGAzord flanked by patriotic US soldiers descending from the Heavens is a nice touch.
I'm surprised they still allowed the statue of liberty to be in the picture.
 
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Agema

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Right now American allies can't get oil through the strait, but Iran's allies like China can. Iran has money and regional power as long as they have full control of the strait. The US can take that away from them by closing the strait completely instead of a partial closure like what Iran currently has going on.
Yes and no.

Iran's base strategy is to deny access. It's letting a handful through, but in practice this is a trivial amount. Nor does it necessarily benefit those countries receiving the oil exclusively. The oil price is set by global supply and demand, so it likely just shifts the global supply and demand a tiny bit for everyone. The income for Iran is likewise tiny. So Iran setting up a tollbooth looks to me more like Iran cocking a snook at the USA than a serious tactic for money or oil supply to its allies.

Therefore I don't think Iran's going to care that much, or make much difference to the bigger picture, if the USA blocks it fully. Inasmuch as its a card, it's the war's feeblest card thus far. Albeit a better card than ground invasion (!) or war crimes (!!).

However, it can be presented to the US public as their government doing something seemingly strong to pressure Iran, mostly I suspect to let the clock tick by a while until a new negotiation round.
 

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Loving it. The Resurrection of Jeffrey Epstein by the Christ Trump. The MAGAzord flanked by patriotic US soldiers descending from the Heavens is a nice touch.
The social media damage control for this is to argue it's a reference to the whole casting out devils and laying hands on the sick to heal them that followers of Jesus are granted power to do according to the Bible. My first thought is that if we're going that route maybe we should ask Trump to take up serpents and drink poison as proof of his faith?
 
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Agema

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The social media damage control for this is to argue it's a reference to the whole casting out devils and laying hands on the sick to heal them that followers of Jesus are granted power to do according to the Bible. My first thought is that if we're going that route maybe we should ask Trump to take up serpents and drink poison as proof of his faith?
I'm just glad to see we finally have an idea of what Trump's plan is to reform US healthcare.
 

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I'm just glad to see we finally have an idea of what Trump's plan is to reform US healthcare.
Trump's strategy was 'Let God deal with it'. If you died, God declared you deserved it. Trump is rich and healthy, which means he does deserve it

This was the exact approach to COVID. See also anti-vaxxers. Vaccines are an unnatural, ungodly process that let people circumvent God's plan
 
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Trump's strategy was 'Let God deal with it'. If you died, God declared you deserved it. Trump is rich and healthy, which means he does deserve it
Prosperity gospel.
 

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Trump's strategy was 'Let God deal with it'. If you died, God declared you deserved it. Trump is rich and healthy, which means he does deserve it
We're talking about people who, when told the phrase "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven", will attempt to redefine "camel" and "eye of a needle".
 

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Pro - No fear of president JD Vance right now in the short to medium term.

Con - Fear of Tucker Carlson taking over the republican party like Trump.

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Also to DC you take him, you keep him. We are not suffering governor JD Vance.
 

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I’m starting my own blockade and it will have blackjack and hookers!

But yeah that’s really stupid
Great let's free Iran by making sure their children don't get baby formula. What could go wrong?
 

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Louis Prevost gonna wake up MAGA Pope one day, Great Schism style.
What the ever loving fuck does the Pope have to do with the proliferation of nuclear weapons? Last I checked most of the governments we object to having them aren’t ones who give a shit what he thinks.
 
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Agema

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For couch priorities?
I was thinking more resigning due scandal / incompetence / inevitable defeat. And mostly in his case inevitable defeat: an uncharismatic person who has served as VP in an adminsitration few like or admire? See 2024.