Villains you felt sympathy for, but felt you weren't meant to?
- Thread starter Relish in Chaos
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I guess I felt SOME sympathy for movie Gideon from Scott Pilgrim. I mean, he wanted his girlfriend back, which was what he wanted. The comic version is way worse though, so I really do feel sympathy for how they degraded his character.
Hardly a villain in the end, he WAS the chosen one after all.Bhaalspawn said:
Oh god this; I HATE the other races in Mass Effect, too much Planet Of Hats i think. They're all prickish assholes determined to undermine humanity but the Illusive Man sees this and determines to make humanity shine in the darkness and speed up the slow innovation of the Citadel races.clippen05 said:
Kane (From Command & Conquer) gets my pick he just wants to go home after being stuck on earth. He can also claim that humanities technological progress is attributable to him. Who can claim GDI is the good guys when the abandoned 70% of humanity to tiberium (Alien crystals that have a nasty habit of being radioactive, toxic, consume everything they stick too AND self-replicate at relentless speeds)?
the humans in the avatar movie...
kill those blue freaks and that traitor...
:/ yeah.... i think i missed the point of that movie...
kill those blue freaks and that traitor...
:/ yeah.... i think i missed the point of that movie...
Führer King Bradley of FMA: Brotherhood
He was ultimately the most human of the homunucli, and I generally held some level of respect for him, considering he was created for a sole purpose.
SPOILER:
That last fight with Scar really showed how much he yearned to be free. Nothing else mattered, not Father, not the country, just him and his survival and he loved it.
He was ultimately the most human of the homunucli, and I generally held some level of respect for him, considering he was created for a sole purpose.
SPOILER:
That last fight with Scar really showed how much he yearned to be free. Nothing else mattered, not Father, not the country, just him and his survival and he loved it.
Well, Bowser Jr's mother was in fact Peach because in super mario sunshine bowser tells bowser jr that peach is his mother and peach doesn't deny it. So we can assume the same for the rest of them...demoman_chaos said:
No, because at the end of the game, Bowser admitted that he was lying and Bowser Jr. admitted that he knew all along that Peach wasn't really his mother. Peach just doesn't know how to say anything other than "Mario!" in the main series, so denying his claim was beyond her abilities.th3_aVengeR said:
True, but if Bowser Jr. wasn't with Peach, then who else could it have been? If it was Peach, then he has time (when he kidnaps her), means (Overall stronger than Peach), and maybe the motive (if he was in love with Peach and kidnapped her because that is the only way he could show that). Unless you want to go Super Mario Bros. movie and say that it was Birdo and since they were both dinosaurs maintained Bowers physical appearance but were reduced in size.Semudara said:No, because at the end of the game, Bowser admitted that he was lying and Bowser Jr. admitted that he knew all along that Peach wasn't really his mother. Peach just doesn't know how to say anything other than "Mario!" in the main series, so denying his claim was beyond her abilities.th3_aVengeR said:
Akuma from Street Fighter at best a anti-hero/anti-villian and when he gets ported to western audiences straight up villian hell with the latest Street Fighter game he hasn't killed anybody Gouken is really alive and Bison dies every sunday so he dosen't count.
Actually that was kind of the point of the film. Sure, Patrick Wilson is a horrible horrible person, but Ellen Paige isn't any better, and if I remember correctly is actually supposed to be a budding serial killer who is praying on pedophiles because no one will miss them. Both of the characters are terrible which is a point a lot of people miss about the film. In fact, I've encountered several people who for some reason consider Ellen Paige's character's action admirable, despite the fact that she is a sadistic psychopath.Relish in Chaos said:
Mass Effect 3 spoilers within!
Yeah, after playing through the trilogy, I also have to go with the Illusive Man. He is a classic example of an antagonist with good intentions, but controversial/questionable methods of achieving those intentions. Also, if you end up shooting him instead of talking him into killing himself, the way he looks up at Earth and says "I wish you'd see it like I do, Shepard" really hits you. It's hard to feel disdain for him at that moment when all he really wants to do is save Earth and humanity. Sure he might have been indoctrinated, but a man with that much willpower and strength certainly retains some of his personality.
And I guess in the end I did see it like he did, as my Shepard took control of the reapers, which turned out to be quite the happy ending for me.
Yeah, after playing through the trilogy, I also have to go with the Illusive Man. He is a classic example of an antagonist with good intentions, but controversial/questionable methods of achieving those intentions. Also, if you end up shooting him instead of talking him into killing himself, the way he looks up at Earth and says "I wish you'd see it like I do, Shepard" really hits you. It's hard to feel disdain for him at that moment when all he really wants to do is save Earth and humanity. Sure he might have been indoctrinated, but a man with that much willpower and strength certainly retains some of his personality.
And I guess in the end I did see it like he did, as my Shepard took control of the reapers, which turned out to be quite the happy ending for me.