Hoo boy, I am excited! I've waited for this for a long time...
Oh, and guys; Stallman is Stallman. He's known for saying things like that, but he usually has good rationale behind them. Well, in theory anyway.
albino boo said:
Bostur said:
albino boo said:
I think its going to be a mistake. Valves commercial rivals are not going to port their games to Linux to aid the profitability of Gabe. Its going to have valves games and a few indie titles but that's about it. Steam presence on a platform does not make it instantly the gaming mainstream. If it did then MACs would have just as many games as a PC.
Maybe they could legally emulate or simulate the functionality of DirectX and other notable windows libraries. Then most Windows games would work out of the box. A lot of the work has already been done in the form of Wine.
You can't legally copy DirectX. As to emulation, the only attempt to for directx has already had allegations of copying Microsoft binaries but for a full commercial release, Microsoft will going over the code base looking for reasons to sue. Microsoft are not going to licence the technology to a rival of the xbox. However you can use openGL on both OS's but that would require Valves rivals to port to opengl from directX. I also supsect that the Xbox 720 will use the latest DirectX version making it easier to port to the PC/xbox.
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
flarty said:
If valve can nail porting engines to opengl, its open season.
If Valve can port the Source Engine to opengl, that's fine for them.
Other developers will still have to make the extra effort to port their own engines to opengl, and to support Linux. And there's no guarantee that they'll be willing to do so, seeing as to how they already spend millions porting between the 360, PS3 and PC.
Also, I'd like to mention that the PS3 runs OpenGL. All that the big guys need to do is leverage the PS3 code (or Mac, but Mac uses its own OpenGL, so that's not a good idea) for the Steam Box, and they're golden.
Laughing Man said:
I can't wait to see where this goes next.
Big developers and publishers don't have to embrace Valve's system. Fuck them. Small independent studios will embrace it. They will profit from it and they will grow larger and more competitive. This is the way to innovate.
LOL right because their are massive queues of people waiting for the midnight launch of Super Meat Boy and World of Goo. If Steam want the Steam Box to stand a chance they need to make it so that the big developers want to use it, either that or they need a big name seller to get the stupid people and fan boys to buy in to the hardware early. Anyone else seeing HL3 as an exclusive for the Steam Box? If that's the case that's a whole new kettle of fail but that's for another post.
Humble Bundles are a good source of knowing whether Linux users want games. They outpay the Windows and Mac users every year for the Humble Bundle. Also, marketing this as a cheap console that plays recent games is probably going to help the Steam Box get better.
Entitled said:
I'm pretty sure that if this is a PC, then you can just install Windows 7 on it along with the pre-installed Linux.
We're not even sure if it is. The article says pseudo-console, but for all we know, we might just get a PS3/X360 competitor with all the hatches sealed.
mrhateful said:
Is Richard Stallman misquoted or is he really that dumb?
I don't know what you mean by Stallman being that dumb. His idea of freedom is quite different than what we think of as freedom.
For all we know, Valve could potentially lock us in using the Steam box. Very implausible, as they've shown by being nice to us PC gamers, but not impossible.