What if instead of video games he read books during that time. Would that be reported, I wonder?
Plentyoffish.com, eventually, someone will go out with you man, I thought the same thing, I have been on dates with 5 diffrent people in 4 months, one went for over a month, but yeah, it works, be wary of those with multiple profiles though(they are crazy)antipunt said:Soo...this guy can reproduce, but I can't find a date.
*forever alone*
Well that's not... he has no right to kill a defenseless infant.The7Sins said:Honestly I'm ok with this. The dad helped bring the kid into the world. He should have every right to take him out of it whenever and however he wants.
Also I hate kids so stories like this give me warm fuzzies inside.
Your in denial, one of the few things enviromentalists are right about is dwindling resources. They really aren't kidding about the rate at which rain forests (and forests in general) are disappearing, or how The Middle East is inevitably going to run out of oil at the rate of current consumption, never mind if it raises production to meet increasing international demand from nations like China. Then you have things like metals, and the sheer number of mines that are getting tapped out to meet demands for ore, leading to people trying to find more mines, and when that isn't possible literally tearing into the planet for trace elements that can be extracted, which also hurts the abilliy of the planet to produce new veins of ore and replentish what was tapped out to begin with.Abandon4093 said:Therumancer said:To be honest with overpopulation I've been a big fan of mandatory, reversible sterlization on all people in the USA or anyone living here, and requiring people to get permission from the goverment to have kids, which would be granted only after being able to prove the abillity to support them, and an appropriate amount of parenting knowlege before the birth.
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We DON'T have an overpopulation problem and we never will. To say that we have or are going to have is to completely misunderstand how population demographics work.
What we have is a population distribution problem and in the western world, an ageing population.
Neither of which could be solved by a sterilisation program. And it would actually make the latter worse.
That's not to say I'm completely against the idea, I think there should certainly be some sort of standards test that has to be taken before being legally allowed to have a child. Taking into account mental health and monetary situation aswell as testing basic parental knowledge.
But that's not to solve some mythical population problem, it's purely for the well being of the child. Because far too many children are born into abusive, neglectful and incapable homes. And in all truth, some sort of agency could probably have predicted it in most cases.
Not quite sure how such an agency would operate. But one can but dream.
YES!!! Espesially with the Zimmerman thing, the biggest SO population I know of, that place makes me sick.DVS BSTrD said:Don't ban videogames!
BAN FLORIDA!
If we don't want to think about the morality of it, it's a better policy to kill of the old people then killing of the young people and destroy our environment to get all the resources.Therumancer said:I see it as being nessicary, simply because if the population does not decrease drastically we're all dead. It's easy to make arguements about why we shouldn't do something extreme like this, but in the final equasion we're running out of resources, it's not a matter of production and producing enough stuff, but that things like wood, oil, metal and similar materials are being depleted faster than the planet can recover, and in the effort to sustain the current usage we're crippling the planet's abillity to replentish them at all through things like strip mining.gunner1905 said:I know this is off topic, but people like you who wants that kinds of laws should really do some reading about population and productivity. I agree that overpopulation is a problem if productivity of the people is not increased, through technology or education, but your idea of decreasing the younger population is dumb because old people are living longer, less young productive people are born (no matter what you think of someone, they produces something through participation in the economy), over time it increases the number of people that needs to be supported (old people) over the number of productive people (young people). See the Europe (especially GB) and Japan for real life examples.Therumancer said:To be honest with overpopulation I've been a big fan of mandatory, reversible sterlization on all people in the USA or anyone living here, and requiring people to get permission from the goverment to have kids, which would be granted only after being able to prove the abillity to support them, and an appropriate amount of parenting knowlege before the birth.
Also do you really want someone else violating your body without your consent.
OT: The guy's dumb.
You are correct, what I propose would absolutly suck for a while, and would cause a number of problems that would have to be dealt with, quite probably with extreme brutality, in ways that would be offensive to current morality. It is however the right move in the long run. At least for a generation or four we need a massive decrease in the global population and then to stabilize it at that level.
As far as not wanting the goverment (or anyone else) modifying your body like that? In my opinion that's tough cookies. People knew that we needed ZPG (Zero Population Growth) generations ago and instead the population continued to expand. Like it or not, people have generally proven to be incapable of holding back their reproductive urges, so thus society as a whole needs to step in if the problem is going to be dealt with.
A lot of what I say is VERY nasty, and to many (on this subject and others) I seem like the devil. The thing is that it's all about the big picture, not simply the immediate effects over the next few years or even decades, but about what needs to be done when you look at things in terms of hundreds or thousands of years.
Sure it sucks to see a small young generation, and a huge old generation, and then to have to realize your going to have to basically leave those old people un-supported or dispose of them for a generation or two until society adapts to the much lower birth rate, but that's a comparitively small price to pay in the overall scheme of things, if we wind up depleting the world's resources we're going to wind up destroying ourselves. I could go into it point by point, but really it's not the time or place. It's something that has come up for discussion in the past.
In general this, and a lot of my personal politics and idealogy comes down to reality sucking, and trying to pretend that it doesn't just makes things worse.
I've always had a problem with that site. Only one date after two years on there.mattttherman3 said:Plentyoffish.com, eventually, someone will go out with you man, I thought the same thing, I have been on dates with 5 diffrent people in 4 months, one went for over a month, but yeah, it works, be wary of those with multiple profiles though(they are crazy)antipunt said:Soo...this guy can reproduce, but I can't find a date.
*forever alone*
Oh man, you're so edgy and cool. I wish I could be like you.The7Sins said:Honestly I'm ok with this. The dad helped bring the kid into the world. He should have every right to take him out of it whenever and however he wants.
Also I hate kids so stories like this give me warm fuzzies inside.
In the last few weeks... yeah... I've heard of nothing but bad coming from Florida...DVS BSTrD said:Don't ban videogames!
BAN FLORIDA!
Oh I am so there with you.Therumancer said:To be honest with overpopulation I've been a big fan of mandatory, reversible sterlization on all people in the USA or anyone living here, and requiring people to get permission from the goverment to have kids, which would be granted only after being able to prove the abillity to support them, and an appropriate amount of parenting knowlege before the birth.