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Haliwali said:
piers789 said:
Haliwali said:
piers789 said:
Pyro Paul said:
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mentor07825 said:
psypherus said:
Whether they can pull it off or not, I doubt any American game company will try to recreate an illegal war which they lost.
War is never illegal, just wrong depending on the cirumstances.
Why don't you look up Military law and then tell me the war was not illegal dumbass
oh...kay.
Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, Article 51.

it is not illegal for a nation to defend herself, nor for her allies to come to their aid.
NATO and the warsaw pact also exploit this loophole which is why countries subscribing to those charters can respond with agressive force with out having to consult the UN. although the need for as such has yet to occure. and even then it comes under the un-easy eye of the worlds nations.
Yes but the American's weren't defending themselves. So the war was illegal. And because Vietnam didn't become a member of the U.N. until 1977 (two years after the end of the war) it was illegal for the Americans to go to war.
I believe the war was justified. We were protecting our interests (spread of communism) and helping our allies (South Vietnamese/French.) Besides, militarily we owned that war. However, much like today the press had a very anti-war slant, which caused a huge loss of public support.
I agree about the press and the military parts. Numerically speaking the U.S., Australians, French, A.R.V.N. did a much better job that the press let the public believe. However I can't agree with your justification. As I see it, America only went to war for two reasons:
1)They were backing the French armed forces in Vietnam in the early 50's and as the French lost the American government sent in troops to try to win the war on communism so that the American people wouldn't see what a massive waste of their money it had been.
2)The Domino Theory of Communism: first China, then Korea, then Vietnam, Laos, etc. was their idea of what might happen. In reality this theory would be pretty unlikely to happen and you can't go to war on based on assumption.
Well, the domino theory was sort of right, wasn't it?
Yes, it was. There is no denying that, what I'm saying though, is you shouldn't go to war on a theory.
 

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letsnoobtehpwns said:
I'm praying for a Call of Duty: Vietnam made by Infinity Ward.
You're more likely to see it from Treyarch, they're the ones who have a game in hand.

Nmil-ek said:
Better question why are there no fps on the Falklands War that would be alot more bloody interesting.
Yeah, with about half an hour of gameplay, it would own.

Setting: The Falkland islands.

Argentina: It's our land! It has been for ages, you just didn't know it!

England: Bollocks, it's always been our land, and we won't hear any more of it!

Argentina: Okay fair enough, you win. Want to go get something to eat?

England: Yeah sure why no- wait...is that an Argentine flag? On our soil? You fucking what? CHAAAARRGE!!!!

*Cue 30 mins of play, then cue credits*
 

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Pyro Paul said:
piers789 said:
Pyro Paul said:
oh...kay.
Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, Article 51.

it is not illegal for a nation to defend herself, nor for her allies to come to their aid.
NATO and the warsaw pact also exploit this loophole which is why countries subscribing to those charters can respond with agressive force with out having to consult the UN. although the need for as such has yet to occure. and even then it comes under the un-easy eye of the worlds nations.
Yes but the American's weren't defending themselves. So the war was illegal. And because Vietnam didn't become a member of the U.N. until 1977 (two years after the end of the war) it was illegal for the Americans to go to war.
okay...

lets say that again in a manner you can understand

it is not illegal for a nation to defend herself, NOR FOR HER ALLIES TO COME TO THEIR AID

South vietnam was an Ally to the US, being a democratic state.
there for it is not illegal for the US to come to the aid of their Ally in defence of the sovergnty of the nation. further more a nations sovergnty is not defined by weither or not it is acknowledged by the United Nations.


the United States went to the Aid of an ally.
hence why it is not an illegal war.
As I understood it, neither the North or the South actually declared war on one another. There was an uprising to free them of French rule and since the American government was funding the French in Indochina they went in and effectively started a war over money and, as I've said in another post in this thread, over a theory. Making the war illegal.
 

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Naeo said:
For it to be good you'd have to be able to switch the radios to Robin Williams' station. Otherwise there won't be a damn thing about it I can't get elsewhere.

(cheers if you get it)
I got it. I love that film.
 

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It'd be interesting to play a game as the Vietkong, a pseudo stealth fps/3rd person action game. You have to use tunnels, secret paths (not like the crappy Ho Chi Minh trail) and set up traps.
 

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quiet_samurai said:
God Dammit Walter what the fuck does anything have to do with Vietnam!?!?
"Well there isn't a literal connection..."

Anyway, I find the whole Vietnam thing boring. I am pessimistic about there being a "fun" Vietnam game.