Wait, what? Next-Gen Games Cost £60?
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Oh hahaha. HAHAHA. Thank you for reminding me of how much douchebags the guys who import games in Iceland are. I guess this means the price of games will once again rise higher then they are in the next genarations. As if paying 13 thousand ISK(those wondering it's 110 USD and 71 British Pound) wasn't enough. They're probably going to jack it up to either 14 or 15 thousand(127 USD and 82 GBP) and that would make me a sad Zigzagoon.
I heard about this for a while. However I only thought it was stupid EA going through with it.
Per chance... can you tell us what games they were exactly?
You may just be lucky and just looking at EA games and it's not the same for the other companies.
Per chance... can you tell us what games they were exactly?
You may just be lucky and just looking at EA games and it's not the same for the other companies.
You have to bear in mind that games in the UK have 20% VAT included in the price, which makes the cost of the base game before tax £48.
Another thing you have to consider when you look at prices on places like Play and Amazon is that for a long time, those companies were using a offshore loophole to avoid paying and charging VAT on goods sold in the UK and could pass the savings onto consumers, but now that loophole has been closed (or will be very soon), they can't sell those products tax free and an price increase is to be expected.
It's not so much of a flat £20 price hike, it's more that the stores can no longer avoid paying tax (which they did by sending the games from their warehouses in England to a distribution centre in Jersey, then sending them from Jersey to the customers in England which allowed them to avoid VAT under Channel Island laws).
Also, you never bought a game at the full £40 RRP. For a long time the RRP of games in the UK has actually been £49.99, but £39.99 is the price that the retailers charged, partly to remain competitive with the tax-dodging online retailers like Amazon and Play.
Perhaps there's been a slight increase in the price of Next-Gen games, but officially it's not as much as it appears when you consider all the factors which dictated the price of games in the UK this generation and how things have changed.
Another thing you have to consider when you look at prices on places like Play and Amazon is that for a long time, those companies were using a offshore loophole to avoid paying and charging VAT on goods sold in the UK and could pass the savings onto consumers, but now that loophole has been closed (or will be very soon), they can't sell those products tax free and an price increase is to be expected.
It's not so much of a flat £20 price hike, it's more that the stores can no longer avoid paying tax (which they did by sending the games from their warehouses in England to a distribution centre in Jersey, then sending them from Jersey to the customers in England which allowed them to avoid VAT under Channel Island laws).
Also, you never bought a game at the full £40 RRP. For a long time the RRP of games in the UK has actually been £49.99, but £39.99 is the price that the retailers charged, partly to remain competitive with the tax-dodging online retailers like Amazon and Play.
Perhaps there's been a slight increase in the price of Next-Gen games, but officially it's not as much as it appears when you consider all the factors which dictated the price of games in the UK this generation and how things have changed.
Yes, but VAT has always been included, even when the standard RRP was £40. VAT or not, it's still a massive hike.Jamash said:
Also, while it's true the tax loopholes were closed for Play and Amazon, in Play's case they no longer trade, themselves; it's all done through independent traders, similar to eBay, and I've seen the prices a lot of them offer would suggest to me they are still getting away with it.
A fair point about the real RRP of current gen games being £50 though, I hadn't really considered that because, as you say, nowhere ever charges it. I guess, that being the case, this hike does seem less severe, but, and I can only speak for myself here, if I'm not willing to pay £40 for a game, am I hell going to start paying £60.
Every single game --Killzone, Infamous, Knack, Fifa, CoD: Ghosts, Ass Creed IV, Watchdogs, The Wither 3 (that one's a stonking £67)-- they're all £60 and above. If this isn't a placeholder as some have speculated then it really may be the future of game prices in the UK, sadly.Dragonbums said:
Uh huh, that's fantastic logic and all, but while that is what I currently do --waiting for £40 games to drop down to £20 or less-- if the new standard is £60 then that means the best we can generally expect if we assume the same sales percentages will be £30 at the cheapest; i.e. onlyten quid cheaper than the price I currently refuse to pay, as a rule.gigastar said:
I don't consider that appealing.
Then dont buy the more expensive games at all.rob_simple said:
Or dont buy into the 8th console generation at all and use the money you saved to join the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race.
Or just man up and pay out.
Or give up gaming as a hobby.
Those are your alternatives.
I'd join the PC Master Race if I had the money/time to lose myself in Steam.gigastar said:
As it stands, my plan is to stick with my PS3 and work my way back through the gargantuan number of games from this gen, then get round to what the PSN has to offer.
This thread was really just more out of interest than outrage, if I'm honest.
Guys, I think we are missing the big picture....They try and sell me 2 year old games at near RRP on the PS3 TO THIS DAY, fuck the next gen, I can't get a hold of some games which are sometimes nearing 3 years old for less than £30, Fuck the next gen I say, I still have tales of xillia to look forward to and its sequel, a 3DS, maybe some dragons crown if my pockets are looking plentiful after doing some university funds math, as well as LIBRARIES of games from previous generations I didn't jump into, I got a PS3 about a year and a half ago because the library didn't match, in my mind at least, to the investment of the console till around that date in the sales, we still have CHILDHOODS of games not played, I've never approached the NES Ninja Gaiden because it looks, sounds and has been proven to be a lot of horse shit.....looks like Call Of Duty: Why Isn't This Just A MMOFPS Already or 4k Resolution Over Actually Running At 20FPS or whatever shit has to come in the future won't be desired.
I think it's fucking extortionate to try charge European and UK gamers $90 US or more for games whilst maintaining the same $60 price point in the UK. The problem is that people will go "oh well I guess this new hardware costs more to develop for", even though it costs less.rob_simple said:
The abject lack of commentary from both Sony and Microsoft has ruined their chances of selling me a console until I see reasonable UK pricing on at least the first party software, some third parties such as EA have confirmed that their games will cost £60, but as if I'm gonna pay £60 for half of Battlefield 4.
Instead I'll invest the £410 it would cost me of a PS4 and a game into restructuring my PC. Until I see some sensible pricing on games.
Sorry Sony, you had an advantage until you refused commentary on game pricing outside the US and then denied us preorder security.
Download, install, make account, it takes about 10 minutes and it's pretty easy to just throw all your gaes into your steam library even if they aren't from steam.rob_simple said:
I say this as part of the multiplatform god race but one who is about to just give up on consoles because fuck it, £60 is an insane price to ask for a god damn game.
Edit: Sony confirmed US pricing to be 0.99-60.00, nothing outside of that for first party content. EA has confirmed an MRP of £55 for their content on PS4 and Xbox One whilst Activision has confirmed £60 for Call of Duty: Ghosts.
Sorry but that's more than a 50% price hike over the US just for shits and giggles, we already pay over the odds, they can fuck off.
Edit again: No really, don't pay these insane prices for games. Just don't do it, put the next consoles in the same position as the Wii U and it's £50 RRP for games and see how fast they change their tune.
I think you underestimate the frailty of my laptop...it struggles to run Flash games on the lowest settings, despite only being two years old.SkarKrow said:
I'm considering starting to save for a good PC and by the time I actually have enough to afford one my only problem will be deciding where to start (I'm thinking Bastion.)
I'm with you, friend.ProfMcStevie said:
I am ashamed to say I still have PS2 games in the shrink-wrap, because I simply had too many to ever get around to playing them all; not to mention the fact I only have about ten games for my DS despite knowing there are a fuckton more out there more than worth of my attention.
There is more than enough games already in existence that we could keep ourselves entertained for years before needing to turn to this next generation.
And that's precisely what I hope people will do. Let's show Sony and Microsoft that we don't care how shiny their graphics are when they're just feeding us the same old shit, year after year, but now with £20 on top of the already unjustifiable £40 price tag.
Exactly. I´m PC only, so the price change won´t affect me that much, hopefully, but still. I don´t care how good the game is, it could be the Second Coming for all I care, I´m not paying this much, not even the 50E they charge nowadays. Considering prices of other media, music, DVDs and such, around 25E is pretty much the absolute maximum I´m willing to give for a game. If I have to wait for a sale, then be it...Xarathox said:
They'll come down after a few months. This happened at £50 last gen, if I remember it didn't last more than a year then. Besides Play.com is expensive just try Amazon, they are cheaper on average.
Disclaimer: Not being a PC asshole.rob_simple said:
I'd honestly recommend, if you can make the space (hell put it under your TV), building your own budget PC, it'll do the same job, plays most of the same games and will let you control however you damn well please with bigger acces to the F2P market and more free content in mods and such, not to mention the indie scene. Maybe for £500 or so you can build a pretty sweet gaming PC, I've looked into it extensively recently and it really is easy. My PC is easily a piece of crap, it's 4 years old and 5 out of date including the entry-level graphics card. It runs BioShock Infinite at highr es than the current consoles on mid settings with no hassle.
Watch some tutorials on build, I recommend linus and teksyndicate on youtube for those, and maybe watch teksyndicates budget build vids and do some research at retails like scan.co.uk and dabs.co.uk and aria.net. It really is fairly affordable and given the horrific pricing of games it's looking better by the day to me, and I say this as a lifelong console peasant.
Edit: Honestly, it's really bloody easy to do, and building yourself is affordable, if an ape like me can do it anyone can.
Microsoft has stated that their first party games will remain at $60 in the US, but that doesn't mean every publisher will do the same and it certainly doesn't mean they will do the same in the rest of the world. Microsoft in particular seems to only be concentrating on the US market.prpshrt said:
Excellent, my follow up question was going to be, 'could you point me in the direction of more PC-building information'.SkarKrow said:
Thanks for the advice.
Absolutely no problem, those two youtube channels are great for tutorials and product overviews and advice. It's like a few hours of your time watching tutorials and learning what a few numbers mean and whats compatible but it will pay off once you get it done yourself, then you have your own machine built to your standards that does what you need and most importantly: your games don't cost more than feeding a family of four for a week.rob_simple said:
Edit: Also, consider coming to The Injustice League, if you have any questions you can ask me there and I'll answer, we're also pretty fun guys to just hang out with.