Villan you agree with

[Mersadeon]

The humans in Avatar, all day every day. If the Navii had played nice at first then we would have taken what we needed and left, but since they went and killed a bunch of humans they made it where they will probably be wiped out by an actual military force that will be sent there almost immediately after the first lot gets back.

I maintain that "Avatar" is the worst movie I've ever seen. And that's a big part of it. If a movie is so poorly written that you cannot get behind the hero, it sucks.

I sorta think that one is ambigous (and as you said, because of bad writing). It's never quite said, if I recall correctly, if the Navi or the humans fired the first shot. However, they seemed to take it as a pretty grave insult that they used Navi DNA (probably not taken from a willing subject) to create hybrid-abominations for the sole purpose of screwing them over.
Also, AS IF humanity would have just taken what they need. Have you SEEN what humans do whenever they get a mildly profitable resource?

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

I'd have to go with Mr. Andrew Ryan from the Bioshock series.

Yes, I get that he is in part responsible for the downfall of Rapture and he does send his Splicer goons and security systems to gank you, but it's Ryan's vision for Rapture that makes me believe that Ryan did what he did with the best of intentions.

He wanted to create a utopia where the common man was cable of making it big without big government, religion, or socialist parties breathing down your neck. Without these binds, technology, science, and the arts took big leaps and bounds beyond anything that could have been achieved in the surface and for the most part, Rapture prospered.

What Ryan didn't take into account is that this 'freedom' that he promised the people of Rapture could easily backfire from people who could take advantage and down right abuse it. It cause a lot of shady dealings and cults to shake up and enslave the so-called freed people within their haven, making war and social disorder inevitable.

Ryan didn't cause the fall of Rapture; he simply allowed it to fester and eventually collapse upon its own ideals.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

How has nobody mentioned Brigadier General Francis X. "Frank" Hummel from The Rock? All he wanted was the families of his men to receive some sort of compensation.

 

[Souplex]

The Locust in Gears of War.

Spoiler: Big Gears spoilers

It turns out that the locust initially were living peacefully underground, until humans using emulsion screwed up their ecosystem. They made peace contact with several human scientists, and asked them to try and fix this. After nothing changed for a while, the locust got sick of asking nicely, and decided to use force to not die.

 

[Shocksplicer]

The enemies of Splinter Cell Blacklist and Call of Duty Ghosts, for the simple fact that the USA of those games DEFINITELY deserved to be destroyed, and were far more villainous than the "bad guys ".

 

[Lieju]

GLaDOS.

Hey, someone needed to get all that science done.

Dr. Horrible (Billy) from Dr. Horrible's Sing-along Blog.
His objective is to enact real positive social change, he believes that this can only be done by a sufficiently intelligent person holding total power over the world.
Honestly I find his basic reasoning to be sound, and an attitude of "you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs" would be necessary to achieve an objective like that, where he fails is in not taking the whole "absolute power corrupts absolutely" factor in to consideration, as well as possibly not having a long-term plan to keep the reins of power in the hands of someone who is willing to do the necessary things for world betterment after he is gone.

And I'm not sure he really is able to enact change.
The man might be agenius when it comes to tehcnology, but how much does he know about stuff like economy or human nature?

It's very easy to be the man with the big ideas, actually getting it all to work is different.

Not to mention he has selfish and childish motives too.
He wants to impress a woman he likes, and take revenge on bullies.

Not that I don't symphatise with the guy, being a huge nerd myself who was beaten up in school by bullies and never had a girlfriend.
I just don't think he is right and capable of doing all that.

 

[Zontar]

I'd have to go with Mr. Andrew Ryan from the Bioshock series.

Yes, I get that he is in part responsible for the downfall of Rapture and he does send his Splicer goons and security systems to gank you, but it's Ryan's vision for Rapture that makes me believe that Ryan did what he did with the best of intentions.

He wanted to create a utopia where the common man was cable of making it big without big government, religion, or socialist parties breathing down your neck. Without these binds, technology, science, and the arts took big leaps and bounds beyond anything that could have been achieved in the surface and for the most part, Rapture prospered.

What Ryan didn't take into account is that this 'freedom' that he promised the people of Rapture could easily backfire from people who could take advantage and down right abuse it. It cause a lot of shady dealings and cults to shake up and enslave the so-called freed people within their haven, making war and social disorder inevitable.

Ryan didn't cause the fall of Rapture; he simply allowed it to fester and eventually collapse upon its own ideals.

I'd also have to agree with you that he wasn't evil in his intent, he was just far to stubborn to admit he was wrong and that his ideal for utopia was impossible and it ended up costing him and everyone else in Rapture their lives.

 

[Rattja]

So I have been watching some Naruto lately...

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Hehe I knew someone would say that =P What can I say, I like the art style and the over the top fights (when they eventually do happen). But I admit I am getting tired of it, and just want to finish the current story arc for closure.

Scorpius from Farscape. Sure, he's done some pretty cruel things over the course of the show, but the Scarrans are kind of a problem that needs to be dealt with, and I don't see anyone else suggesting a better idea.

When you say it like that, I think I have to agree with you. Did not think too much about it as I kept getting distracted by his strange leather suit. Combine that with him strapping a guy to a chair and the word "wormhole" and the mind can go to the wrong places...


Many good suggestions here, and a lot of things I think I have to have a look at.
Come to think of it, I sort of agree with agent Smith from Matrix, in his reasoning that humans follow the same pattern as a virus, cause.. we kinda do.

 

[Moloch Sacrifice]

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Well, actually, he kind of got a lot of people killed. Tzeentch corrupted him while he was in the Warp and used Magnus the Red to breach the wards that were inside the Imperial Palace. With the wards broken, a bunch of warp entities were allowed to get into Terra and killed a bunch of people, thousands of them.

Daddy said no and when his son didn't listen, he got lots of people killed, allowed Tzeentch to establish some control over him that would later fully take over, and weakened Terra somewhat.

OT: Lucifer from Supernatural. He's just so charming and he's got that sass! I can also sympathize with him a bit and understand what it was like for him.

Perhaps, but his intentions were innocent, it was just that he was a pawn in a game that was bigger than he realised (largely due to Daddy not letting him know anything about Chaos). Most of his actions are well meaning, but often misguided. He contacts Terra using sorcery, but this damages delicate psychic experiments that the Emperor is working on. He defends his homeworld from Russ, but he has to swear fealty to Tzeentch in the process. He even tries to prevent his men from suffering from mutation, but it goes wrong and they end up with a few thousand mindless automata. In short, he gets screwed over by everyone (Horus, the Emperor, the Chaos Gods), just for trying to do the right thing.

 

[Rooster893]

I absolutely LOVE Doctor Doom. He is everything I think a villain should be; undoubtedly evil, over-the-top hammy, and has a scheme for everything. But he isn't COMPLETELY evil. Sure, he might be an iron-fisted dictator with an illogical grudge against Reed Richards... but Latveria, the country he does rule with an iron fist, has almost no pollution and crime. In fact, there was one storyline where Doctor Doom actually defeated the Fantastic Four, and he ended up taking over the world. Sounds horrible, right? Well, he actually turned the world into a utopia, and ruled as a benevolent monarch.

So, yeah. Even though Reed Richards is awesome (NOT USELESS!), I will always love Doctor Doom.

 

[Crispee]

From The World's End:

Spoiler

The Network. Their evil plan was to pacify the human race by slightly tweaking their free will to be less aggressive, as well as uploading their brains into identical robot bodies with any modification they want, and then letting the humans join a culture of various alien races, now that their aggression is in check.

Sure, it does involve tinkering with free will, but not entirely, all the Blanks carried on with their daily lives as they were previously, only they were nicer. The only reason they even attacked Gary in the first place was because he smashed the head of one open before he knew it wasn't a human, which as is pointed out in the film, proves that Gary of all people needed it let it happen.

That was probably the intended point though, after all, the story isn't social commentary, the entire story is about Gary's alcoholism, and Gary's refusal of their plan is merely part of this metaphor rather than a comment on the feasibility of their plan.

Also, Mr Freeze from his origin story in Batman: The Animated Series. His evil plan is to bring justice to the man who wronged him, he's no different to Batman besides wanting to kill this one guy. And even then I still think he's justified, Batman may have seen his parents gunned down, but Mr Freeze had to watch his wife die slowly of an incurable disease, and then has to watch her die purely because one arsehole thought Freeze wasn't paying her enough (I think she's revealed to be alive later on, but Freeze doesn't know this at this point), and THEN is caught in an accident so severe that he has to live in Sub-Zero temperatures for the rest of his life. And it wasn't even an accident, the guy literally saw Freeze's wife in pain and still personally tried pulling the plug on her over money.

When Batman appears and saves the guy from being killed by Freeze, I'm always secretly hoping that he lets him die because he's more evil than Freeze ever was.

 

[Silvanus]

All of them except for Two-Face. Don't ask me why, it's just something about him.

Hey, why's that? Two-Face is one of the villains I sympathise with the most.

 

[Scarim Coral]

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If it help you to feel any better, there is a kickstarter from Ankama themself to dub the Episode and to be release outside of France. It make me wonder if they had problem finding some companies to dubbed and release it worldwide?

Spoiler: Kickstarter video

I admit the first half of the video doesn't really repersent the overall series too well but none the less I want they to succeed! In fact that had reach the first two goals already (Season 1 and the Nox special are to be dubbed)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1836563008/wakfu-the-animated-series [ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1836563008/wakfu-the-animated-series]

Also while I did feel sympathy for Nox but honestly I felt it was still his own god danm fault since he could of still walked away from the Elicube to be rejoined with his family but I guessing the Elicube is far stronger than man will (it will be like saying that Gollum could of easily walked away from the One Ring).

Anyway I also agreed with the OP on Madara view/ goal, reality sucks! Granted I can see why not everyone agreed on him (they may oppose him but if his goal came true then they won't remember them oppusing him in the first place) and thanks to Persona 4 message, people should not run away from their problems and to face reality head on than to hide away in their false images. Also Madara is god dam subborm to boot!

 

[TheIceQueen]

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Well, actually, he kind of got a lot of people killed. Tzeentch corrupted him while he was in the Warp and used Magnus the Red to breach the wards that were inside the Imperial Palace. With the wards broken, a bunch of warp entities were allowed to get into Terra and killed a bunch of people, thousands of them.

Daddy said no and when his son didn't listen, he got lots of people killed, allowed Tzeentch to establish some control over him that would later fully take over, and weakened Terra somewhat.

OT: Lucifer from Supernatural. He's just so charming and he's got that sass! I can also sympathize with him a bit and understand what it was like for him.

Perhaps, but his intentions were innocent, it was just that he was a pawn in a game that was bigger than he realised (largely due to Daddy not letting him know anything about Chaos). Most of his actions are well meaning, but often misguided. He contacts Terra using sorcery, but this damages delicate psychic experiments that the Emperor is working on. He defends his homeworld from Russ, but he has to swear fealty to Tzeentch in the process. He even tries to prevent his men from suffering from mutation, but it goes wrong and they end up with a few thousand mindless automata. In short, he gets screwed over by everyone (Horus, the Emperor, the Chaos Gods), just for trying to do the right thing.

It reminds me of a quote from Supernatural. And I know that it's a famous saying elsewhere, but I like how they say it in Supernatural.

"Good intentions. Quick slide to hell, buddy boy." It actually has some merit there since it has the character doing dubious things for a greater goal that ends up causing something catastrophic, rather than being a proverb for laziness.

Sometimes trying doing the right thing doesn't mean what you're doing is right.

 

[God'sFist]

Medusa from Soul Eater and perhaps the kishin himself.

Spoiler

Medusa just wanted to play in a new world order while the kishin wanted to eliminate fear from the world.

The only problem was it would be bought through madness. I would also agree with the empire from star wars the Sith empire or the galactic. And the one I most agree with is me. I murder thousands of people just for laughs and I get to live in my awesome palace. Now if only I didn't have those damned rebels knocking on my door.

 

[Ryotknife]

Cauis from Final Fantasy 13-2

Bear with me here. He is an immortal guardian assigned to watch over this little girl who is basically fated to die at the age of 12 or something and become reborn again (with no memories) and all he can do is watch her die over and over again. There is no way to prevent her from dying at such a young age, and there is no way to stop her from being reborn....

except to destroy the universe.

I mean, yea destroying all life to save one person you care about is definitely a dick move. However, watching someone you care about die is hard. Watching someone you care about who is really young die is even harder. Watching someone you care about who is really young die only to be reborn and repeat this process dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of times is a bit too much to ask of someone. Everyone has their limits, and no person should have to bear this burden. I mean, at the very least the Gods or whatever could have wiped Cauis's memory or had him reborn too.

example 2, Wilhelm from Xenosaga

uh....this is going to get complicated.

Basically, the universe is heading towards destruction. Wilhelm creates a "loop" or reset point where humanity kinda plays out the next X years in a continuous loop, never aware of their situation as their memory is wiped. Wilhelm assumes multiple identities to control and direct mankind so that the loop remains unbroken. He is more than 6000 years old (and he was born a human). While he is emotionless, he does care about mankind, at least as a collective. He is more than capable of acts of barbarism in order to protect humans from themselves.

That is like...the footnotes of the footnotes. Xenosaga is an incredibly complex story that to this day I do not understand. Here is a link to his page

http://xenosaga.wikia.com/wiki/Wilhelm

In the end, he decides to trust that humans can find a way to prevent the collapse of the universe. He doesn't believe they can actually achieve it, but he gives them the opportunity to try. He himself plays a very passive role in things, despite having immense power. You never fight him, nor does he have any desire to fight.

There are many other villains I sympathize with but don't agree with (meaning if I was in their shoes I could see myself doing the same thing)

Judge Nemo from Disgaea 4 for example. If I went through what he went through I would want to destroy humanity too.

 

[C F]

Darth Revan.

I've been around the Star Wars galaxy, and I've seen their weakness. Corrupt leaders fighting for scraps of power, a Republic unprepared to face the threat of a single competent enemy, Jedi espousing philosophies that prevent them from helping the galactic populace in the face of the Mandalorian threat.
*sigh*
They say if you want something done right...

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Caesar from F:NV, Senator McNanomachines and EA executives!

In all seriousness, there is one, but it's kind of a spoiler:

(KoTOR II spoilers)

Spoiler

Kreia: I have to agree with her methodology: both sides are wrong, and there is no point in devoting yourself fully to either one, but there is reward in manipulating the best of both sides to aid yourself and those you care about, which is pretty much the most 'sophisticated'(even though it is almost textbook Taoism) philosophy I had ever seen in Star Wars.

 

[Dismal purple]

Zoltun Kulle in Diablo 3

It could have been YOU who tore down the gates of heaven if you were so inclined.

Instead Diablo happened and then Tyrael proclaimed that angels and man will stand together. Rofl, we don't even need you.

SCREW ANGELS

 

[Crazy Zaul]

The most common one, Magneto is often right and the humans are just being total dicks.