was hitler a great leader? bad leader?

[darktau21]

Hitler was a stupid and insane leader. on some aspects he was a good leader but if he did a few things differently we would all be speaking German right now. few knew that Hitler wanted to be allies with the UK. because of this he did not put enough resources into destroying the UK before he invaded Russia. one of the biggest mistakes Hitler made was at Dunkirk where Hitler ordered his men not to destroy the city and to wait. because of this 338,226 soldiers (198,229 British and 139,997 French)escaped German hands because they had 9 days to get out before Hitler ordered the attack. that probably would have ended the war for the UK and France. the second big mistake was when Hitler invaded Russia he ordered his troops "No Prisoners" there have been many occasions where the Russian veterans said that if the Germans took prisoners that the war would have ended very quickly because they would have turned on Stalin and joined the Germans. this would have ended the war in favor of the Germans.

 

[blaqknoise]

He was an amazing leader, he brought Germany from the ground up. But yeah, bad intentions otherwise.

 

[Agayek]

Adolf Hitler was a very skilled politician. He knew how to control the populace, and how to surround himself with competent, reliable and loyal people. Many of his economic/social policies were some of the best in the world at the time (it should be fairly obvious which don't fit the bill). That said, as a military leader, he completely failed. He did not allow his generals free reign, and his incompetence in that area was one of the largest reasons Germany lost WWII.

Long story short, he was an amazing politician, but a terrible military leader.

 

[T_ConX]

You are making an incredibly biased point, and are completely looking past the big picture.

I'm looking past the big picture? Sorry, it's just that TWELVE MILLION DEAD is kind of a big deal.

Hitler raised Germany from the dirt, where no citizens of Germany thought possible.

It one of the sad truths of economics, but few things will jump-start an economy quite like slave labor. The government rounds up the undesirables, and then puts them to work for itself, or rents them out to private enterprises for a pittance. It worked for America in the early 19th century.

 

[Axolotl]

hitler did alot of good and was the leader germany needed, he revitalised the economy, stopped oppression on germany, and conquered territory, sounds like a good leader to me.

No he didn't. Before Hitler took power Germany was in a bad econmic depression. When he left power it was in even worse economic shape, was half controlled by the Soviets while the other half was occupied by 3 hostile nations, over 6 million of it's citizens were dead, it's cities had been bombed to oblivion.

How is that good leadership?

 

[faspxina]

He had good leadership skills he also just happened to be mad

His war council was just as strong as Churchill's the difference is Churchill didn't start ignoring and replacing them 3 years into the war.
Hilter failed when he got lucky and won a single battle and then decided that meant he was somekind of war leader with a better sence of the war than his own military commanders that had actually been doing a fairly decent job in the first half of the war.

So your saying the moment he decided to make up his own decisions was when things started to not work so well for him.

Doesn't that sounds like bad leadership?

 

[Gindil]

Bad leader for all but Germans. His army was quite fragmented which eventually lead to the Allies knocking at the weaknesses. IIRC, the tanks were one division, the air support another division that ALLLL had to go through Hitler to get things done.

In the end, this was a man who loved himself more than anything else.

And let's not forget he invaded Russia in the winter...

 

[gamer3141]

He was a good orator at least and a decent politician, but was a terrible author. He was a good leader in the way that he could make the people love him whilst still screwing them over (even if they weren't jewish. Like women, for example.) and managed to indoctrinate a large proportion of German youth.

However, aside from rebuilding the German economy he didn't do much good for his people. Aside from the obvious, he wreaked hell on German society and had awful views on almost everything.

His sales of "Mein Kampf" beg to differ that he was a terrible author. Also not just the sales the fact that people read this book and after having read it wholeheartly believed that what Hitler was doing was "right". I can't think of any other author in history whose publication of a book had such a widespread effect. In my opinion that makes him an absoulete great author. This of course does not mean that i agree with what he wrote just that what he wrote was so well written that everyone seemed to agree with it at the time.

His book was actually used as literature in school with the start of his propaganda. They also had to sing songs about how great Hitler was.

 

[Misterian]

He, and his essential partner in crime, Benito Mussolini, are both Facist leaders that had a good thing going with their countries.

They both simply went Koo-Koo, left the straight and narrow path with trying to take over parts of Europe and North Africa, and paid the price for it.

If I ever meet Hitler (or Mussolini) in the afterlife, I'd tell them I'm not sorry the Aliied Powers kicked their butts.

 

[wolf92]

He was an extremely good leader!

Then again, so was Darth Vader.

Well said

 

[wolf92]

He was a great leader, and an incredibly good public speaker. That being said he was also a homicidal, racist maniac

 

[The Brewin]

if you ignore everything he did post 1938...then sure.he was fantastic...

 

[Rhiehn]

He got his country bombed to hell and back. Even if you ignore morality, he was still a terrible leader.

His morality got his country bombed.

 

[Darius Brogan]

Good leader doing horrible things but we kicked his a*s!

He really kicked his own ass... I mean, who in their right mind fights a war, unprepared, into a RUSSIAN WINTER! Stupid, stupid idea that cost him the war... Although, the several months the Russians delayed him at Kiev may have played a part... like, a huge part.

It was a lot he wasn't supose to do if he wanted to win the war both against sovjet the allies and ofc he lost a lot helping the italians or starting on über weapon ideas that never saw the light.

Good point, but a superweapon idea that DID see the light was Dora:The largest artillery piece ever, she was just really, really slow, but accurate and powerful.

 

[Communist partisan]

Good leader doing horrible things but we kicked his a*s!

He really kicked his own ass... I mean, who in their right mind fights a war, unprepared, into a RUSSIAN WINTER! Stupid, stupid idea that cost him the war... Although, the several months the Russians delayed him at Kiev may have played a part... like, a huge part.

It was a lot he wasn't supose to do if he wanted to win the war both against sovjet the allies and ofc he lost a lot helping the italians or starting on über weapon ideas that never saw the light.

Good point, but a superweapon idea that DID see the light was Dora:The largest artillery piece ever, she was just really, really slow, but accurate and powerful.

Wasn't that the Gustav gun it was big could fire over... well many miles and many miles more and was really accurate

It's A LOT bigger than it LOOKS on the picture.

 

[Darius Brogan]

Good leader doing horrible things but we kicked his a*s!

He really kicked his own ass... I mean, who in their right mind fights a war, unprepared, into a RUSSIAN WINTER! Stupid, stupid idea that cost him the war... Although, the several months the Russians delayed him at Kiev may have played a part... like, a huge part.

It was a lot he wasn't supose to do if he wanted to win the war both against sovjet the allies and ofc he lost a lot helping the italians or starting on über weapon ideas that never saw the light.

Good point, but a superweapon idea that DID see the light was Dora:The largest artillery piece ever, she was just really, really slow, but accurate and powerful.

Wasn't that the Gustav gun it was big could fire over... well many miles and many miles more and was really accurate

It's A LOT bigger than it LOOKS on the picture.

It may have been, but I remember it being referred to as 'Dora'. And considering that in the picture, it appears to take up two full railway cars in width alone, that is a Fucking huge artillery piece. Would make a good doorstop, or decoration to put at the end of your driveway... if you lived in a 5 million square foot house with a two mile long driveway that is...

 

[BlackStar42]

Well, apart from the whole "mass genocide" thing, he was really misunderstood. I mean, blatant imperialism, stunning incompetence, crimes against facial hair aside- he thought he could invade Russia. Yeah he was a great guy. /sarcasm

 

[Samus Aaron]

Of course he was a great leader. Just like how the government of 1984 was so great too. Sure, it killed those who spoke out against it, kept the proles in a horrible state of poverty and complete ignorance, and eliminated free speech, but apart from that, sure, it had awesome leadership.

 

[ZydrateDealer]

He was a great economic leader...but a very bad man. The genocide shouldn't detract from this; hell if there was a sane version of Hitler alive and kicking today then I'd rather have him in charge than Cameron.

 

[Cheesus333]

If a man can go from soldier to Fuhrer and turn an entire country (and then some) against a single religion... then as irrefutably immoral as his goals may have been, you have to admire his charisma. Good leader, bad man as far as I'm concerned.