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Currys PC World.
Seconded. I bought a laptop from them a few years back - looked online, found a deal that worked for me and tried to buy it. The website had issues and wouldn't complete the transaction, so I phoned the store that had it in stock, asked them to hold it for me and what time they closed, gave them my contact details at their request, then got in the car. Since it was a good deal (using up the last of the stock kind of thing), the nearest store was just over an hours drive away, but I got there before they shut. When I asked a member of staff to help, they claimed they "didn't do phone orders"...I found another, more helpful member of staff who asked around and found the person I spoke to, who came over very sheepishly and said that as soon as we'd finished speaking, they'd gone to get the laptop and realised they'd been looking at the wrong one on the system - they were completely out of stock.

Now, this kind of thing happens, not the end of the world, although I was pretty annoyed that they'd made me take a two-hour round trip to find out rather than call me back when they figured it out. But whatever - I made arrangements with them to get the laptop transferred from the nearest shop with stock (several more hours drive away and no delivery option) and went home. When the expected arrival date came by I called to confirm they'd received it before driving over - however, not only had no laptop arrived, there was no record that I'd requested one, and now there was no stock left in the country. Pretty angry at this point, I chalked it up to a poorly staffed store and gave up on that model.

I went to my local store and shopped around for the next best deal (I needed a laptop pronto), bought one and since I'd had issues with the last one I put down for the "tech experts cover" kind of thing - something goes wrong, call up and they'd sort it for you, either hard- or software, for something like £8 per month. 2 months later when the fan completely stopped turning I called the number on the leaflet - which didn't connect to anything! I checked the website, for which my login credentials didn't work at all, then phoned the customer service number to find out what was going on - they didn't have a clue. Finally, I cancelled the cover and have not set foot in a store/visited the website since.

Phew, that was a long one :s
 

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Paypal just screwed a friend of mine over, same friend who incidentally works at a walmart, which is the only decent place in town to get blu-rays. If I don't feel like ordering of Amazon anyways.

I will say, there is one restaurant in Regina called Cravings that my family will never go back to, I ordered an Iced tea to drink, as is my usual, drank it within 30 seconds, waited patiently for a refill that never came.

When the waitress was questioned as to why I never got one, I was told it for pop only, and when asked why the hell that was, a manager happened to walk by and yelled out something about Iced Tea being to expensive. uh huh. Right. I paid 4 bucks for a lgass of Iced Tea that was half ice, and it was because its to expensive. uh huh. I think, staring at a 2 litre bottle I bought for a dollar from literally ANYWHERE THAT SELLS ICED TEA.

So if you're ever in Regina, SK NEVER go to Cravings.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
When I moved, it took them a day to transfer over the line (something that has a ETA of a week to do) and that's the closest thing to a bad interaction I've had with them.
When I was burned out of my old home, it took them over a month to transfer my service.
Oh, and when I moved into the place I would eventually get burned out of, they billed me twice through autopay and still cut me off three days into the billing cycle. It took me two weeks to get that ironed out. Fortunately, I was living about 30 feet away from an internet cafe.

I don't blacklist companies as a general rule, but I would ditch Comcast and never look back if they weren't effectively the only game in town here.

I once sent THQ an email saying I was done with them until they changed their policies. I never again bought a THQ game (under the ownership of THQ, I bought a couple after they went bankrupt), but I would have if they had changed.

So Comcast and THQ. Sort of. Except I have to do business with one, and would have with the other if some of their practices changed.
 

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Graingers games (I think it is called Trade Nation now) as I bought the game Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess from them as a present for my brother for passing his exams. The game was sealed with a sticker so I trusted it and took it home with me and gave it to my brother. When he opened the game box we found that there was Don Bradman's Cricket in there instead, so my brother and I went back to the store with the receipt and explained what happened and they initially refused to change it for us as they said I should have checked the game before I left the store. It was through both myself and my brother asking to see the store manager to get our money back for us to get the game my brother wanted to begin with. I know it was probably an isolated incident, but it is sometimes enough to deter someone from purchasing something from a store.
 

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Normally no, but I actually do have a case where I refuse to go to a certain convenience store. Of course, that doesn't sound like much. But the place was decently priced, decently stocked, and was a 5 minute walk from my apartment. The younger workers there were always ok with me buying something, and asking for specific change for laundry money. I mean, I paid for stuff, I handed $5, just needed loonies and quarters specifically. But, the grumpy old man owner there had the biggest issue with that.

I always ask if I can get specific change, even when I know I can, just to not be rude and throwing it on them mid transaction. I asked him first, he said "No, we're not a bank" and I said "Even if I am a paying customer, and hand you a large enough bill, I can't get some specific types of coins?" His response? "Go downtown and go to one of the banks! We NEED that change!" I gave him a look, walked out saying "Whatever ya say, gramps."

Yes, that last bit was petty. But don't bullshit me, old man. Don't act like those 4 quarters and 2 loonies are the only things keeping your damn store alive. I am the paying customer here. I have been loyal to you for 9 months after moving here. YOU are the one who should be accounting for customers who need that change for their own purposes as well. YOU are the business with all the money coming in, and out. Call me entitled all you want, but I would have been ok with a "Sorry, I can't do that for you." Instead I got some grumpy toned, piece of shit attitude from the owner of the store. Was the first time I ever made a negative review for a business. And it's the only review on their page. The one rating you see Googling them. Fuck you guys.
I usually agree with a lot of these stories but you're just wrong. He has accounted for giving out change. He doesn't need to account for you wanting specific change. Taking large bills is a headache for a smaller store all the time. And if there is no bank nearby where you could get your correct change, it means he may have to make extra trips because you're lazy. He's absolutely correct that he is not a bank. Also, you escalated the situation when he said no. And you have the grumpy toned, piece of shit attitude in this transaction, not him.
 

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09philj said:
Artina89 said:
Graingers games (I think it is called Trade Nation now)
No, it's still Grainger Games.
Ah OK. It's just the ones that I used to go to recently changed their name to Trade Nation so I assumed they all did.
 

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Elvis Starburst said:
Normally no, but I actually do have a case where I refuse to go to a certain convenience store. Of course, that doesn't sound like much. But the place was decently priced, decently stocked, and was a 5 minute walk from my apartment. The younger workers there were always ok with me buying something, and asking for specific change for laundry money. I mean, I paid for stuff, I handed $5, just needed loonies and quarters specifically. But, the grumpy old man owner there had the biggest issue with that.

I always ask if I can get specific change, even when I know I can, just to not be rude and throwing it on them mid transaction. I asked him first, he said "No, we're not a bank" and I said "Even if I am a paying customer, and hand you a large enough bill, I can't get some specific types of coins?" His response? "Go downtown and go to one of the banks! We NEED that change!" I gave him a look, walked out saying "Whatever ya say, gramps."

Yes, that last bit was petty. But don't bullshit me, old man. Don't act like those 4 quarters and 2 loonies are the only things keeping your damn store alive. I am the paying customer here. I have been loyal to you for 9 months after moving here. YOU are the one who should be accounting for customers who need that change for their own purposes as well. YOU are the business with all the money coming in, and out. Call me entitled all you want, but I would have been ok with a "Sorry, I can't do that for you." Instead I got some grumpy toned, piece of shit attitude from the owner of the store. Was the first time I ever made a negative review for a business. And it's the only review on their page. The one rating you see Googling them. Fuck you guys.
This actually might be the case from time to time due to the fact that if you actually needed the change he should be inclined to give it to you, however, sometimes businesses do run out of change, I don't know what it's like over there but over here you actually need to pay the bank to turn your cash into change.
 

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CrystalShadow said:
I seriously mistrust HP after the disastrous weird problems my mother's laptop developed.
(yet knowing full well how bad the last one was, she bought another HP laptop)
Still, I have a HP printer, it's just their laptops I don't trust

I try to avoid seagate hard drives for similar reasons. (outright failure of hard drives? No thanks). But that seems increasingly diffucult, because the list of companies that makes hard drives gets smaller and smaller.

Then there's paypal. Paypal completely screwed me over after I moved to the point I don't really want anything to do with them anymore.
As I quickly found out though, trying to avoid paypal while buying stuff online is getting increasingly difficult.
So I caved on that as well, begrudgingly.
Isn't it fun when a company that has totally pissed you off has such a stranglehold you pretty much can't avoid them? ~sigh~
HP laptops are near the bottom end of the scale (possibly worst) for reliability and customer service. Acer and ASUS are the current leaders, IIRC. This was just some list I read years ago, but my experiences with those companies seemed to line up pretty accurately with it.

OT: Currys/PC World currently seem to be trying to fill a gap that doesn't need filling. I can't wrap my head around how they make enough money to break even. Their staff just stand around doing nothing all day until a customer walks in, then several home in at once (or take turns, until you've been asked by about four people whether there's anything they can do for you when you're browsing). I can't think of anything they sell that isn't a fraction of the price online - they've pulled prices out of the air on several occasions that have made me laugh and say, "Nope, I'll just get it on Amazon for half of that." A relative told me of a time their technicians were meant to install the OS on his computer (at the store, which for some reason took several hours, so they had to come back and collect it). I never thought a computer could run like a snail with polio, but according to a more tech-savvy cousin who examined it, the monkeys somehow failed to install several vital files. The only way to un-bumfuck that PC is by reinstalling the OS over again, which they can't do because the only other PC they can back their files up onto is in a similar state (because it's HP).

Oh, and for some reason they sell graphics cards.
 

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Elvis Starburst said:
I wasn't there, so I don't know what kind of tone any of that was said in, but running out of change is a real pain in the butt. If he thought like me, he probably didn't want to start something, particularly if it was early in the day and/or the guy who's meant to replace the change in the register wasn't in the habit of making himself easily available.
 

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LeathermanKick25 said:
Why on earth would you not only send THQ an email like that (one I'm sure they would of just laughed at) but actually expect any change?
Because if consumers are silent, then we have nobody but ourselves to blame when paid on-disc content, season passes, locked multiplayer, etc become standard in the business.

I'll point out that THQ did many of the things EA gets crap for before EA did them. EA is the codifier of bad practices, but THQ was often the innovator. Right now it's Ubisoft, a company I wasn't a customer of in the first place, so that would be pointless.

Also, I can't remember the last time I actually paid for an EA game, so again, targeting them makes about as much sense as writing the Canadian PM.

Maybe you're fine with gaming as-is. But in general, my question is why more people aren't doing the same, since virtually everyone is dissatisfied with the current market?
 

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Because as good an as idea as "vote with your wallet" is. It won't work. Gaming has become far too large for that to have an effect. Even then, I'm one of those people who sees gaming (regardless of how much joy it's given me over the years) as nothing more than a hobby. I've got far greater things in life to worry about than season passes or on disc DLC.
Not possible. The gaming crowd didn't build it up and then drop off of the map into oblivion. What the community giveth, the community can taketh away, for it IS so that even Microsoft feels the largest sting it has ever felt in its business history, and they're usually the so-called invincible evil empire of money. It's not that these things don't matter. It's that we spent years building them up, and so these bosses have lots of hit points. You have to whittle them down. No vote wallet? No make impact. No make impact? No change ever, except for the worst, and don't tell me otherwise because there is definitely NO solution other than depriving them of more money, the bottom line they worship.

OT: It's not so much that I have had to abandon ship much, per se. Mine is such that I choose places that seem to work for me, or I MAKE them work by giving them hell. So, like...a bunch of you mentioned Walmart. Well, I hate Walmart. I never really go there. I don't go places I'm not gonna like what I see. Now, some people don't have much of an option. They could be stuck in an area that just has Walmart or good fucking luck getting anything. That's terrible. There's literally nothing good that can come of that.
 

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CaptainMarvelous said:
Parasondox said:
Currys PC World.
I mean... of all the ones in the thread so far, this one seems like reason to demand a refund. Because you shelled out 30 quid for what was actually pretty shitty service and bordering on fraud. I'm guessing you didn't take it back in to show how it wasn't working and demand the money back, but yikes. I think they can now go on my shit-list.
That was at a time I was dumb, stupid and shy. Okay I am being a bit harsh on myself but if that happened today, well I just wouldn't stand for it and demand a full refund. I have learnt my lesson.
 

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Barbas said:
CrystalShadow said:
I seriously mistrust HP after the disastrous weird problems my mother's laptop developed.
(yet knowing full well how bad the last one was, she bought another HP laptop)
Still, I have a HP printer, it's just their laptops I don't trust

I try to avoid seagate hard drives for similar reasons. (outright failure of hard drives? No thanks). But that seems increasingly diffucult, because the list of companies that makes hard drives gets smaller and smaller.

Then there's paypal. Paypal completely screwed me over after I moved to the point I don't really want anything to do with them anymore.
As I quickly found out though, trying to avoid paypal while buying stuff online is getting increasingly difficult.
So I caved on that as well, begrudgingly.
Isn't it fun when a company that has totally pissed you off has such a stranglehold you pretty much can't avoid them? ~sigh~
HP laptops are near the bottom end of the scale (possibly worst) for reliability and customer service. Acer and ASUS are the current leaders, IIRC. This was just some list I read years ago, but my experiences with those companies seemed to line up pretty accurately with it.
Makes sense to me as well. I have an Acer laptop sitting next to me on my desk. Some cosmetic damage aside (the silver has half worn off in places. Something I remember from repairing laptops. Was very common in acers until they changed their industrial designs to something which wasn't silver) - Basically, windows XP flakiness aside (and performance issues with games especially), it works as well as it did when it was new.
It is from 2006 by the way... So, 9 years old)
Meanwhile, that HP system my mother had, (also from about 2006) stopped working properly after no more than a year... >_<

OT: Currys/PC World currently seem to be trying to fill a gap that doesn't need filling. I can't wrap my head around how they make enough money to break even. Their staff just stand around doing nothing all day until a customer walks in, then several home in at once (or take turns, until you've been asked by about four people whether there's anything they can do for you when you're browsing). I can't think of anything they sell that isn't a fraction of the price online - they've pulled prices out of the air on several occasions that have made me laugh and say, "Nope, I'll just get it on Amazon for half of that." A relative told me of a time their technicians were meant to install the OS on his computer (at the store, which for some reason took several hours, so they had to come back and collect it). I never thought a computer could run like a snail with polio, but according to a more tech-savvy cousin who examined it, the monkeys somehow failed to install several vital files. The only way to un-bumfuck that PC is by reinstalling the OS over again, which they can't do because the only other PC they can back their files up onto is in a similar state (because it's HP).

Oh, and for some reason they sell graphics cards.
Yeah. Funny that. I briefly had a job placement at PC world.
I was there for about 8 weeks, and I worked in the tech support department.

The guys there were fairly competent, but on the whole I wouldn't say it was an especially professional environment.
We also had our hands tied to some extent by company policy.

I was literally not allowed to fix hardware faults, no matter how trivial and easy to fix they might be. I sometimes had to diagnose whether there was a hardware or software fault, but... If it was hardware, I wasn't allowed to fix it.

Working there may actually have been my first ever exposure to Zero Punctuation, ironically.

Meanwhile, through random chance, I also spent 3 months working at a place called Mercom.

Want to know what Mercom is? It's a little company that gets computers shipped to it and then fixes them.
What kind of computers?
Well, if you have a computer under warranty, this is where it goes.
Now, I don't mean manufacturer's warranties, no.
I'm talking extended warrranties.
You know. Those weird people that buy a laptop and then get a 5 year or even 10 year warranty on it?

Yeah. We got those. Most of the things we worked on where between 2 and 6 years old...

One of the contracts the company had was... Yep. You guessed it. Curry's/PC World.

So... I've seen PC World's warranty and tech support service from both sides.
And it is terrifying.

Amateur hour stuff, for sure. (And pay to match, unsurprisingly)
The repairs we did were often ridiculous, and not always particularly well done when it comes to stuff like putting screws back in or whatever, or ensuring all the bits of the case were actually in the right spot internally... >_<

The processes were even worse. The management kept changing operating policy every week, and in the end in spite of obsessing over procedure, when something did go wrong they were woefully unprepared, and their policies were badly thought out to deal with any failure of the system.
Unsurprisingly, they eventually lost a laptop, and got in a lot of trouble.
It was so painful to watch, but you don't feel like you can say anything to the management.
What am I gonna say? "excuse me, your ideas are stupid and you should be thinking about this, and this and that instead of what you're obsessing over?" Yeah... XD

The PC world guys meanwhile handled software stuff, mostly, but while I didn't have to, a big part of the job was also 'selling' tech support stuff. Ugh.

(Installing an OS though... Ever done that? Even if it goes flawlessly, in my experience it takes several hours. And unless you have a setup to do blind installs for large corporations, there's a lot of babysitting computers that are in the process of having something installed.
In a repair 'business' environment, it's the kind of thing you set up and then sit next to it while doing something else, because it sucks up so much time.)
 

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LeathermanKick25 said:
Because as good an as idea as "vote with your wallet" is. It won't work. Gaming has become far too large for that to have an effect. Even then, I'm one of those people who sees gaming (regardless of how much joy it's given me over the years) as nothing more than a hobby. I've got far greater things in life to worry about than season passes or on disc DLC.
Couldn't you argue that for every single example that is in this thread and will ever be in this thread?

What does Wells Fargo care that I'm not a customer, they're far too big to care? What does Wal-Mart care that I won't shop there because of bad customer service, they're far too big to care? What does Best Buy care that I won't shop there because of their bait & switch-type tactic, they're far too big to care? I'm a tiny drop in the bucket for these companies.

Hell, if anything, Black Listing companies hurts me a lot more then it is going to hurt them for now I have a big inconvenience factor that I won't go to Wal-Mart or Best Buy unless last resorts (even though Wal-Mart is my closest store and Best Buy is my best electronics option unless I shop online). Maybe I'm cutting my nose to spite my face but I can't in good conscience allow myself to purchase from a company that has such a blatant disregard for my business.

But THQ went down. Best Buy's stock has taken major hits over the years as companies like Amazon push into their market and Best Buy focuses less on customer service and more on the bottom line. We've seen time after time companies get bad reputations and eventually go down. It might take quite a while but my one drop in the bucket can become a tsunami awfully quick if a company keeps up their bad tactics.
 

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Blacklisting means not buying anything from that store, ever again right? Well, I've got nothing like that. I've got a Redlight list, that is to say, companies who make me wary buying from them because of past exchanges, but if the product they're selling is a good deal I'll still probably buy it, after a thorough investigation. Being any other way seems, to me, to be completely irrational.
Yes, if you want to go completely Black List, it would be never buying from them again.

For my own black list in the OP, those are companies that I will never go to except as an absolute last resort (that's why I call it my shit list and not black list personally). Target price matches so unless there is a dire situation, I see no reason why I would ever go to Wal-Mart or Best Buy ever again.
 

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It takes a lot for me to utterly blacklist a company, and as such I only have two on my list:

FYE
I'm not even sure if they're still in business, because I haven't seen one in years.
But when I was a kid, I spent weeks trying to hunt down a copy of this game, and the only one I was able to find was at an FYE in the mall. The label said $40, but there was a big "SALE: $20" sign on the shelf. I brought it up to the front, and they said it was $40, because the sale had ended the day before and they forgot to remove the sign. I--being a stupid kid--thought this was fair, paid the man, and left with the game.
A few minutes later, I met my mom at the food court and told her what happened, and she was not very happy. She took me back into the store and told them that they should have honored the sale price because the sign was still up and this was deceptive advertising. When the cashier told her that he couldn't do that, she made me return the game for a refund. The cashier said that he couldn't give me my cash back, but he could give me a gift card for the equivalent value. We took it, and he handed me a gift card, saying it had $40 on it.
About a year later, I finally had another opportunity to go into--a different--FYE to use that gift card, but when I went to check out with it, I was told that it only had $20 on it. Whether it was intentional malice or incompetence doesn't matter: FYE literally stole $20 from me, and that was the first time I ever said to myself that I would never shop at a place ever again.
Oh, and my dad was with me that second time, and he tried to buy some movies with a "Buy two, get one free" sale they were doing for their $15 DVDs. And when he saw three that he wanted, he asked if he could pay for two of the $15 DVDs, and get this one that was normally $15 but on sale for $10 as the free one, and was told no, because "Sale items are excluded."
"You're telling me that I can get a $15 DVD for free, but not this $10 one?"
"Yes."
He didn't buy anything and ended up walking out with me.

Konami
Three strikes and they're out. Fuck off, Konami. And it's only gotten worse since I gave up on them. If I go into detail on it here, it will be the longest post in this thread by a country mile. But they've been testing my patience for a long time now, and the final straw was when they canceled Silent Hills and pulled P.T.
April 29, 2015 is the day that Konami died to me, and I will never spend a single cent on a product they put out after that date, ever.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Blizzard, I will never buy one of their games again. I used to be a fanboy but they fucked it up when I got hired to work for them, but when I went in for training they told me I wasn't supposed to be there, apparently I was supposed to get a call saying I didn't get it or something, but I didn't get the call. And since I went there I ended up getting black listed from them, so fuck them. I think the thing that really pisses me off is that me and my friend got hired at the same time, but he got a phone call the day before telling him to go to the later training session, chances are we would have driven up there together so if that hadn't happened then I would have been stuck waiting till the 8 hour thing was over or something.