Valve Bans Developer From Steam for Prank Exposing Vulnerability - Update

AstaresPanda

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Slash2x said:
....... Wait they ONLY banned him for a year? I am ALMOST surprised at the comments in the thread, but not really.

Take this into context of another situation. A bank has a security flaw in their ATM, and at a company that has the contract to load software ads into the ATM(common in areas of America) an employee notices this fault. So as a joke to point out the issue after you put your card in the system, put in your pin, and request cash he makes it play the harlem shake for 60 seconds and flash the screen. The bank would press charges, and people would be IRATE.

MANY people have their credit card data in Steam, MANY people have hundreds of dollars in games on Steam. ANY hack or attack on that system is playing with a system that other people have invested money and or time into. As a DEVELOPER he should have known better as a gamer he should be appalled at himself.
said it dead on. He cant really ***** and i dont know why people are bitching at valve. They forget what is locked away in valve. So for some tit to pull this is very n00bish, then he goes and cries about it ????!?! trololol
 

ckam

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I can see the wrongs and rights of both parties, but why don't we just fix the problem and then call it a day?
 

waj9876

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Are people seriously saying he deserves it? Because he "hacked" Steam?

Is "hacker" the new "terrorist" and anyone who does anything unusual the common people don't know about is going to be labeled a hacker by everyone and their grandmother?

He didn't hack shit. He pointed out a flaw that anyone could exploit, hack free, and when it was ignored he did something completely harmless to get people to notice.
 

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Since there's still a little activity here, here's a blog post I wrote [http://whitetigershiro.blogspot.com/2014/06/game4thought001.html] that goes into detail on why I am more-or-less completely on the side of the developer who got banned, and feel that Valve/Steam should be held accountable for the entire incident.
 

Strazdas

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Slash2x said:
....... Wait they ONLY banned him for a year? I am ALMOST surprised at the comments in the thread, but not really.

Take this into context of another situation. A bank has a security flaw in their ATM, and at a company that has the contract to load software ads into the ATM(common in areas of America) an employee notices this fault. So as a joke to point out the issue after you put your card in the system, put in your pin, and request cash he makes it play the harlem shake for 60 seconds and flash the screen. The bank would press charges, and people would be IRATE.

MANY people have their credit card data in Steam, MANY people have hundreds of dollars in games on Steam. ANY hack or attack on that system is playing with a system that other people have invested money and or time into. As a DEVELOPER he should have known better as a gamer he should be appalled at himself.
Erm. He was in irc chat with valve developer, he told thme about the issue, they didnt believe him and told him to shut up so he decided to prove it actually existed as a last resort. it wasnt harmful, just irate.

gigastar said:
WhiteTigerShiro said:
1) He tried doing things the official way, and basically got ignored. The problem went unfixed.
And thats where he should have stopped.
that is very dangerous implication. it basicalyl says that if you cannot change anything by going the legal way due to the legal reprensetative incompetence as was this case, you canot do anything, which pretty much mean that any dictatorship should never be opposed.


gigastar said:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. If Valve did not rush to fix the exploit after his demonstration then all sorts of nonsense could have happened.
if valve did not rush to fix the explit after being told about it via the official channels then all sort of nonese WOULD have happened, harmlem shake or no harmlem shake. do you really think he was the only person who was aware of this ever?

NuclearKangaroo said:
i bet people will still accuse valve of not listening to its community

well its good to see the man banned, he had good intentions in the end afterall, but he and everyone else should think twice before trying to break their contracts
your post makes no sense. if Valve listens to the community - they unban the developer. it happened, so so far so good.
then you go on about how he should be banned, which is exactly opposite of your first statement. Meanwhile he broke no contract, so that statement is incorrect.
 

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If Valve had no intention of fixing the problem, you might side with Duda, but if from Valve's perspective Duda was pouring gasoline on the fire they meant to extinguish? While trespassing in a way he wasn't supposed to? Then Valve's reaction would be in no way inappropriate - though I am happy that they decided in the end to rescind the ban.

Hacks like these are fun to read about, but I think Duda's professional courtesy did not extend quite as far as it should have.