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razer17

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i did some checks, and i didn't see this elsewhere

So it would seem that the British government has teamed up with TIGA, to create an APPG. Now, TIGA is a trade body which represents the business and commercial interests of game developers in the UK, and europe.
"So what does this mean for the industry in Britain?" I hear you cry. Fear not, I have at least some of the answers here:

First of let's define what an APPG ( all party parliamentary group) is - In layman's terms it is a group of parliament members who talk about a given subject of interest ( here, it is obviously video game development). these meetings are informal in nature (compared to normal parliamentary discussions) and have no direct impact on legislature. However, due to the neutrality of these groups, and the fact that outside parties, such as TIGA, can participate they are created in order to aid the issues. These findings can then be suggested to parliament as a whole, who can then choose to legislate. "All Party Groups can be a highly effective vehicle to raise and discuss issues amongst interested Parliamentarians,"

What does this mean for our beloved industry? Well, it should have a positive effect. The government has finally realised that the video game industry is a cash cow to nurture, feed and then milk. that may sound like a bad idea, but it will be a win-win situation for government and the industry.
Basically it will be used to help draw in more developers into Britain, through various means, including tax cuts. therefore more developers in Britain, paying less money. Industry - cheaper to produce games in Britain, Government - less tax per company, more companies so more overall.

It can also help to introduce other measures, including a better link between the academic world and the industry world. this could help more people to be employed after taking their degrees relevant to the games industry.

I have heard a few negative comments being made about this APPG though. maybe I should dispel some myths about it:
1) the government are going to be sticking their noses into my favourite hobby! -
No, firstly it isn't the government proper, an APPG is a separate entity to the parliament as a whole, plus the involvement of TIGA should keep all developments positive, that and the fact that APPG are generally for creating positive changes anyway.

2) These people don't care about gaming.
wrong, APPG's are made up of the people who actually care about the issue to be discussed

3) all they are after is money !
Yes, that could very well be true. however, they are after something to benefit everyone. if they were just after money this could be discussed in the Commons, as opposed to making a APPG for it. it will not lead to an increase in tax either, not to developers nor consumers.

4 (I honestly saw this somewhere) Will this mean that politicians can claim expenses on the gaming industry as well now?
When will people shut up about this. you can't bring it into every political discussion. and they are changing those laws on expenses. MP's have been claiming expenses for years, and no one gave a shit, plus if it were any of us we would have done the same. (that doesn't justify it though, just that humans are greedy) So no, MP's can't claim expenses on games or whatever you think they will now be able to claim expenses on.

I know this is a lot of text, but thanks for reading, if you did.
point for discussion, how dod you think this will affect the industry, in UK, and as a result elsewhere?


edit - oops this might have been for the gaming forum. if a mod sees fit to do so, please move it.
 

razer17

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my most well constucted OP, and it gets no attention.
i wish i hadn't accidentally put it in the wrong section
 

JRslinger

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So is this the British equivelant of an American congressional subcommitee? If so I'm guessing some future laws regarding video games will be formed in this new body.

[/quote]The government has finally realised that the video game industry is a cash cow to nurture, feed and then milk [/quote]

I hope you're right, and that this body could be used against unecessary government restrictions
 

razer17

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
I don't quite follow.
essentially it's just a small, semi-informal comittee made up of government members, who will discuss how to aid video game developers in the UK
 

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Simalacrum said:
lets just hope Jack Thompson doesn't get involed.
this is UK, not the USA, so i don't think he would bother.
plus im pretty sure no one would let him join a pro-gaming committee
 

Beltom

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Would this mean some developers might start outsourcing their assets (not sure if that's the right word to use) to Britain as well as new developer's springing up?
 

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Beltom1066 said:
Would this mean some developers might start outsourcing their assets (not sure if that's the right word to use) to Britain as well as new developer's springing up?
that's what they are looking to promote, through various means.
although, they are similar to a lobby group, as in they have no actual legislative power, but because they are primarily MP's and such, they can then draft legislation at a later date, and inform other MP's not in the group.
 

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sirbryghtside said:
Makes sense - although I don't see why they don't just do football. £80 million for one player? Credit crunch? What credit crunch?
The amount those fools are paid to kick a ball around is outrageous.
 

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It can't be worse than anything before, but I just hope they look at games on the same level as they would with movies, like the BBFC does (British Board of Film Classification) who would sometimes rate games when for some reason ELSPA or ESRB weren't available.

I miss ELSPA, they were so much more sensible than the idiots of ESRB.
 

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mentor07825 said:
razer17 said:
my most well constucted OP, and it gets no attention.
i wish i hadn't accidentally put it in the wrong section
The general way topics are formed, here on the Escapist, is that anything not to do with games get a lot of attention.

Mostly the threads that are heavily about games or the video game industry (such as this thread) don't get a lot of attention.
especially when you accidentaly put it into the wrong section of the forum
 

Chipperz

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This is (from what little I understand) a great thing :) I'm all for the government treating games like a cash-cow if it means more funding and jobs in the industry. More companies like Media Molecule and Rebellion will always be welcome :)
 

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razer17 said:
Simalacrum said:
lets just hope Jack Thompson doesn't get involed.
this is UK, not the USA, so i don't think he would bother.
plus im pretty sure no one would let him join a pro-gaming committee
oh I dunno, Jack Thompson has done some preeeettty stupid stuff before, he might just haul himself over here to nag in the UK instead... besides, he might use horrible witchcraft or something to brainwash the committee and turn it into the start of his own personal anti-gaming army... and then the nerds of the world will have to stand up to the endless hoard of the Thompson-zombies (the committee are infectious!!!), in an epic battle for the survival of our hobby...

I have an over-active imagination :p
 

GrinningManiac

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Legislation 4 Thompson? Nah, not catchy enough.

the Thompson Zombies are coming!

Night of the Unfotunatley Living Prats
 

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Hmmm this doesn't sound particularly promising or omenous...just sounds like regular parliment BS. If they screw up it'll get demolished by the mass game industry thats here already (mostly in scotland). If they do start fucking around with shit people will object *heavily* especially since Crytek have listed britian as a possible relaction site if germany goes ahead with their violent games ban.

on a random tangent: MPs have claimed(and tried to claim) *pornography*, shopping, tables, remeberance wreaths, life coaching classes, party donations, domestic staff, church donations, gardening services, photographic software and equipment (for self use for non work activities), boxes of mints, teddy bears, dvds, novels, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc.
 

GrinningManiac

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In Jackie's defence, she didn't know she was claiming for her husband's secret "naughty videos". I actually feel kinda sorry for her, finding out exactly WHAT she'd just paid for