US Senator: Preserving Videogame History Wastes Money
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As much as I am a great fan of video games and the history of them, from conception to development, success and failures, I don't feel this is an appropriate use for tax payer dollars.
$113,000 can easily be found through private donations. Hell just throw a placard on the wall for people who donated over $100 or something and a placard thanking everyone else who made donations.
As for $113,000 being a "drop in the bucket", the drops add up really quick.
$113,000 can easily be found through private donations. Hell just throw a placard on the wall for people who donated over $100 or something and a placard thanking everyone else who made donations.
As for $113,000 being a "drop in the bucket", the drops add up really quick.
I'd like to see a bill that restricts congressmen from owning excessive private property (to avoid corruption), and also to restrict them from having kids (to avoid nepotism). An immediate consequence would be getting rid of most or all the worthless congressmen we have now. (these ideas come from Plato's Republic).
Fighting over a 100k history grant is just a distraction. Also it's not really hip or different to say "this is a waste of tax dollars", it just shows a lack of thought and experience.
Fighting over a 100k history grant is just a distraction. Also it's not really hip or different to say "this is a waste of tax dollars", it just shows a lack of thought and experience.
That amount is almost nothing for the Government. However, it's not the Government's job to do this and we need to cut out all these pointless little drops, since they eventually add up.
Though I really do like the idea of preserving games. That is a pretty nifty thing they are doing.
Though I really do like the idea of preserving games. That is a pretty nifty thing they are doing.
isometry said:
The not having kids part is impossible in an heavy bureaucracy environment. Plato is a Greek so his model basically apply mostly on a municipal level, due to relating to city state model of Greek Antiquity. While excessive private property only hold in a world where economy is mostly on local scale or where all good are tangible, going back to a tangible economic system would require to completely destroy the current world wide economy, then restart from scratch, the trouble is that doing so would most likely start panic not on level of 1929 but of 1347, since a tangible economy is a barter economy, which are much more harder to hide under the table and move around undetected then the virtual good banking systems introduced.
Last bill I read had three separate riders about giving unrelated parties a million bucks each, and then an amendment was passed that basically said "Tack a zero onto all the numbers in the riders."
If he only managed to find 100 then he was slacking.
If he only managed to find 100 then he was slacking.
So it's fine to maintain statue's from old ages, art throughout the ages on cultural arguments. . .
But it's wrong to preserve present day (it's only 50 years ago..) history for a meager sum of 113,000$? Heck, one town chip in 1$ extra in taxes and problem is solved =/
But it's wrong to preserve present day (it's only 50 years ago..) history for a meager sum of 113,000$? Heck, one town chip in 1$ extra in taxes and problem is solved =/
Well, it's a matter of preserving something. A museum is a way of showing things to the public. But the critical role isn't what the public gets to see, but the archive.loudestmute said:
And the problem I'm seeing here is that by the time someone thinks 'hmm, we should preserve this stuff', much of it is already lost forever.
about 50% of all early films have no surviving copies whatsoever. Quite a few more are very badly damaged, and at risk of being lost forever.
The BBC initially didn't think anyone would care about seeing things more than once. Particularly sitcoms.
And because the tapes used were expensive at the time... They taped over things.
So... Much of the british television broadcasts from the 50's to the 70's are lost forever.
The old series of doctor who is missing the second to fourth seasons entirely. They're gone. No hope of anyone ever seeing them again, in any form.
British comedy is even worse of. Monty Python's flying circus survived by sheer luck. Many other series were not so lucky.
The point is, if you're going to preserve anything at all, you have to think about it well in advance of it seeming important.
Because by the time it does seem important, much of the stuff you would probably have wished you'd preserved will be lost forever.
And once it's gone, it's gone.
Fucking hell this is getting frustrating.
Shut the fuck up, Coburn, the "waste" made by games is NOTHING in comparison to the needless trillion dollar wars, immense military industrial complex, and bullshit war on drugs that you and your crook bosses that bought you out pay for.
So, while your corrupt arse is busy defending your billionaire friends from fair taxes and keeping their pointless subsidies in place at all cost, you can shut the fuck up about what causes waste. You're the goddamn waste, arsehole.
Shut the fuck up, Coburn, the "waste" made by games is NOTHING in comparison to the needless trillion dollar wars, immense military industrial complex, and bullshit war on drugs that you and your crook bosses that bought you out pay for.
So, while your corrupt arse is busy defending your billionaire friends from fair taxes and keeping their pointless subsidies in place at all cost, you can shut the fuck up about what causes waste. You're the goddamn waste, arsehole.
So you don't want to help preserve America's greatest entertainment market?
Like you didn't want to preserve Hollywood during the Depression?
Like you didn't want to preserve Hollywood during the Depression?
Oh please it´s ~100k, considering how much debt US is in, another 100k YEARLY isn't going to affect anything ...
That´s assuming all of the current material will stay intact for another few decades without any kind of preservation, it might it might not, is it really worth taking a chance?Nouw said:
Its all about marginal effect. Does 100k MORE into cancer cure fund would benefit AS MUCH as the first 100k in the preversation of history?
No. If they both had equal amount of money, sure, cancer may give better benefit. but whne you talk about margina effect you find out that we already throw A LOT into the important stuff and we can afford throw a bit here and there for other stuff that is important as well.
No. If they both had equal amount of money, sure, cancer may give better benefit. but whne you talk about margina effect you find out that we already throw A LOT into the important stuff and we can afford throw a bit here and there for other stuff that is important as well.
Personally, while I value videogames and history in general. I think stuff like this is much better served by wealthy individuals with a passion for the subject taking care of them, rather than government that has bigger things to worry about and doesn't take care of the damn things properly anyway. So while it may be for different reasons than Senator Coburn I agree that this shouldn't be the governments responsibility.
Well if it really costs that much I can offer my basement for storage, and I'll only charge one grand.
While I agree that it is probably a worthwhile endeavor to preserve videogame history, I don't see how this kind of funding serves the national interest or falls under the enumerated powers of the Federal government. Of course, I also don't see how funding of the arts (which I generally appreciate) or research into why chimpanzees fling poo [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57346931/report-cites-billions-of-bucks-feds-wasting/] (which I find baffling) do either.
What we really need is less government so we pay less taxes so we can choose to personally help fund projects we think are worthwhile. Videogamers are famously generous. If preserving the history of videogames is something we think is truly worthwhile, we can make contributions through KickStarter.
What we really need is less government so we pay less taxes so we can choose to personally help fund projects we think are worthwhile. Videogamers are famously generous. If preserving the history of videogames is something we think is truly worthwhile, we can make contributions through KickStarter.
Eh, I'm on the fence. We really REALLY need to trimming the fat from the budget, and while 100k by itself isn't really a lot in the grand scheme of things, cutting a few thousand of such programs would make a significant dent in the budget.
Of course I also feel the need to point out how Senator Coburn was against passing a new law that would fund healthcare the 9/11 Ground Zero workers by closing bullshit offshore tax loopholes. So yeah, reducing the deficit is great, just don't bother his campaign contributors!
Of course I also feel the need to point out how Senator Coburn was against passing a new law that would fund healthcare the 9/11 Ground Zero workers by closing bullshit offshore tax loopholes. So yeah, reducing the deficit is great, just don't bother his campaign contributors!