Wasteland 2 Creator Decries "Awful" Developer-Publisher Relations

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What got me hooked on Wasteland is it felt like the old RPG Twilight 2000 instead taking place over in North America. World War 3 just happened and you need to do what you can to survive. Good times.
ravenshrike said:
Unless he decides to replicate the '50s style grimdark post-apocalypse, no. You can't copyright the apocalypse.
Wasteland and Fallout have their similarities, but their timing is a main key in the difference. The nuclear apocalypse that takes place in Wasteland's story happens in the 80's, something that helped it really strike a chord with the players. Fallout's fanciful idea of WW3 back in the 50's with that technology being more than what it is is great, but it is hard to take that kind of fanciful scifi seriously.
In Wasteland's case, this could actually be you traversing the world during the aftermath, along with some friends. A bit more of the kind of game that can strike a chord with people. Even if it has oversized irradiated monsters.
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GoodApprentice said:
I remember playing and absolutely loving Wasteland as a kid. Fallout 1 & 2 always felt like a natural extension of that game, and I wonder if Mr. Fargo is inviting legal issues from Bethesda by treading so closely to their IP.
As far as copyright issues, I think Mr. Fargo has a leg up considering his IP was in place before Fallout's. You need to pay more attention to the bits about Wasteland being the inspiration for Fallout that keep coming up since the Kickstarter campaign began.
 

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samsonguy920 said:
As far as copyright issues, I think Mr. Fargo has a leg up considering his IP was in place before Fallout's. You need to pay more attention to the bits about Wasteland being the inspiration for Fallout that keep coming up since the Kickstarter campaign began.
Well, if you want to make it sound even more interesting, you could always go with Brian Fargo's Wasteland was the inspiration for Brain Fargo's Fallout.

That's even more interesting.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
Second, I saw that video when he first made the pitch, but what surprises me is that all that was true? He really did have to deal with those kinds of people? How can you love fallout 3 but not know that there was a 1 and 2? And these people are supposed to be in the gaming industry.
It's because of how big the industry has grown... Publishers don't want people who love games they want people trained/experienced at handling and producing more money. It's why the big publishers now headhunt management and execs from other, previously larger, industries.


OT: Had to laugh at the first publisher being 'Metric Driven Games'... if that's not a huge slap at the current state of the industry I don't know what is.

What I think will bear watching is what happens if any of these crowd-sourced games becomes a big hit... because the publishers will start circling if they smell money. They're like sharks but without any of the redeeming qualities sharks have.
 

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I have to admit I kind of want to fund it, just because it seems like this is something Brian Fargo has always wanted to make
 

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Dexter111 said:
The last game with turn-based combat and one "decried" by people to be one of the best examples for it is Temple of Elemental Evil by Troika in 2003.
You should point out that ToEE is also brutally faithful to the notorious party killing D&D module of the same name.
 

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there are a few terrible publishers out there, the worst one being Ubisoft. I just hope that my boss will keep our company independent, working for big companies is a nightmare, the only thing You can count on is being treated like garbage in game dev.
 

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samsonguy920 said:
What got me hooked on Wasteland is it felt like the old RPG Twilight 2000 instead taking place over in North America. World War 3 just happened and you need to do what you can to survive. Good times.
Wow, I never expected to see that one mentioned on here.