Valve Doesn't Hate Origin

killamanhunter

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ColdStorage said:
TF2 keeps re downloading and stops at 66% if I'm not paying attention to my computer even though I have the orange box.
That's the self updater it does that to everyone, also every new program uses tons of RAM to run, so stop reinstalling it every Tuesday and it'll work
 

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matrix3509 said:
The fact of the matter is I'm sick and tired of having to sign up a separate account for every goddamn publisher I buy a game for. I'm already signed up to more shit than I can remember, which is a huge security risk for me.

Besides, if EA wants me to buy games through Origin they might actually try to offer me an incentive to do so. Rather than holding some exclusive titles over my head like a fucking 3rd grade bully, how about, you know, actually maybe offering some discounts?
Again. This is different from when Steam released...how?
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
thespyisdead said:
get a fucking console!!! no DRM or Origin there!
GET DOWN BOY!
*shoves into cover*
Phew... the PC elitists nearly got you there, what with their 'superior mouse aiming' (you know i jest, escapist :p)
Now don't say that again or you will be destroyed.
(consoles aren't really 'welcome' here)

OP: Stay classy Valve!
:D
You know, I have to say-- I seem to be seeing a heckuva lot more complaints about alleged "PC elitism" these days then I am actually examples of same.
 

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Lillowh said:
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Eh, unlike Steam, Origin is stable and doesn't chow down on CPU and RAM until your computer grinds to a halt and bursts into tears under the insane demands of the system.

Just my 2 cents.
Really? What program are you using? Definitely not Orgin, which with the window closed and running in the backround takes 70-90,000k of memory usage, compared to steam in the backround while running an open chat chat window using voice takes up only 13,000k. Please, give me whatever program you're using because I would like it.
With Origin open, it uses up 60k. With Steam up it was using 70. Which you know...is a pretty damn minimal difference.

So lets stop the dick waving and realize they're pretty much the same.

People bitching non-stop about Origin can feel free to shut the hell up at any time. Because they obviously weren't alive in 2004. If they were, then they didn't play PC games. If they were and did, they're just choosing to have selective memory because it supports their argument.
 

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I caved into Origin just so I could download the BF3 beta. After agreeing to what was at least 4 Terms of Services, I finally got to play...only I don't get to...because it won't work.
 

matrix3509

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Frostbite3789 said:
matrix3509 said:
The fact of the matter is I'm sick and tired of having to sign up a separate account for every goddamn publisher I buy a game for. I'm already signed up to more shit than I can remember, which is a huge security risk for me.

Besides, if EA wants me to buy games through Origin they might actually try to offer me an incentive to do so. Rather than holding some exclusive titles over my head like a fucking 3rd grade bully, how about, you know, actually maybe offering some discounts?
Again. This is different from when Steam released...how?
Is this 2003? Of course it fucking isn't. Your argument is the equivalent of Apple releasing a product on par with an Apple II and having fanboys come out of the woodwork and quack about how all computers were as shitty back in 1977.
 

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killamanhunter said:
ColdStorage said:
TF2 keeps re downloading and stops at 66% if I'm not paying attention to my computer even though I have the orange box.
That's the self updater it does that to everyone, also every new program uses tons of RAM to run, so stop reinstalling it every Tuesday and it'll work
I've gone beyond caring to be honest, It'll sort itself out when I blast registry entries I hope.

I've done this dance with Steam since 2009, I'm bored of this issue.

When all goes well, things are great, when things break they break on a monumental scale, this isn't the PC I originally installed Steam on, I merely had the gall to try again with it.

Don't screw this chance EA.
 

BarbaricGoose

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This reminds me of that Peter Gabriel song Family Snapshot. "I don't really hate you..." but I'm gonna destroy you.
 

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Marshall Honorof said:
Either way, Newell showed that it's still possible for competitors to evaluate each other's products without sounding like enormous bullies, and that speaks volumes.
Funny how that works. Now if only the people at EA could learn to play nice as well.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Frostbite3789 said:
matrix3509 said:
The fact of the matter is I'm sick and tired of having to sign up a separate account for every goddamn publisher I buy a game for. I'm already signed up to more shit than I can remember, which is a huge security risk for me.

Besides, if EA wants me to buy games through Origin they might actually try to offer me an incentive to do so. Rather than holding some exclusive titles over my head like a fucking 3rd grade bully, how about, you know, actually maybe offering some discounts?
Again. This is different from when Steam released...how?
Is this 2003? Of course it fucking isn't. Your argument is the equivalent of Apple releasing a product on par with an Apple II and having fanboys come out of the woodwork and quack about how all computers were as shitty back in 1977.
You seem confused. Let me pat you on the head and smile, before I back away slowly.

But I'll ask, why is EA making BF3 require Origin any different than Valve requiring HL2 to require Steam?

I'm not talking about the actual service, I'm talking about how to get people to use it. Nobody used Steam before they were required due to games needing it. To suggest otherwise is lunacy or more bluntly, bullshittting.
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
Lillowh said:
vrbtny said:
Eh, unlike Steam, Origin is stable and doesn't chow down on CPU and RAM until your computer grinds to a halt and bursts into tears under the insane demands of the system.

Just my 2 cents.
Really? What program are you using? Definitely not Orgin, which with the window closed and running in the backround takes 70-90,000k of memory usage, compared to steam in the backround while running an open chat chat window using voice takes up only 13,000k. Please, give me whatever program you're using because I would like it.
With Origin open, it uses up 60k. With Steam up it was using 70. Which you know...is a pretty damn minimal difference.

So lets stop the dick waving and realize they're pretty much the same.

People bitching non-stop about Origin can feel free to shut the hell up at any time. Because they obviously weren't alive in 2004. If they were, then they didn't play PC games. If they were and did, they're just choosing to have selective memory because it supports their argument.
Really Now?
Then what is the meaning behind this [http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/Lillowh/Originvssteam.png]? Not enough for you? How about with both programs open [http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/Lillowh/Originvssteam2.png]? It'd say that's not only a pretty big difference, but contests what you claimed as well. Would you like to post yours?
 

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It's a smart thing that EA brings their games back to steam. It allows the fat dude to give even more vacation packages to his employees. EA does not want to pay royalties to Valve anymore, why should they? Specially when they can sell 3rd party games too. I'm glad steam is finally getting some real competition. i dont like Newell at all, i think he and his entire "We're your gaming pals." attitude is a big fake, but at least I can see that he's more realistic than some of the majority of the Steam fanboys that dont see any flaws in their precious rental service.
 

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Worgen said:
The only reason origin has 4 mil subscribers is that they are about to release 2 big games that people really want and both require origin. But I don't really see origin becoming as much of a digital distribution storefront as steam has become, sure they will get some 3rd party games on there but I doubt most of the other big publishers are going to be willing to put stuff on origin. Steam has the benefit of being owned by valve and valve isn't really a publisher, so there isn't a conflict of interests with someone like activision putting games on it.
The only reason why people installed Steam in their computers was because there were several games that required it to validate and play. Cant remember its name, it's been that long, that not even Valve remembers it. There was no incentive, no reason to use it, and people hated that ugly installer. But Valve shoved it down everyone's throats, and said "you use this, and you like it." And people eventually did. Don't matter if Origin now is owned by a publisher. GG was owned by Paradox. That wasnt a conflict of interest to 3rd party devs.
 

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Funny to see that the fat dude is no longer saying that "There's a lot of value in having EA games on Steam, and we need to convince EA about that." Value to his own personal account?
 

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Lillowh said:
Done [http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7803/steamorigin.png]

Steam dropped below Origin this time on my system. By a whopping 4k. Wow. Just...I can see the difference now and why it's totally an issue.

In case you were wondering... /sarcasm