Valve Working With Modders to Create New Global Offensive Modes
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Valve is like a brilliant artist with ADHD. Episode Three is his great unfinished magnum opus, and CS:GO is a shiny thing. Knowing Valve, I'm sure it'll be a very well-made, perfectly executed shiny thing, but I DON'T WANT SOME SHINY THING, I WANT THE MASTERPIECE I WAS PROMISED!
Sorry about that. Here, Gabe, you need this more than anyone:
Sorry about that. Here, Gabe, you need this more than anyone:
That's part of what I consider the poblem. The fact that 10,000,000 love something doesn't mean it becomes better, it just means it's well known.Mr.K. said:
I know but still. With Valve support it could be pushed forward a huge amount, instead CS is getting crapped out again.NLS said:
I may not like CS either, but the numbers dont lie. If you check the daily activity on steam, you'd see that CS and CSS consistently top the charts in most played game in the steam client almost every single day. I wanna see HL3, but I gotta admit it would be stupid for valve to overlook such an opportunity to make a mint off of a sequel to their most popular product.manythings said:
And if you hadnt noticed, Natural Selection 2 is already being made. Granted, from the looks of it it'll be a little far off. http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/
Like I've already said I know about NS2 and that is what makes this all the worse, in my opinion, they are choosing American Idol over a lesser known product of actual worth to make more money they don't need while people still don't get that Valve is run for Valve's benefit. The customer isn't the first concern.Echo136 said:
Shit is shit no matter how popular it becomes.
Well, have to say, does anyone actually care for any of the characters in Episode 3?
Counter Strike Source hasn't really had much else for quite some time, can we please shut the hell up so fans of this, who have been patient, get their turn?
Relating to my first post, what makes YOU want Episode 3. Just more crowbaring aliens, or seeing characters grow, what makes YOU want it.
Now, I think they wouldn't sell a shit ton of copies until a sale, I never heard of those games before, so they would need to advertise, with CS Go, they don't need to, Episode 3, they don't need too, same with Dota, they just don't need to. So they can actually FOCUS on the game, not marketing.
Its not that they want to only make MONEY, its just that their plate is full as hell.
Counter Strike Source hasn't really had much else for quite some time, can we please shut the hell up so fans of this, who have been patient, get their turn?
Relating to my first post, what makes YOU want Episode 3. Just more crowbaring aliens, or seeing characters grow, what makes YOU want it.
I'm with you, CS is a brilliant FPS, it took what I like about doom * run an gun gameplay, unrelenting learning, but it was fun* and made it modern team vs team shooter.Grey_Focks said:
Want to know why they won't remake those? Because their plate is bloody full, Dota 2, CS GO, and Episode 3, their just being hushed mouth on it, anyways.manythings said:
Now, I think they wouldn't sell a shit ton of copies until a sale, I never heard of those games before, so they would need to advertise, with CS Go, they don't need to, Episode 3, they don't need too, same with Dota, they just don't need to. So they can actually FOCUS on the game, not marketing.
Its not that they want to only make MONEY, its just that their plate is full as hell.
But that's how sports are, when was the last time Chess, Baseball, Football, Basketball,... got better, sure all of it got polished up to make it a better spectator sport but the basic mechanics can never change or you lose the exact audience you try to appease.manythings said:
And this is the same for CS, what they can do is polish it up further, make the connectivity easier, put down some ranks, ladders, matchmaking, put in tournaments, and greater spectator capabilities, map editors, map sharing, map ranking,.... not to forget new game modes can switch up gameplay alot.
There is always alot more to do even if you don't change the core game.
Looks cool. Of course all the cool kids are going to ***** about it until it comes out and you see CS:GO on their Now Playing.
Thank you for saying to me what I said to you. I get it's a company, it annoys me so many other people don't get that fact and act like Valve are some kind of Robin Hood-esque folk heroes fighting the forces of corporate greed for the commoners.Echo136 said:
But my point is that it's not a good game. There have been far better ones. NS for tactical play and branching team paths, The Specialists and Desert Crisis for batshit insane action and Vampire Hunter because it just had great feel and balancing.Mr.K. said:
CS is guys with guns shooting other guys with guns while talking about how the other guys so totally are fag sniper lol homoz. You might as well pick extreme walking over american football.
Let's ask the question, "What can Valve do completely for free whenever they feel like it?"Aprilgold said:
The answer: Get $100,000,000 worth of free press just by announcing they have a new something in the works. Every single time they announce anything at all the internet combusts and every website has "Valve has [whatever] coming [whenever]" right on the front page for days. Don't think that's enough? Try the 25-ish million people who own steam accounts and every time they load up Steam an ad that costs less than a penny to make and put out appears saying "Check this shit out! We've made a thing."
Valve are not having a problem selling products to people and they certainly aren't hurting for talent or people who would even work for free just to say they worked at Valve.
Personal preference my friend, everyone picks their favorites.manythings said:
To me CS seemed pretty damn perfect for what it was, but I much prefer big extravagant sci-fi shooters like UT.
In college I ran a CS:S server on-campus: GG Deathmatch, Turbo, Reverse Order.SpAc3man said:
I felt that having the default order rewarded people who got an early lead, rather than rewarding those who are consistently good with all weapons. Reverse order helps the players who are "behind" from getting frustrated, and it helps keep the good players from getting bored because it's too easy.
