Maybe they wanted to keep the hype going, though cant say i'm not annoyed at the lack of an image of the console.GAunderrated said:Or the price, when it is expected to come out. Basically the whole presentation was more or less a huge waste of time since they created more questions than answers.JokerboyJordan said:After all that...we didn't even see what the damn thing looked like.
I particularly noticed none of them knew what to do with their arms, they just had that arm placement you only EVER have when you are in a slightly awkward situation where you get that "don't know what to do with my arms" feeling.Guy Jackson said:I love how those three "other guys from Bungie" just walked on stage, stood in the background for thirty seconds, then walked off again.
Right at the end it said "Holiday 2013" so this year, around the holidays.GAunderrated said:Or the price, when it is expected to come out. Basically the whole presentation was more or less a huge waste of time since they created more questions than answers.JokerboyJordan said:After all that...we didn't even see what the damn thing looked like.
Funny you say that it was a "necessity" because as a consumer it wasn't for us. It was a "necessity" for Sony to make their problems our problems. I'd rather have simple BC rather than some streaming BS which no offense but judging how slow the console's bandwidth are, I can't see it being a smooth experience.Quiotu said:Well that at least told people what they needed to know. The style of the hardware might still be getting worked out, plus they need to reveal something at E3 and TGS. They'll wait for one of those to show off the hardware, give a precise release date, and give prices.
Most of what they showed off I'm actually pretty excited about. They didn't stumble with too much other than the device seems to want to help me find games a bit too much.
Also, BC through streaming was coming and was a necessity, and everyone knows it. All PS2 games never worked on the PS3 because the hardware architecture was goofy... it made it hard to hack, but a pain to program for, and a nightmare to emulate. PS3 is probably goofier than that, so it was pretty much impossible to get everything emulated on one console.
The streaming solution was pretty much the only happy medium they could do at all, then basically make sure the PS4 onwards will be MUCH easier to emulate with its PC architecture. Remember they had the same issue with the PSP, the Go, and the Vita. It's nice that Sony's at least trying to get BC back in their systems, but there's going to be some system shock involved. They'll have to make the streaming work very well, and then probably eat some profits from it to make people interested in using it. The price point is key to make the streaming work... hopefully they get it right.
So... what, put a PS2 and PS3 in every PS4, make it $1000? You don't get it... Sony tried getting software emulation for the PS2 working, and never could. Only 8 or 9 out of every 10 titles worked, and there were countless glitches. Clearly they saw the problems with their hardware, because the PS4 is PC-based. But they can't retroactively make the PS2 and 3's hardware architecture not suck. It's a pipe dream.GAunderrated said:Funny you say that it was a "necessity" because as a consumer it wasn't for us. It was a "necessity" for Sony to make their problems our problems. I'd rather have simple BC rather than some streaming BS which no offense but judging how slow the console's bandwidth are, I can't see it being a smooth experience.
My thoughts exactly. If they revealed everything they had planned tonight, E3 would pretty much be a wash on Sony's end.Korten12 said:I think people are forgetting about E3. They're probably waiting for that to announce pricing and what it looks like. They just want to get people hyped at it. If they revealed everything now they would have nothing to show at E3.
I'm saying Sep/Oct, so for when the dates released I called it lolAC10 said:Right at the end it said "Holiday 2013" so this year, around the holidays.GAunderrated said:Or the price, when it is expected to come out. Basically the whole presentation was more or less a huge waste of time since they created more questions than answers.JokerboyJordan said:After all that...we didn't even see what the damn thing looked like.
Again that is Sony's problem not the consumers. They decided instead of making it work they would put their problems on the consumer and I can't support that.Quiotu said:So... what, put a PS2 and PS3 in every PS4, make it $1000? You don't get it... Sony tried getting software emulation for the PS2 working, and never could. Only 8 or 9 out of every 10 titles worked, and there were countless glitches. Clearly they saw the problems with their hardware, because the PS4 is PC-based. But they can't retroactively make the PS2 and 3's hardware architecture not suck. It's a pipe dream.GAunderrated said:Funny you say that it was a "necessity" because as a consumer it wasn't for us. It was a "necessity" for Sony to make their problems our problems. I'd rather have simple BC rather than some streaming BS which no offense but judging how slow the console's bandwidth are, I can't see it being a smooth experience.
Weird, I don't feel bad at all. Maybe because I don't think that it's stupid to want to know these things instead of listening to some people circlejerk about unnecessary features the whole time.Quiotu said:Then... you're kinda stupid, thinking they'd blow their wad about their console 9 months before it's probably coming out, with TWO game conventions coming up.Beryl77 said:Dear god, I didn't even know that it was possible to put so many buzzwords in just two hours and give us so little information. All I wanted, was to see the damn thing, know it's specs and the price.
Seriously, you should feel bad.