Haha, if this last effort hadn't have worked, it would have come down to that.bodyklok said:
But Thanks for helping out
Video Game Survey
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But Thanks for helping out
To: Slash Dementia, Nmil-ek, sethzard, Darkintent, Reaperman Wompa and short_name111 (and anyone else I may have accidentally overlooked).
Thank you all very much. It'll go a long way towards helping me get done, I really appreciate it.
Thank you all very much. It'll go a long way towards helping me get done, I really appreciate it.
You're welcome, i'm always happy to help. Because helping is helpful to people who need help.IceMan In Black said:
I sincerely hope you realize what a load of crap your survey is. I've read your responses to those other two but what you dont get is that gaming is the grayest area to ever exist. I love burnout paradise its a racing game. I like it more than cod 4. But in general i like fps more than racing. What you should have done is make people list their favorite games , and beside it put what kind of genre it was. That being said, genre has almost nothing to do with a good game. Halo, GoW, CoD are all shooters, but GoW is third person. Dead or Alive, Tekken, and Street Fighter are all fighters but Street fighter is 2d. Were someone to ask me if i had a choice between a 2d game and a 3d game, i would choose 3d. If some one said more speciffically between DoA or SF i would choose SF because (to me) its a better game. You can segregate all you like but that will never ever (well, maybe a little) help game developers sell their games. If the game is good it will sell itself. Your marketing calss should be teaching how to promote games not take surveys.
All that being said, some of the questions were good like what is most important in a game:
Story
length
graphics
etc...
These are all important but some more than others to different people. For me, the story is number one. number two would be GAMEPLAY wich you forgot to add, so i put replay value which i assumed was the same thing. Length for me was last. I liked this question cause it wasnt vague and though a "forced ranking" it may be, its ranking the components of a game, and not vague game types.
I dont play games that often even though i answered the 2nd question 7+. Its because i have had literally ALL of my gaming equipment taken away from me. Except my psp wich i cleverly hid. I answered the question as if i had gaming equipment. Because when i do have gaming equip ment my play time ranges from 20-30+ hours a week. No i dont consider myself a hardcore gamer. My point? Your wording fails. You sound like an ignorant adult. You should have said "on average" somewhere in that sentance. In short you need to remake this quiz.
Once you do i will be more than happy to take it again. Just remember the gray area that dominates games. It's like leaving christ out of christianity.
(this is intended to help not hurt, good luck with your class
)
Also if your going to divide up the gaming catogories at least do it right. A mmo could also be an fps. A third person action game could also be a shooter(Gow).Jadak said:
All that being said, some of the questions were good like what is most important in a game:
Story
length
graphics
etc...
These are all important but some more than others to different people. For me, the story is number one. number two would be GAMEPLAY wich you forgot to add, so i put replay value which i assumed was the same thing. Length for me was last. I liked this question cause it wasnt vague and though a "forced ranking" it may be, its ranking the components of a game, and not vague game types.
I dont play games that often even though i answered the 2nd question 7+. Its because i have had literally ALL of my gaming equipment taken away from me. Except my psp wich i cleverly hid. I answered the question as if i had gaming equipment. Because when i do have gaming equip ment my play time ranges from 20-30+ hours a week. No i dont consider myself a hardcore gamer. My point? Your wording fails. You sound like an ignorant adult. You should have said "on average" somewhere in that sentance. In short you need to remake this quiz.
Once you do i will be more than happy to take it again. Just remember the gray area that dominates games. It's like leaving christ out of christianity.
(this is intended to help not hurt, good luck with your class
)
Done.
Woo, I'll count this as my good deed of the month.
Woo, I'll count this as my good deed of the month.
Agreed. I mean, hey, I'm a poor student, I don't have any of the fancy current gen consoles because they're too bloody expensive, but I still have my GC - and I actually play it, too.Cpt_Oblivious said:
Good luck with the assignment.
In the future, you might want to double check everything before setting it up.
In the future, you might want to double check everything before setting it up.
No problem. Yes, I did fill out the survey. I was more curious to see if you would answer more than anything, rather than being an annonymous marketer under the guise of a student. If you want more "realistic" answers, I would suggest making a stronger questionaire and posting it on the site. I will be more than happy to answer that one for you as well. Good luck with the assignment. Hopefully you can help change the way the market is moving...IceMan In Black said:
andArchaon6044 said:
All I can say is I screwed up and forgot it. You would think that, with two other gamers in my group, that we wouldn't have forgotten to mention Strategy (at the very least). I would fix the complaints if it wouldn't screw up the results of the survey. But you are right, I should have included Strategy at the very least (I used to play AOE II all the time). Oh well. I'll make a note of it in my report and thanks to both of you for helping.Jadak said:
Honestly, I pretty much agree with everything you said. I should have been more specific and said this was a marketing research class, in other words they want to teach us how to do marketing (and yet in the end they want us to be able to say how we should advertise how much all of its going to cost etc. and we didn't really cover much of that). We were aloud to do pretty much whatever we wanted as far as what and how we researched as long as we have some primary research. I agree that genre has little bearing on how good a game is, but our main goal for the project was to tell this fictional company what genre of game to make. As you pointed out there is a lot of things that go into making a good game. Trying to make a survey to really pinpoint what that would be for a specific, blockbuster game is too much for a college project like this. Especially considering the fact I had to limit the number of questions to 10 (which is, in this situation, beyond hard). As far as the number of hours go, that was just a bad question. When I originally did the survey I was thinking that would be able to tell me something about casual gamers, but I should have made the gaps larger, or at least gave more options. But this survey and discussion board is kind of a microcosm of how a lot of marketing research is. Companies have unrealistic or just plan wrong expectations and thoughts about a particular market, and marketing research is the first place it will show up. But I do know how much of a gray area this is. And I tried to satisfy all parties involved, but I didn't quite connect in the way I wanted or hoped to connect to the market (be it survey, time and monetary constants or just plan wrong/bad ideas for survey questions). But anyway I really appreciate the comments and they will go in the marketing report. Thanks for your time and opinions. It really helps.Lullabye said:No i dont consider myself a hardcore gamer. My point? Your wording fails. You sound like an ignorant adult. You should have said "on average" somewhere in that sentance. In short you need to remake this quiz.
Once you do i will be more than happy to take it again. Just remember the gray area that dominates games. It's like leaving christ out of christianity.
(this is intended to help not hurt, good luck with your class
Agreed. I mean it got checked by four other people before it got put online. But like I said, this is for a class and it's a learning experience. I've learned a lot more than I thought I could with one little 10 question survey. Anyway thanks for helping.Chickenlittle said:
To: Phyroxis, Azaradel, LimaBravo (I guess you could get paid in internets, but you all have my friendship and gratitude, that's good payment right? ), Fruitloops89, Damien the Pigeon and everyone else that has filled this out. Thank you so much. They're all good/quality responses. Every bit helps. Thanks again.
), Fruitloops89, Damien the Pigeon and everyone else that has filled this out. Thank you so much. They're all good/quality responses. Every bit helps. Thanks again.
I don't think I'll be making a new survey since the whole project is due in a couple of weeks and we still have to write the paper, come up with an advertising campaign (which is something we really didn't go over in the class and for this kind of project I don't think its really appropriate, but whatever). Like I said, I did the best with what I had. I would like to be in a position where I could tell people that come up with surveys like this why they are bad/wrong and how to fix them, but that will take time to work that far up the chain. I'm glad this experience is showing that there is a bigger disconnect from "company" and market than what I realized. But it would be nice to help change marketing's direction. And thanks again for your help.Lord_Jaroh said: