Watch Dogs Will Require Uplay on PC - Update
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A while ago I made the decision to buy Far Cry Blood Dragon off Steam rather than ps3 because I wanted the soundtrack legally. Idiotic mistake. Open Steam, wait for updates, open game, open Uplay, then play game also deal with Uplay throwing notifications, and bullshit in my face for trophies and crap. The first install took literally hours after I downloaded all the data through Steam. I don't know why I ever bother with services other than GoG or consoles
It's not a "gamer" thing, it's a pc enthusiasts thing. People like to have control over their systems, especially people spent a lot of money on their rigs, and don't like having content providers give them arbitrary limits to when they can play their games. It's more crap running on your computer. Do you have a car? Imagine if every time you got gas, they only give it to you unless you had big sticker with the company's logo plastered on it and you had to do this for for every franchise. I don't care if it's harmless, I don't want junk on my system. And then there's the inherent security risk that comes with giving your info to a bunch of companies. I had to sign up for Uplay to use a game I legally purchased and how was I replayed? With an email a few months later saying their servers were hacked which means people could have gotten into my email account. It's this "I don't care" attitude that got pc gaming all other forms of digital media into this bullshit situation in the first placekortin said:
I think what everyone is forgetting about DRM is that if they focus on making a good experience for you to play the gaming rather then focusing on prevention you from stealing it, you'll definitely steal it.
One thing that has been proven through out history is that if you give people the freedom to be criminals they will be criminals 100% of the time. If Ubisoft doesn't use UPlay to assert their dominance over yo... I mean protect their property, then you would definitely 100% illegally download this content because you are a criminal. Also its proven science that rules never ever in human history have ever lead to an increase in crime or even slightly encouraged in any way ever. These are facts people.
One thing that has been proven through out history is that if you give people the freedom to be criminals they will be criminals 100% of the time. If Ubisoft doesn't use UPlay to assert their dominance over yo... I mean protect their property, then you would definitely 100% illegally download this content because you are a criminal. Also its proven science that rules never ever in human history have ever lead to an increase in crime or even slightly encouraged in any way ever. These are facts people.
because the PC crowd is the most profitable, as evident by financial reports.Weaver said:
Uplay is a bad service. Origin isnt a bad service. in some regards its even better than steam. Uplay on the other hand is just unstable DRM while not as catastrophic, still closer to GFWL than Steam.Elberik said:
the fact of online DRM in form of UPlay begs to differkortin said:
wow i was about to make a rebuttal till i realized this was sarcasm. well played sir.Kameburger said:
Complete and utter bullshit.Kameburger said:
DRM doesn't stop piracy, there's several titles I'm waiting for to get discounted before I grab them, that I could pirate right now if I was so inclined.
GOG sells nothing but DRM-free games and does well, and I have a bunch of games from them.
Make it worth the money, make it convenient, and people will buy it.
Make the pirated version superior to the retail version due to DRM and you have a problem. There's plenty of games I haven't bought because of the DRM despite wanting the game and them being on reasonable sale(particularly GFWL or Tages, which for example have stoped me from buying Dark Souls and Dead Space 2 respectively). My backlog of legal games is large enough that I don't resort to piracy though.
With the exception of multiplayer centered titles, pretty much everything is available pirated, but they still sell, so your 100% number is pure unadulterated fantasy.
EDIT: Looks like I fell prey to Poe's Law.
In this case, I might wait a few months for the price drop, and the crippling patches to be patched.
Lol partly my fault, but yeah it happens to the best of us.Cerebrawl said:
Totally agree with you though.
I've said it in the past, I'll say it again [a href='http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/271900-28-explain-thread-logical-core']8 logical cores / threads isn't 8 cores[/a], a CPU with 8 logical cores is just a quad core with 2 threads per core, Calling it 8 core makes it sound completely unreasonable and sensationalised.
Anyway, As long as the Uplay integration doesn't get in the way any more than current games like FC3, and GR:FS and has an offiline mode then I'm ok with Uplay, I'd still like it to go away completely.
Anyway, As long as the Uplay integration doesn't get in the way any more than current games like FC3, and GR:FS and has an offiline mode then I'm ok with Uplay, I'd still like it to go away completely.
Ubisoft has used and abused DRM far more than EA has even thought of. When it comes to DRM all publishers are trying to catch up to Ubisoft. Part of ubisofts titles being pirated is because of the invasive heavy handed DRM like FC2's limited number of installs unless you revoke an install which is impossible to do if the HDD failed once, You upgraded your motherboard before revoking(yes major hardware upgrade counted as an install even if the OS or anything else was not changed), and you did the 1 revoke you had left but Ubisoft never registered it because Ubisoft servers are shit. It is bad when legit customers have to resort to piracy just to play the game they legally purchased but that is quite a few Ubisoft customers.themutantlizard said:
Yeah God forbid something other than Steam exists in the PC market. Actively supporting a digital service monopoly, PC gamers these days...thewatergamer said:
ffs, South Park didnt. Im sure i remember they all kinda sniggerd at valve for steam it would never work blah blah blah. Now these fucks are trying to play catch-up and doing a shit job at it. I dont want to have to install Origin and uplay and have steam. There is a sale lost, thanks ubisoft.
The miracle of digital distribution at work...
Make a required service so shitty, so reviled, that gamers will flock to the console version(s) in droves.
I'd say it's sadistic AND brilliant but that would be giving Ubisoft too much credit.
I will grant them this: Ubisoft is at least getting better with their initial offer on PC.
One-time registration is a much better deal than that fucking Always Online bullshit they pulled 3-4 years ago.
Make a required service so shitty, so reviled, that gamers will flock to the console version(s) in droves.
I'd say it's sadistic AND brilliant but that would be giving Ubisoft too much credit.
I will grant them this: Ubisoft is at least getting better with their initial offer on PC.
One-time registration is a much better deal than that fucking Always Online bullshit they pulled 3-4 years ago.
They're not inherently bad. Most online services are marketing data gatherers anyways. The big problem I have with Uplay is how it went down for a whole month in December 2012. I couldn't play Driver: San Francisco then. Steam has never gone down for so long and doesn't block games off with that DRM hurdle.Cartographer said:
Anyone else have problems with Uplay going down for another month? How about Origin? As creativity-crushing and DLC-injecting as EA is, their service might be alright. Also, free Dead Space.