Warhammer 40k vs starwars... is there any possible way for SW to win?

[Christemo]

They're only arguably alive, like GLaDOS, I won't get into the details but it probably explains on Wikipedia. But the Tyrannids, on the other hand are -without a doubt- the perfect life form.

true. then Necs are the ultimate artificial life form. which can swiss-cheese a Death star in seconds.

Many 40k capital ships could do that, if allowed to deploy main armaments, which in fairness is easier said than done for some of them.

true. the motherships of the Tyranids would just goo it all up in poisonous slim and leave it for the crows.

The SMs would just point their gun at the death star and yell "Bang". then the Death star knows what to do. IGs Capital Ships would probably do the same.

Eldar would just see how clumsy and weak it was and blow it up with a Little thing we call the engines of Vaul.

Dark Eldar would just shoot some Dark Matter at it then boom.

Tau wouldnt see it, they would just shoot in practice with their superaim and then boom. done.

Sisters of Battle would just set it on fire and go home. as the shields of terra would easily be able to stop a few bolts of laser from a technically MUCH weaker enemy ship teens can blow up.

necrons would just swiss it up with their gauss guns.

The Daemonhunters would do the same as the sisters of battle.

Chaos would do the same as SMs, but with bigger guns.

Orks would just go PEWPEWPEW on it with their shootas.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

Well it apparently strips away at stuff molecule layer by molecule layer. The thing is shields are comprised of energy so this would have limited effectiveness I think. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Talendra]

I'm not sure but I don't think 40k has an equivalent of the Death Star or LightSabers. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Chain swords and orbital bombardments?

 

[Christemo]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

Force choke isn't the only power the Sith have. Force crush would reduce a Necron to a small disposable cube.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

A Pysker and a Jedi would be evenly matched (see Force Unleashed)

*sigh* read the posts before you.... like, RIGHT before you.
psykers/librariens win

*sigh* read the posts where I tell you that you aren't the fake ultimate showdown authority, and that this inteir thread is a matter of opinion since there is no real basis of comparison for fake people to fight fake people from a different fake universe with different fake weapons. (which I guess would be... this one?)

omg who wins Gordon Freeman or Master Chief?Lulz.

In the land of fantasy, an entity is as capable as it is literarily proscribed to be. Case in point, Pyskers are sometimes portrayed as having great difficulty with their powers, and at others they can liquify brains and summon armies of zombies to protect them. See the Eisenhorn trilogy for that and everything inbetween. Case more in point, in the original star wars trilogy Yoda was da bomb for being able to life a starship. In the prequels, Yoda was the bomb for catching and deflecting pillars.

In Force Unleashed, YOU PULL A SUPER STAR DESTROYER OUT OF ORBIT.

I believe both 'entities' are equally matched in this case. And it becomes true for me, because I believe it. Thus the dillema of fantasy, you can't force your own reality on someone else, only persuade them to go along with it...

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NOW LET THE NERD BABBLE BEGIN

As for Lightsabers, they happen to be a photonic shaft contained in a magnetic casing, the magnetic casing on a lightsaber is what permits it to deflect blaster fire. What Blaster fire is EXACTLY is debateble, Star Wars tech bibles define it as energy cap projectiles in a magnetic casing. The fact it creates a concussive effect, and the scorch marks, suggests particle acceleration to me. I would say a blaster is roughly equivilant to a Stormtroopers Hellgun, and thus superior to a regular IG's Lasgun (same technoligy but a Hellgun is more powerful). Lasguns are called lasguns but their depiction again, suggests particlebursts more then actual lasers, which wouldn't be very rugged or efficient (which Lasguns are described as being). A Lasgun is thus a very powerful particle capgun. Less powerful then even a blaster pistol likly, but the damn things can recharge from almost any energy source even solar power. Ammunition Logistics is the strength of the Lasgun.

Going back to the Lightsaber, the Imperium has a equivilant in the Power Weapon, which utilizes energy in a potent field that effectivly makes it a 'forcefield' sword, it rips apart whatever it comes in contact with. It could repel a Lightsaber and dueling could be had, though a lightsaber is far more elegant and light then a power weapon.

Stormtroopers seem better armored then Imperial Guardsmen, and are slightly less capable then Imperial Stormtroopers which have powered armor. Warhammer 40k armor seems much more rugged then Starwars armor, as it has to cope with highpowered ballistic weaponry as well as magnetic capped energy weapons.

The Warhammer equivilant of the Deathstar is Exterminatus measures, of which are many. One example: Cyclonic Torpedo's, which cause a reaction in a planets atmosphere during all the gasses in it into a raging firestorm, completly scorching the surface of a world. There are also planet cracker weapons which can blow apart worlds. The Deathstar seems to have the edge in firepower though as it destroys Alderaan and there is minimal debries, suggesting vaporization. To me this suggests the Deathstars beam is a cascade weapon that energizes particles and causes them to rip apart, effictivly turning whatever it hits into a nuclear bomb.

Longshort, despite my opinion that the SW universe has more advanced technoligy then the Warhammer universe (in SOME reguards), they likly could not win against such a hyper militarized and massive entity as the Imperium. Or The Forces of Chaos. Or the Necrons. Or the Tyranids. I think they could sure kick some Tau ass though.

PS: Necron Gauss Flayers work by stripping apart the atomic bindings in matter, sucking up that energy like a vaccume cleaner which they then use to feed the C'tan (who used to feed on Stars). They aren't really 'ripping' anything apart so much as..dissolving the bindings that hold it together. Which causes it to rip apart, but hey.

 

[Christemo]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

Force choke isn't the only power the Sith have. Force crush would reduce a Necron to a small disposable cube.

might be so, but can they use it at hundreds of thousands necrons at the same time? i think not. and when if they were mashed together, the metal would return to the necron ships or homeworld and be repaired, only to fight once again by being teleported back to the ships.
if all sith even united against a few thousand necs, they would be skeletons within the minute. granted they not can use "force recreate-flesh-on-so-i-can fight again".

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

Force choke isn't the only power the Sith have. Force crush would reduce a Necron to a small disposable cube.

might be so, but can they use it at hundreds of thousands necrons at the same time? i think not. and when if they were mashed together, the metal would return to the necron ships or homeworld and be repaired, only to fight once again by being teleported back to the ships.
if all sith even united against a few thousand necs, they would be skeletons within the minute. granted they not can use "force recreate-flesh-on-so-i-can fight again".

Mmmm. Interesting dilemma. The Sith could use force push to level all the Necrons. Heavy metal probably doesn't rise that quick. Then use the force to speed up and dice the power-cores. People don't seem to realize the vast uses and applications of the force.

 

[Zeke the Freak]

A Pysker and a Jedi would be evenly matched (see Force Unleashed)

*sigh* read the posts before you.... like, RIGHT before you.
psykers/librariens win

*sigh* read the posts where I tell you that you aren't the fake ultimate showdown authority, and that this inteir thread is a matter of opinion since there is no real basis of comparison for fake people to fight fake people from a different fake universe with different fake weapons. (which I guess would be... this one?)

omg who wins Gordon Freeman or Master Chief?Lulz.

In the land of fantasy, an entity is as capable as it is literarily proscribed to be. Case in point, Pyskers are sometimes portrayed as having great difficulty with their powers, and at others they can liquify brains and summon armies of zombies to protect them. See the Eisenhorn trilogy for that and everything inbetween. Case more in point, in the original star wars trilogy Yoda was da bomb for being able to life a starship. In the prequels, Yoda was the bomb for catching and deflecting pillars.

In Force Unleashed, YOU PULL A SUPER STAR DESTROYER OUT OF ORBIT.

I believe both 'entities' are equally matched in this case. And it becomes true for me, because I believe it. Thus the dillema of fantasy, you can't force your own reality on someone else, only persuade them to go along with it...

Sorry if i came off snide, i may have been a little cranky, But im fairly certain we went through most, if not all, possible ways a psyker and jedi can compare. For a moment, i took you as one of the "drive by posters". Who dont read any of the pages and basically say one thing and never post again. Again, my apologies.

 

[Christemo]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

Force choke isn't the only power the Sith have. Force crush would reduce a Necron to a small disposable cube.

might be so, but can they use it at hundreds of thousands necrons at the same time? i think not. and when if they were mashed together, the metal would return to the necron ships or homeworld and be repaired, only to fight once again by being teleported back to the ships.
if all sith even united against a few thousand necs, they would be skeletons within the minute. granted they not can use "force recreate-flesh-on-so-i-can fight again".

Mmmm. Interesting dilemma. The Sith could use force push to level all the Necrons. Heavy metal probably doesn't rise that quick. Then use the force to speed up and dice the power-cores. People don't seem to realize the vast uses and applications of the force.

u undestand that the metal regenerates, do you? that means they can stuck the lightsabers inside them while another necron beats the sith in the back of his head with the lightsaber-sharp blade on the gauss rifle. BAM and palpatines brains are on the floor. also, the average necron can lift a space marine, who is aprox weighting 1200 pounds. that means that the average necron can indeed swing a sith around like a ragdoll.

 

[Christemo]

WH40K is a darker, grittier universe. I'm no pro at either WH40K nor SW, but it seems that WH40K has a lot more warring factions then SW. Of course, I'm basing most of my knowledge on the movies. In which, I believe, there are only Rebels, Empire, and a helluvalot of small random badguys, bandits and such. And WH40K... Just Imperial forces and Chaos would be enough. But there are also tyranids, necrons, eldar, orks and hell knows how much more stuff.

Oh, and they certainly fucked over a lot more planets/people in WH40K. Or so you'd think.

no. half a company of imperial guard or 5000 necrons should do. why? because both has capital ships capable of swiss-cheesing that fake moon to a death star. its like shooting at a baloon with nailguns.

 

[KaiusCormere]

Stormtroopers in Warhammer terms.
WS 1
BS 1
Str 2
Toughness 2
Armor Save - roll 3 dice, if all come up 6's.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

On the subject of droids do any Necrons have personal shields?

Do any droids magically resurrect on the battlefields?

They wouldn't have to with adequate shields.

Don't necrons have a different type of generic pew pew soft sci-fi lazor rifle? You'd think it would "flay" away the droids shields.

they have. its called a gauss rifle. it "magnetizes" the flesh of the targets, meaning they are a skeleton are some shots. they are driven by the Necrons power core and as such as infinite ammo. on capital ships the Gauss Cannons can swiss-cheese the death star on seconds. and no, they dont have personal shields. the alien metal they use is so tough, it REGENERATES. nvm. the guns wouldnt flay the shields off, they would rip the droids apart. and since the rebels flee as soon as they are wounded, the necrons would only have to shoot a pair of times. also the Pariahs and some Necron lords carry Warscythes, which blade can phase out of reality. meaning that if the pariah chopped at the death star, they could chew it away in a few hours. if u chopped it at vader, it would go straight in his brain, bypassing helmet and everything. Phase Blades are also made of the Necron Materia. and the IG has experienced many times where lasguns (which are by far superior to blasters) just bounced off necrons. a lightsaber is basically a laser with handle, meaning that the only thing the jedis could do was to push the necrons with force. Necrons doesnt need electricity, so lightning is worthless, as it cant hurt them or short curcuit them. u cant choke a necron, because force cant choke something made of metal that regenerates and they cant choke something without a throat, only a neck. so bye bye star wars.

Force choke isn't the only power the Sith have. Force crush would reduce a Necron to a small disposable cube.

might be so, but can they use it at hundreds of thousands necrons at the same time? i think not. and when if they were mashed together, the metal would return to the necron ships or homeworld and be repaired, only to fight once again by being teleported back to the ships.
if all sith even united against a few thousand necs, they would be skeletons within the minute. granted they not can use "force recreate-flesh-on-so-i-can fight again".

Mmmm. Interesting dilemma. The Sith could use force push to level all the Necrons. Heavy metal probably doesn't rise that quick. Then use the force to speed up and dice the power-cores. People don't seem to realize the vast uses and applications of the force.

u undestand that the metal regenerates, do you? that means they can stuck the lightsabers inside them while another necron beats the sith in the back of his head with the lightsaber-sharp blade on the gauss rifle. BAM and palpatines brains are on the floor. also, the average necron can lift a space marine, who is aprox weighting 1200 pounds. that means that the average necron can indeed swing a sith around like a ragdoll.

Yes the Necrons regenerate but what use is that with a destroyed power core? Also the force gives heightened scenes so a Sith or Jedi would be able to react in time to avoid being hit. Also if grabbed by a Necron a simple swing of a lightsaber would disarm the Necron, sure he can regenerate but that takes time.Also there are many, many more powerful Sith that are more powerful than The Emperor. Also you understand the lightsaber would simply slice through the metal and not slow down while going through?

ON another note this is quite fun.

 

[Asehujiko]

Why is it always that 40k fanboys start my universe vs your universe topics and continue ranting that it's " better" then everything else even if it isn't related at all because it would win in a military conflict?

 

[Archaeology Hat]

I think they both sit about even with manpower and materials, but I'll give the win to warhammer just due to the fact they are in a constant state of war.
But I alos think many of you underestimate star wars.

1. There are more then just lasers and what most of you say are lasers are classified as blasters. Blaster < Lasers < Turbo Lasers.
2. Eclipse class super star destroyer http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Star_Dreadnaught
3.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_superweapons
4. Also many underestimate the force and its power. Even tho it does seem to jump wildly in power. The Emperor Palpatine was known to to use his powers to coordinate the Imperial armies across the entire galaxy. Also he destroyed a exlipse star destroyer with the force.

But it is just a opnion fight.

Now I think Star trek is a interesting match up even tho they lack the mind powers of psykers and force users.
Like the handheld phasors seem to be able to disintergrate their target. There goes that pesky problem of necrons fixing themselves. I dont think they can rebuild themselves from dust
The ships have some rather nifty firepower and they can engage and fight at warp speeds. Something SW and Warhammer ships could not do. Also they could possibly do near warp transporter attacks where they place large bombs inside of the battlefleets of others.
I think they dont have planet killers but then again maybe not.
Since it seems its a total galaxy vs galaxy thing how about those damned borg? What happens if they end up getting their hands on some necrons or even a psyker and are able to reproduce that power?
But I think the Trek universe would be lacking in manpower and materials compared to the others.

There are stories of Necrons teleporting home after being liquified, im not sure disintergration would stop them permanently.

The point about the Imperium having not been wiped out by the two unstoppable behemoths (Tyranids and Necrons) bearing down on them is that basically... they are failing to stop them both, along with Chaos. The imperium is in some deep trouble right now. To be honest the Borg would probably end up in a slugging match with the Necrons or Tyranids, perhaps evn Orks, before one side assimilated the other turning into something else entirely and then we'd all be screwed.

Blasters in Star Wars seem to vary in power, some are more powerful than others, the average clone weapon seems to be roughly Hellgun power, Stormtrooper and Rebel kit looks to be somewhat more like an ordinary Lasgun.

Lasguns have been Retconned multiple times, from essentially blasters to actual laser weapons back and forth. At the moment however I think theyre actually lasers.
Power weapons are 40ks answer to Lightsabres, like Lightsabers they have the ability to deflect small-arms fire (see Inquisitor's "deflect shot" ability), and like Lightsabers they are contained in an energy field (which surrounds a soild sword.
Then you get into Lascannons, Multilasers, Plasma weapons, Bolters...

The main problem Star Wars has I think is that if they ever came into contact everything in 40k but the Tau and maybe Craftworld Eldar would immediatly declare war and launch assaults upon it, 40k is so grim and xenophobic that they'd attack Star Wars as Heretics and Aliens without even asking. 40k gets "first strike".

I don't think that the Imperium has the ability to take on the Star Wars galaxy. Remember, it doesn't even have the ability to take on its own galaxy. I do feel however that if you took both of them and put them in an otherwise empty galaxy, the Imperium would win... untill the Psykers created some kind of new Eye of Terror... then everyone is screwed again.

The Tyranids alone are more than capable of killing everyone, it is indeed implied that they've already eaten one or more galaxy, from all of the universes involved. They are without number, without fear and nigh unstoppable. The only reason that the Imperium hasn't been eaten is that the Tyranids have been diverted into a massive war in Ork held space, the Orks being so tenacious and adaptable that theyre just about the only thing capable of stalling so many Tyranids, even then its implied that the Orks are losing a slow war of attrition. Even the Yuuzhan Vong would eventually just get eaten and absorbed, turned into just another strain of Tyranid. (Zoanthropes are Eldar absorbed by the Hive Mind, Tyrant guards, Space Marines...). God help everyone if the Borg and the Tyranids even met... whichever side won would be totally changed and utterly unstoppable.

Most 40k factions aren't a great threat, mainly because they spend more time killing each other than they do the Imperium (Orks and Chaos come to mind). Codex Imperialis of the 2nd Edition stated that the Orks could probably take the entire galaxy for their own if they could ever unite for long enough to do so. Chaos spends more time fighting itself than it does fighting anything else. The last time it united it took the combined might of the Imperium, the Craftworld Eldar and the Necrons to defeat it.

I think realistically if Star Wars discovered the 40k galaxy to be the one next door... they'd turn right round and try and pretend they didn't see it, maybe attempting to steer the Tyranids and the Omnicidal C'Tan away from themselves. There is nothing for any of the Star Wars factions in the 40k universe except for endless war and grief. Same with Star Trek.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

I think they both sit about even with manpower and materials, but I'll give the win to warhammer just due to the fact they are in a constant state of war.
But I alos think many of you underestimate star wars.

1. There are more then just lasers and what most of you say are lasers are classified as blasters. Blaster < Lasers < Turbo Lasers.
2. Eclipse class super star destroyer http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Star_Dreadnaught
3.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_superweapons
4. Also many underestimate the force and its power. Even tho it does seem to jump wildly in power. The Emperor Palpatine was known to to use his powers to coordinate the Imperial armies across the entire galaxy. Also he destroyed a exlipse star destroyer with the force.

But it is just a opnion fight.

Now I think Star trek is a interesting match up even tho they lack the mind powers of psykers and force users.
Like the handheld phasors seem to be able to disintergrate their target. There goes that pesky problem of necrons fixing themselves. I dont think they can rebuild themselves from dust
The ships have some rather nifty firepower and they can engage and fight at warp speeds. Something SW and Warhammer ships could not do. Also they could possibly do near warp transporter attacks where they place large bombs inside of the battlefleets of others.
I think they dont have planet killers but then again maybe not.
Since it seems its a total galaxy vs galaxy thing how about those damned borg? What happens if they end up getting their hands on some necrons or even a psyker and are able to reproduce that power?
But I think the Trek universe would be lacking in manpower and materials compared to the others.

There are stories of Necrons teleporting home after being liquified, im not sure disintergration would stop them permanently.

The point about the Imperium having not been wiped out by the two unstoppable behemoths (Tyranids and Necrons) bearing down on them is that basically... they are failing to stop them both, along with Chaos. The imperium is in some deep trouble right now. To be honest the Borg would probably end up in a slugging match with the Necrons or Tyranids, perhaps evn Orks, before one side assimilated the other turning into something else entirely and then we'd all be screwed.

Blasters in Star Wars seem to vary in power, some are more powerful than others, the average clone weapon seems to be roughly Hellgun power, Stormtrooper and Rebel kit looks to be somewhat more like an ordinary Lasgun.

Lasguns have been Retconned multiple times, from essentially blasters to actual laser weapons back and forth. At the moment however I think theyre actually lasers.
Power weapons are 40ks answer to Lightsabres, like Lightsabers they have the ability to deflect small-arms fire (see Inquisitor's "deflect shot" ability), and like Lightsabers they are contained in an energy field (which surrounds a soild sword.

The main problem Star Wars has I think is that if they ever came into contact everything in 40k but the Tau and maybe Craftworld Eldar would immediatly declare war and launch assaults upon it, 40k is so grim and xenophobic that they'd attack Star Wars as Heretics and Aliens without even asking. 40k gets "first strike".

I don't think that the Imperium has the ability to take on the Star Wars galaxy. Remember, it doesn't even have the ability to take on its own galaxy. I do feel however that if you took both of them and put them in an otherwise empty galaxy, the Imperium would win... untill the Psykers created some kind of new Eye of Terror... then everyone is screwed again.

The Tyranids alone are more than capable of killing everyone, it is indeed implied that they've already eaten one or more galaxy, from all of the universes involved. They are without number, without fear and nigh unstoppable. The only reason that the Imperium hasn't been eaten is that the Tyranids have been diverted into a massive war in Ork held space, the Orks being so tenacious and adaptable that theyre just about the only thing capable of stalling so many Tyranids, even then its implied that the Orks are losing a slow war of attrition. Even the Yuuzhan Vong would eventually just get eaten and absorbed, turned into just another strain of Tyranid. (Zoanthropes are Eldar absorbed by the Hive Mind, Tyrant guards, Space Marines...). God help everyone if the Borg and the Tyranids even met... whichever side won would be totally changed and utterly unstoppable.

Most 40k factions aren't a great threat, mainly because they spend more time killing each other than they do the Imperium (Orks and Chaos come to mind). Codex Imperialis of the 2nd Edition stated that the Orks could probably take the entire galaxy for their own if they could ever unite for long enough to do so. Chaos spends more time fighting itself than it does fighting anything else. The last time it united it took the combined might of the Imperium, the Craftworld Eldar and the Necrons to defeat it.

I think realistically if Star Wars discovered the 40k galaxy to be the one next door... they'd turn right round and try and pretend they didn't see it, maybe attempting to steer the Tyranids and the Omnicidal C'Tan away from themselves. There is nothing for any of the Star Wars factions in the 40k universe except for endless war and grief. Same with Star Trek.

As I think someone mentioned before, SW also has a version of the Tyranids: The Yuzhan Vong. They share many aspects of Tyranids and have a caste system like the Tau. They were also deeply religious and eccentric with their own Gods. They also, like the Tyranids, almost wiped out the Old Republic. But unlike the Tyranids they were able to make alliances.

Edit: Sorry missed a part of your post where you do mention the Yuzhan Vong. But I think there would be a contest between the two.

 

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As I think someone mentioned before, SW also has a version of the Tyranids: The Yuzhan Vong. They share many aspects of Tyranids and have a caste system like the Tau. They were also deeply religious and eccentric with their own Gods. They also, like the Tyranids, almost wiped out the Old Republic. But unlike the Tyranids they were able to make alliances.

They're nothing alike. The Yuzhan Vong are a sentient empire, which was apparently forced into an armistice. The Tyranids are an Implacable and unstoppable swarm. The only sentient parts are the Hive Minds of each induvidual fleet. The Vong creatures bear more resemblance to the Imperium than they do the Tyranids, who are "unstoppable swarm bug aliens".

Edit: I didn't say they wouldn't put up a fight, the Imperium puts up a fight. The problem is that the Tyranids absorb your genetic material and make a creature which has all your strengths, given that all the Vong tech is organic, that means its only a matter of time untill the Tyranids can do everything they can do... but better. The only things that have a chance of untimately defeating the Tyranids as a whole are things like the Borg and the Zerg of Starcraft... and even then its only because they absorb each other and turn into one entity.