We Are Our Avatars III (Ended!)
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"Then, I'm prone to agree with Gwen. No evidence means I don't believe a word. Ever consider that maybe you're wrong? Do you blindly believe that every vision you have will come true? You're no better than some fool claiming that God will assist him or defeat their foe. You have absolute faith, but no proof."
<color=purple>"Pfft... you give us a vision through your divination arts, and then you say 'It's all good even though we have NO evidence to support it.' Sheesh, can't you guys think about the validity of what you've seen? Debate about it? Question it before you execute your plans without asking?"
"As a cleric, I'm not one to question faith as a motivator...but to base your decision to kidnap and imprison someone on a vision seems...ill advised." Grace said, trying to be tactful. Gerry continued to sob quietly.
"I once dreamed I was eating a giant marshmallow... [small]Turned out to be my pillow...[/small] But the point remains, 'Never drink 20 Liters of Pop before bed!' [small]wait no that isn't right...[/small] Ah ya! Just because you can imagine it, doesn't mean it's going to happen!.. [small]Unless you're me...[/small]." Joe rambled.
"My visions have yet to steer me wrong in life so far. And of course we do not act blindly, do you think us imbeciles? Since I first received the visions, we've been keeping careful watch on Four. She has shown no signs of swaying from the path that will lead to this future. My visions of her date back to her very arrival, and she has shown no deviation at all from that which I have predicted she will do. This future will be inevitable if I am not allowed to continue helping her."
"If you are so certain of your visions validity, would you be so kind as to tell us how, exactly, Four becomes the monster you claim she will be? Is there any one point you can tell us is the tipping point?" Grace asked.
Gerry had finally calmed down somewhat.
Gerry had finally calmed down somewhat.
"Do you really want me to answer that question?" Jio says as he leans forward. "Perhaps, you fail to take into account her own will? I was always told by those that sought his power, that I am Satan. Most of them didn't even call me by my name. They insisted that we were one and the same and that I would give in to his power. Even he said so. But, guess what. They were wrong. And so are you."
Jin simply watches the old man looking for threatening actions.
Jin simply watches the old man looking for threatening actions.
<color=purple>"We've never seen you until this moment. How do we know that you're lying? There are many factors and threads of fate that you're playing with here that you may not be aware of. Carl Sagan once said 'If our lives are being controlled by a bunch of traffic lights in the sky, why bother doing anything anyway?' So the question remains, how do you know what you're doing is the right thing? What if you're interfering with the outcome? And what's the point in doing something if you know it's going to happen anyway? Have you envisioned the outcome of what you're doing yet?"
Diane loosk at him.
"Then why don't you come with us? And know this, a vision can be interperted in many ways: For one thing, for all we know, a gray pony killed them all, and tried to drown Four in everyone's blood, and that was a bonfire and her paying her respect to the dead. Did you not see the tears in her eyes?"
"Then why don't you come with us? And know this, a vision can be interperted in many ways: For one thing, for all we know, a gray pony killed them all, and tried to drown Four in everyone's blood, and that was a bonfire and her paying her respect to the dead. Did you not see the tears in her eyes?"
"Sorrow. She has lost much, and will only continue to lose more. Eventually the weight of her loss will snap her psyche and make her nothing more than a deranged killer." Jonathan answered Grace. "I am interfering with the outcome of my visions. Hopefully for the better. The outcome of my actions is that Four will be set free, if she proves mentally sound enough to re-enter society." He said to Gwen.
He leaned back in his chair and said to Diane, "I understand the meaning of my visions. Did you not see her grin with glee at the sight of your dead bodies?"
"Perhaps the cleric is right. I will allow you to visit your friend. Then you shall see that I am not a heartless man." He said after hearing Kalin.
He leaned back in his chair and said to Diane, "I understand the meaning of my visions. Did you not see her grin with glee at the sight of your dead bodies?"
"Perhaps the cleric is right. I will allow you to visit your friend. Then you shall see that I am not a heartless man." He said after hearing Kalin.
"I think I would like to see this woman for myself, yes." Grace said as she stood. Gerry did so as well.
<color=purple>"The word 'hopefully' does not mean the outcome is assured in this situation. What you've stated so far is that you've watched Four all her life, given us a horrifying vision with no evidence to support it, and then you agreed upon my statement about interfering with the future saying it will probably get better after what you will do. That does not sound like a sure tactic. Try harder."
This is exactly why divination, horoscopes, and astrology are a thing of the dark ages and should be left to its grave.
This is exactly why divination, horoscopes, and astrology are a thing of the dark ages and should be left to its grave.
"You're still interfering with her life and imposing your will on her. And you've already said that you may not release her if she doesn't live up to your expectations for mental state, but you have set no guidelines, and how does one judge such a thing? I see no difference between you and Miko. And you've caused pain and distress for many others. Have you considered the possible outcomes of that?"
OoC: Rose, Conall, and Asha weren't taken, right?
OoC: Rose, Conall, and Asha weren't taken, right?
"I'd like to see Four, just hold off on the visions alright... I can't do that all the time..." Joe said as he got up with Grace.
"Then what would you have me do? Sit on this information and wait for her to snap and kill you all?" Jon asked Gwen. "With centuries of experience I judge such things. And I have seen all other possible outcomes. My actions have been taken to ensure the best possible outcome comes about for all." He said to Jio.
He stood up and replaced his hat. "Now do you wish to see Four, and hear how she feels about this?"
@Salty: No, they're still around.
He stood up and replaced his hat. "Now do you wish to see Four, and hear how she feels about this?"
@Salty: No, they're still around.