Was it prudent of Jennifer Lawrence to take pictures of herself nude in the first place? Y/N?

[Hoplon]

I'd like to point out here, that some people have probably spent more time trying to blame the victims of a crime, then talking of the criminals and their responsibility. I've had to defend women whose private, personal items were stolen, because apparently the real issue here is their responsibility, and not the responsibility of the host servers that were hacked, not the responsibility of the criminals that broke the law, and not the responsibility of the people sharing nude images of women against their consent.

Clearly, discussing how much guilt the victims should own is far more important than anything else. They are women after all.

If she was told it's secure she was lied to.

It's is an image used a lot in Network security, but the only secure computer is one disconnected from the internet, disassembled and locked in a safe. All these things are computers. Never ever assume they are secure.

That said I am not blaming her, she's an actress, not a network admin. But personally i would never recommend storing anything sensitive on a connected device of any kind.

 

[Hoplon]

One of the most disgusting issues here (aside from the theft itself) is how people are talking about it. It's not sympathy or empathy. It's not a suggestion to avoid that server until it is safe. It's not a kind word and some tips you might have on securing your images. It's addressed as what they did wrong. It's pointing the finger at them and telling them what they should have done. It's grotesque.

I agree, she didn't do anything wrong, not in taking the photos, not is storing them. They leaked because some one went after them. She didn't tweet them. Had she known they weren't in a secure place she probably would have wiped them.

 

[RA92]

One of the most disgusting issues here (aside from the theft itself) is how people are talking about it. It's not sympathy or empathy. It's not a suggestion to avoid that server until it is safe. It's not a kind word and some tips you might have on securing your images. It's addressed as what they did wrong. It's pointing the finger at them and telling them what they should have done. It's grotesque.

With that kind of attitude (both this and the other sex scandal thread), I think a large portion of the Escapist audience needs to be redirected to gossip magazine sites. There they'll find themselves in the company of people scrutinizing public figures and trying to find faults to feel better about themselves.

 

[carnex]

One of the most disgusting issues here (aside from the theft itself) is how people are talking about it. It's not sympathy or empathy. It's not a suggestion to avoid that server until it is safe. It's not a kind word and some tips you might have on securing your images. It's addressed as what they did wrong. It's pointing the finger at them and telling them what they should have done. It's grotesque.

And on the other hand I'm wondering how people can not see that all the awareness this issue can be best used to educate people so that they don't become victims in the future.

Sympathy and empathy are great and important but they don't fix anything outside victim's psyche and even that varies from case to case.

What is more worth, not risking to hurt victim's feelings or educating countless people so that they have less chance of becoming a victim in future?

 

[mitchell271]

Maximumble did the perfect response to all the bullshit

 

[Netrigan]

False. The victims had their personal, private items stored on a private, password protected server that was hacked. It's nothing like "throwing it in a random street." That's either a blatant lie, or a grave misunderstanding of the situation.

What it is though is putting sensitive documents in the care of a company whose security you can't audit, whose compensation for leaks is either woefully inadequate or completely waived, who offer no client side encryption and who have been known to cock up security in the past. The truism of using the cloud is that you need to make sure of your own security yourself, because whatever they offer you as compensation will be utterly inadequate.

So I guess credit card fraud and identity theft is the victim not being prudent. Don't they know using their debit card anywhere opens themselves up to fraud. How many times do Sony and Target have to be hacked before people stop trusting companies with their sensitive financial information.

 

[Thyunda]

Was it prudent of Jennifer Lawrence to take those pictures? Probably not. Was it prudent of me to stack a sandwich ten centimetres higher than usual with ham? Also probably not. I don't think 'prudence' has much to do with anything in real life. Is Lawrence a political figure who risks demonisation or a career collapse from this event? No. Did anybody have anything to gain by seeking these out and leaking them?

Aside from high fives.

No, they did not. Jennifer Lawrence, and the other affected celebrities, are entitled to their privacy just as anybody else and honestly, believing that they were somehow at a constant risk of having their private property leaked is nothing short of paranoia. It is not their fault this happened anymore than it is my fault the Saudi Arab pig-farming industry is in dire straits.

But the question is apparently not "Is this Jennifer Lawrence's fault", it's "Was it prudent of Jennifer Lawrence to take pictures of herself nude in the first place?" and now I think this is an exceptionally leading question. Prudence requires pragmatism. There aren't many 'pragmatic' reasons to have private nudes, so naturally it's not prudent to have them. It's also not prudent to butter your bread or own more than two sets of clothes. Those cost money, and you're better saving money. Sure, you might want butter on your bread, but I wouldn't call it 'prudent'.

So OP, not only are you a victim-blamer, your attempt at a politically-correct title was leading and you should change it to something more honest, like "Is Jennifer Lawrence a dirty raging prostitute who deserves everything she's getting, because I certainly think so."

 

[Fappy]

Y'know, I don't really get why anyone would care.

Well, obviously I get why Lawrence would care, but not anyone else.

I mean, despite being a pretty actress, it's not as if she's going to look any different with her clothes off than any other fit young female, and it's not like there's a shortage of those voluntarily getting naked on the internet.

I have never understood the fascination with seeing naked pictures of famous people. Movies boobs I get, but those are a totally different animal XD

OT: She can take nude photos if she wants and no one has the right to hack into her shit and take them. If she's guilty of anything here it was in trusting the security of a cloud database, but I think this is more a case of lesson learned than anything else.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well the only real issue is people freaking out over nudity... news flash, that is what people all are naturally, walking around in clothing is just playing pretend.
But we somehow created a world where our natural form is no longer accepted, we took it so far as to make it illegal to even be seen in public. Which is exactly what fuels the madness that comes with leaked naudes and the madmen who will stop at nothing to obtain them.

But a warning before the time comes when we can be reasonable about this subject: Having your own nudes on the internet no matter how secure is like putting a bag of coke with your address in an office desk believing nothing could ever happen. Sure as long as no one checks you are fine, but the moment they do no one will ever shut up about it again.

 

[Abomination]

Foolish to store nude pictures on a cloud device. Not at fault they were released to the public.

Then again I live by the mindset that if you don't want something of you being seen, don't record it. If you want to show your bits and bobs to one specific person, then show it to that one specific person.

 

[carnex]

You know what, I'm not going to argue this anymore. I'm obviously beaten to a point. I wrote another message here but I really felt stupid for doing that so,

condolences to victims, hope someone uses this to explain their friends that it's not a smart thing to store sensitive data online without properly protecting them.

 

[Netrigan]

You know what, I'm not going to argue this anymore. I'm obviously beaten to a point. I wrote another message here but I really felt stupid for doing that so,

condolences to victims, hope someone uses this to explain their friends that it's not a smart thing to store sensitive data online without properly protecting them.

As recent hacking cases, this applies to everything. You can't even use a card at Target without putting your personal financial information at risk.

I'm sure many of the same people insisting these women should know better than trusting their nude photos with Apple have no problem letting Apple have their credit card info so they can easily buy the latest Metallica album.

 

[AkaDad]

How about "we" stop judging others for what they do in private? That would be prudent.

 

[DrOswald]

Prudent? Perhaps not.

But drinking alcohol isn't prudent. Taking a spur of the moment vacation isn't prudent. Pre ordering a video game isn't prudent.

I get what you are talking about. Risk mitigation. But I have a hard time faulting her for wanting to have some fun.