Utopia: Under Construction
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In this world, a true utopia and free will cannot co-exist. I personally wouldn't bother to create a utopia at that cost.
i would answer this, but then i wouldn't have material to write a book. i do want to point out that most people have a skewed interpretation of an utopia. perfection wasn't invented by nature, it was invented as an ideal by man. perfection is achievable but unstable, and thus will not work forever. creating an utopia can still be done, in the sense of cost-efficiency and quality of life.
those who say that it can't be done are unfortunately the same people who would ruin the state of perfection.
those who say that it can't be done are unfortunately the same people who would ruin the state of perfection.
I think the ability to last is a prerequisite for a true utopia. Also, there's the matter of balence to consider. If one person's living perfectly with no output, then another person's taking the fall for it. A utopia is a society, everyone has to live a perfect life, not just a few people.theklng said:
an utopia wouldn't be an utopia if someone took the fall for someone else. also, a cost-efficient utopia would be able to last. it would be the closest thing to permanent perfection, periodically going in and out of a state of perfection.vivaldiscool said:
if a pre-requisite was durability, an utopia would be a paradox.
This exactly, we have to do a utopia project for Political Science, and I'm having a hard time coming up with one I agree with. Because they all rob peoples individuality and freedom, and as such I can't agree with any of them.vivaldiscool said:
Not entirely right, It could come from outopia which indeed means no place, but it could also come from eutopia, which means something like Good-place.ygetoff said:
let's see it would be Britain, the Neo Liberal side of Thatacherism, with slightly more welfare, solve homelessness by re-implication of the work house. although different from the past version of the Victorian times, like a hostile that gives the homeless a free room and board for work, they also earn a small amount of money on it so that after a few moneths they'll be able to pay for the rent of a place so they can get a job, also gives training to prepair them for work. however people who are just on the dole for the sake of not liking work will not be permitted to do so any more. jobseekers allowance requiring weekly meetings with parole officer type person and attendance of special classes to increase employability. not quite as extream as Norman Tibit's "if you want a job get on your bike and look for one!"
then an extremely libertarian social policy people can do whatever they want with their own bodies drugs, euthanasia all legal etc prostitution legalised but regulated by government.
free market capitalism only inhibited by environmental regulation, also laws to preserve Britain forests and wildlife,
lot of tax money going into government research, health and education. free university for those who cannot afford it. and free entry to Oxford and Cambridge for all (increasing the amount of people who can go there but also cap it's capacity to ensure it keeps it's elitism by only selecting the crème de la crème of those eligible)
one form of nationalised, cheap, green, fast public transportation (the rest all to be private)
military policy undersided as yet.
very tough immigration laws.
proportional representational electoral party seat system. implication of a codified constitution securing all of the laws so far. the lords to take on a supreme court type role and to remain unelected and selected of judges and other pillars of society to ensure no partisan nature within.
then an extremely libertarian social policy people can do whatever they want with their own bodies drugs, euthanasia all legal etc prostitution legalised but regulated by government.
free market capitalism only inhibited by environmental regulation, also laws to preserve Britain forests and wildlife,
lot of tax money going into government research, health and education. free university for those who cannot afford it. and free entry to Oxford and Cambridge for all (increasing the amount of people who can go there but also cap it's capacity to ensure it keeps it's elitism by only selecting the crème de la crème of those eligible)
one form of nationalised, cheap, green, fast public transportation (the rest all to be private)
military policy undersided as yet.
very tough immigration laws.
proportional representational electoral party seat system. implication of a codified constitution securing all of the laws so far. the lords to take on a supreme court type role and to remain unelected and selected of judges and other pillars of society to ensure no partisan nature within.
No single leader as such, rather elections toward a council, comprised of 10% of the population. In order to get onto the council you'd have to show intelligence and political awareness, then would have to be voted in by the rest of the population.
Enough technology around in order that the majority didn't have to work, instead funding would be funnelled towards the arts, philosophy and sciences.
Strict laws against environmental damage, apart from that broadly libertarian, but with restrictions on firearms and of course basic laws i.e no theft, fraud, assault or murder etc.
Enough technology around in order that the majority didn't have to work, instead funding would be funnelled towards the arts, philosophy and sciences.
Strict laws against environmental damage, apart from that broadly libertarian, but with restrictions on firearms and of course basic laws i.e no theft, fraud, assault or murder etc.
In my vision of a utopia people will be robbed of some freedoms but if it makes the quality of life better why should anyone care? People will still be entitled to their own personal beliefs and opinions as long as they don't drastically affect the living conditions or government. This is my opinion so please don't bash me.
