Weird Razer Ad Promises PC Gaming Is Not Dead

[The_root_of_all_evil]

And a film is a film. So Transformers 2 and Citizen Kane are the exact same.

I thought we were talking about how many PC gamers there were.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

... they mean nothing to you.

They mean PC gaming isn't dead. Which means they're quite important to me.

The 4 million on Steam last night mean that much more.

 

[ripdajacker]

I think it's a problem with the trend in the industry today. PC gaming is dying because PC gamers have different standards.

A console game can get away with semi-poor graphics, lack of options, mods etc. A shoddy PC port rarely catches momentum, but it earns the developers money by the massive console sales.

The publishers will probably use piracy as an excuse, maybe the smaller market, but in the end they are missing out on a potential market where the buyers have more disposable income (PCs cost potentially a lot more money).

It's plain sad, but then again I have had a lot of fun times playing consoles.

OT: Nice little marketing campaign, but their keyboards will NEVER beat my Das Keyboard!

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

In one ear, out the other. Fine, pc gaming is not dead. PC gaming now stands for lower standards, no story, no innovation, no player respect, no player choice, no mods, and nothing but products designed to treat you like a lab rat, but pc gaming is not dead.

You remind me very much of a certain person who hates sex even though he's never tried it. You should see the rants he makes against it while the rest of us enjoy it.

But try the indie side of PC gaming one time. You know, like Bastion. Or Amnesia. Or Dwarf Fortress.

That's where PC gaming started, and it's never even got a cold.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Thats adorable. They're actually so desperate they need to include the farmville numbers. Okay, fine, we console gamers concede that PC gaming is the best medium for giving the creators of substandard timewasters like Zynga money for some of the shoddiest games and most evil behaviour gaming has ever seen.

There are avenues to prove the validity and worth of PC gaming, but as long as Zynga exists, numbers is definitely not one of them. And not giving context to those numbers just makes you look like a liar.

Well stuff like the existence of mods, the numbers on Steam and Xfire, MMOs, vibrant communities in games that would have died years ago on consoles, a much larger indie community(Call of Cthulhu sold more in 1 week on Steam than in whole time it was on console indie market.).

You know what is funny handheld market is bigger than consoles so yes numbers aren't everything but there other indicators which you are ignoring. Yes there Farmville and stuff are "games" they are Social games that you play while you wait for people to message you on Facebook and I've never heard people let a child die due to Halo so that must mean those people are more "hardcore" than console gamers. Something a vocal of the community is so obsessed with.

In one ear, out the other. Fine, pc gaming is not dead. PC gaming now stands for lower standards, no story, no innovation, no player respect, no player choice, no mods, and nothing but products designed to treat you like a lab rat, but pc gaming is not dead.

Console gaming is much better in these regards? Kotick wanting to charge a sub for CoD, paying for online full stop, so many AAA games so little to no innovation. There is plenty of all of the opposite of that on PC just in other places there are always stagnant portions on every platform and genre.

....did you suffer some form of blackout and now think this is a totally different conversation? "Try Bastion. That game that was on the 360 and also has nothing to do with Facebook gaming which is what we were talking about."

But, yeah, try the indie games on XBLA and PsN. What, if anything, is your point, and how does it relate to how accepting the facebook PC gamers means you must accept everything they mean for PC gaming?

Yes there are indie games but see my point on Call of Cthulhu and there are many other games like this. Given that there is a large number of console gamers out there a large proportion of them seem to not give a fuck about the indie market as fuck all people bought Call of Cthulhu comparatively speaking to PC sales.

 

[graverobber2]

someone has been watching too much V for Vendetta

 

[DTWolfwood]

Publishers are trying very hard to stamp out PC gamers. You know they think we are all criminals. Even the ones that actually buy their games. lol

That switchblade looks freakin' sweet tho. Wonder what the resolution is gonna be.

 

[RadiusXd]

someone has been watching too much V for Vendetta

remember remember the 5th of november....

 

[ph0b0s123]

I hope it is something better than a switch-blade announcement. Not that the switchblade does not look good, but releasing a netbook with a fancy keyboad does not really show that PC gaming is not dead (their words not mine). Or justify full page spreads in papers saying what they did.

Also a new line PC's will also be disappointing, as I don't think that will 'save' the PC market (if it needs saving). Haven't we already been down that road with Alienware?

For the PC gaming being dead discussion, I have had this too many times, so I can summarise the situation as follows.

The PC market is not dead by any stretch, it is just that devs now no longer spend any time building games that play to PC's strengths, so the PC has not much change at differentiating itself from other formats. Until this changes, even though by no means dead, the PC gaming market is just as not healthy as it could be....

 

[robert022614]

They are going to announce that someone actually bought the Hydra?

 

[Thoric485]

Though the things said in the campaign are true, i don't see how overpriced gaming apparel would help with that.

 

[Mike Fang]

*looks at Steam*

Seriously, who the hell thinks PC gaming is actually DYING?

 

[Babitz]

Yeah, I'm with you. PC gaming isn't dead/dying.

Does anyone even carry that view anymore?

I'm a PC gamer, and I find this whole thing very silly.

Give the option of Keyboard and mouse on and a console and the term "PC gaming" will become extinct and the proper term will be "Gaming"

Except for consoles still being closed systems and with crap backwards compatibility.

 

[Doom972]

That is going to be an eventful day. I hope I'll remember to check on it when the time comes because I'll start playing Deus Ex: Human Revolution about 5 hours before that (On my PC of course).

 

[OldNewNewOld]

Awwwww... I was hoping for a Glados-like voice.

 

[theultimateend]

As a console gamer by trade who has recently bought a gaming computer, I sure hope PC gaming isn't dying out!

Also...

300 million?...Where they heck do they get that number? Yes, there are a lot of PC gamers. We already knew that, but 300 million is an EXTREME stretch.

Well, given there are 1 billion gamers in the world... [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.160475-EAs-Riccitiello-Over-a-Billion-Gamers-in-the-World-Today], it doesn't sound quite that much of a stretch.

In fact, it's only .3% of all gamers...pretty low really. Depending on what version of a billion we're using.

Lets say 1 billion is 1000 million. Even if PC gamers consist of 300 million, the article says that there are more PC gamers than console gamers. That leaves at minimum 400 million gamers who don't play on a PC or Console, the majority.

So what do that majority of gamers play on?

DS.

Oh yeahhhhhh.

Wish they'd move to 3DS, I need folks to help me save myself. (It's a minigame...)

Consoles, on the other hand, for all their being a bit old in the tooth, allow us to simply turn it on and play with the game already mostly optimized to the system it's being played on and with all the comfort of a huge ass tv and sofa. To me, the graphical trade off (and what, are we going to say that console games this days don't still offer us amazing visuals?) isn't enough to justify the hassle of having to buy a whole new pc just to have tesselation on Deus

30 or so modern console games in my house. Every last one had a day 1 patch and most have had multiple patches.

and the PS3 patches slowwwwww, even on N or landline.

 

[punipunipyo]

Though I AM buying MORE titles for PS3 than PC... in fact... my last PC purchase was Bioshock 2, and all the games after that were all PS3... simply because My computer is too crappy to run ANY new games out there... I am a big action gamer, shooter to be exact... I HATE using pad to aim, I still like playing with mouse and keyboard, and I still like when games allow me to tweak my gaming experience to my desire/habit, if console gaming could offer me that... I'd consider my self to be a console gamer anyday... but that's not happening... so... my thing now is that I will endure the stupid pad aim... but the moment I get an upgrade (I mean the entire mother board, CPU, AND graphic card...etc), I am going to start buying PC games... simply because I like mouse aim better...but for now... I have to endure Deus Ex with stupid pad...

 

[Kenji_03]

Haven't been worried since MovieBob made his video regarding the subject.

 

[8bitlove2a03]

Why did they rip off V's speech from the first act of V for Vendetta? I don't understand. How hard is it to write an original manifesto?

 

[honeybakedham]

300 million?...Where they heck do they get that number? Yes, there are a lot of PC gamers. We already knew that, but 300 million is an EXTREME stretch.

Really?

There are about 350 million people in the United States. But gamers include those in the US, Canada, Central and South America, all across both Western and Eastern Europe, Africa, The Middle East, Australia and New Zealand, and the Asia Pacific Rim.

And yes... people game in Africa. There are modern cities and nations with an infrastructure that supports modern Internet based PC gaming. Same in Brazil, Macedonia, Israel, Mexico, and many other places you can name. South Korea boasts a fully functioning and profitable professional gaming industry. Russia is the home of STALKER and plenty of other successful PC titles. My point... it's global.

300 million out of 6.5 billion... that is a very believable number of PC gamers.

I'm not even counting Chinese prisoners forced to gold farm on WoW.