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Fanta Grape

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The 'Would you ever become vegan' thread frustrated me quite a bit.

I am a "vegan" for moral reasons. I say vegans in quotation marks because because I still occasionally use leather, I bite my nails and I use fossil fuels; but let's not get technical here. The reason I am a vegan by moral (and I'm repeating myself in another thread) is because I'm lazy. I have truly nothing against people eating animals and all, but unfortunately some places treat animals poorly. Maybe having chickens live in cages for their whole lives, cows in small spaces, etc. If I wasn't lazy, I'd go out and find places where the animals were treated very well in their lives before being eaten and promote them. I wouldn't say I really have the time for that though so instead, I go for the next most convenient option. It's not religious or anything, I just don't think animals should be greatly suffering for our convenience. It doesn't make a difference, and I'm still going to use animal products, but I do my best because I don't want to support something I don't believe in.

A few things were being repeated in the thread though which I'd like to correct, or at least debate about because I could very easily be wrong.

1. Being a vegan should be about morals or medical conditions, not a diet. A small portion of lean, unprocessed meat, with raw vegetables, a side of bread and a glass of water/milk/whathaveyou is very simple, delicious, and most importantly, very easily balanced. You can get a vegan meal that is just as balanced, but why bother with the extra effort and taking the risk of deficiencies?

2. Assuming you don't have pre-existing medical conditions, you can be perfectly healthy being a vegan, even without supplements. The major contributors to poor health is iron, B12 and calcium deficiencies. They can all be found in non-animal product foods. Many people are worried about protein but there's huge amounts of it in many vegan foods, and even then, you can buy high protein mock meats.

3. It is not necessarily expensive. While many fruits may be a little pricy, as you may expect to eat them a lot of the time, I find myself being full on lots of sandwiches, pastas and rice dishes. Granted, I may be a little high in carbohydrates, yet it's all very tasty and easy on the wallet.

And a few things for people considering veganism or are already vegan.

-SEE A DOCTOR. It can be extremely dangerous if not approached properly.
-Don't be militant about it. If you accidentally eat some product that "may contain milk", deal with it. What's done is done and it hasn't changed what you believe in.
-Don't enforce it on others. Just... Don't.
I understand why people eat meat. I personally love it myself. My favourite food is Korean Barbecue. I can't eat it but when I did, I adored it. And that's MY choice not to eat it. Not anyone else's.

Discuss.
 

BonsaiK

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No need to discuss anything here because you've exhausted all the possible angles by having a really well-written, well-informed OP.
 

Nickolai77

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Do you guy's really have super-powers?


Being more serious: Fine if that's your choice, it sure as hell isn't mine, i love eating meat. I understand the moral concerns about eating and killing animals though- it's problematic but it's not worth me giving up meat.
 

Exterminas

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I would scrap point number one.
There is no moral requirement for this kind of lifestyle. Some poeple just don't like the taste and texture of meat and keep vegan for that reason.
Are they some kind of lower class of vegans and won't get to heaven for that fault?
 

New Troll

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The main reason I'm not a vegan is I'm inhumane. (was called inhumane in the prison thread so might as well stick with it)

Actually it's more of the ostrich effect, I don't see it so I don't think about it. There's no way to know for sure what abuse (or lack there of) my animal went through, but I'm not going to waste it's perfectly fine meat "just in case." In my opinion, that's what that creature was put on this Earth for, so I'm not going to argue or complain. Nice being on top of the food chain.

As for the OP, good post. Nice, valid points while remaining unabtrusive. Main reason I replied in your thread.
 

Daveman

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I think I prefer vegans to vegetarians in the respect that at least with their beliefs they're consistent.

But seriously, I don't think it's about laziness. I mean I know an animal is free range just by looking at the packet and frankly that's good enough for me.

One thing that I think has very big misconceptions about it is fois gras paté. This comes from the fact that the duck or goose is "force fed" grain which causes it's liver to grow huge and this is used to make the paté. But the conception of force feeding something is wrong in many cases. If you get quality fois gras from the Dordogne region of france where it originated the farmers there have their ducks freely roaming outside and they walk up to recieve the grain which is then poured down their gullet, nothing "forced" about it. It's exploiting a natural phenomenon that these animals have to put on weight for the winter. I'm not saying there aren't people who do shove tubes down animal's throats to force feed them but I'm saying if sourced right even what may seem like the most unethical of food practices can be reasonable.
 

WrongSprite

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What are we meant to be discussing?

I'm cool with vegans. Can't get enough of MANFLESH meat myself, but yeah that's just me.
 

Fanta Grape

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Exterminas said:
I would scrap point number one.
There is no moral requirement for this kind of lifestyle. Some poeple just don't like the taste and texture of meat and keep vegan for that reason.
Are they some kind of lower class of vegans and won't get to heaven for that fault?
That's a good point, but point no.1 was really concerning people wanting to lose weight.

I'm not aware of any people who dislike all foods including animal products ranging from roasts to ice cream, so while that is definitely a possibility, I'll state that there's nothing wrong at all with people going vegan for simple preference of taste.
 

Thaluikhain

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Nickolai77 said:
Do you guy's really have super-powers?
Beat me to it.

WrongSprite said:
What are we meant to be discussing?

I'm cool with vegans. Can't get enough of MANFLESH meat myself, but yeah that's just me.
Expect alot of messages from amorous males who misinterpreted that.
 

Levi93

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Erm... Is it true that some vegans are vegans not because they love animals, but because they hate plants?
 

Bendebec

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Some people actually don't want to eat meat and become vegetarian or vegan because they just can't eat meat, my teacher explained that she can't eat meat because the texture of it and the idea that she is eating tendons and fat and muscle made it almost impossible for her to eat meat, however, I find that a lot of people who have trouble eating meat are fine with eating fish or seafood, which seems odd to me, as it is still muscle that they are eating.