I dunno, for me art is about pure expression, if an artist wasn't expressing themselves then it isn't art, just a pretty pictureKahunaburger said:
"We're Making It Accessible to a Wider Audience."
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Personally, i think "oh God, now there's going to be less content i want, and more Tits and bloom effects."
Well, that's not a very good definition of art (it excludes basically everything we consider art), but back on the subject of games, can we actually say any game was made purely as expression and not as something people would theoretically want to play?Tipsy Giant said:
Depends. That could mean anything from removing all gameplay except one button to press to simply adding it to other platforms.
the two aren't mutually exclusive. Playing a game is the equivalent of watching a film or reading a book, it is the verb associated to the art, so 'playing' a game will never counteract expressionKahunaburger said:
Emphasis on want to play. The question is not: is the game intended to be accessible to an audience? (Spoilers: yes.) The question is: is accessibility to the intended audience achieved without compromising the game's mechanics?Tipsy Giant said:
Here's the thing. Most people are stupid. No really, they are. Most people are a couple very small steps away from being awe struck when you dangle a set of keys in front of them. So when you hear a game being made accessible to a wider audience it means in so many words that it's having anything that might require more thought than pushing X not die ripped out of it like a turd in a swimming pool.
Let's look at Dragon Age 2 (pinnacle of role playing games indeed Mr Tito ROFL). The developers idea of making it accessible was to turn it into so much of a button mashing action game. They even went so far as to say "When you press a button something awesome has to happen". The reason? Because most people have the attention span of a fly on a coke binge.
The bottom line is that when you hear a game is being made accessible to a wider audience it means it's being made so the unwashed masses will actually be able to play it and that isn't a good thing. As I said before most people are stupid and if a game is being made to cater to them it's very likely it's also being made in a way that it isn't being made to appeal to people who don't sit perplexed in deep thought when you ask them if they know how you confuse an idiot.
As an added bonus I've included a nice 4 hour video explaining the button/awesome connection that I mentioned above. Enjoy!
Let's look at Dragon Age 2 (pinnacle of role playing games indeed Mr Tito ROFL). The developers idea of making it accessible was to turn it into so much of a button mashing action game. They even went so far as to say "When you press a button something awesome has to happen". The reason? Because most people have the attention span of a fly on a coke binge.
The bottom line is that when you hear a game is being made accessible to a wider audience it means it's being made so the unwashed masses will actually be able to play it and that isn't a good thing. As I said before most people are stupid and if a game is being made to cater to them it's very likely it's also being made in a way that it isn't being made to appeal to people who don't sit perplexed in deep thought when you ask them if they know how you confuse an idiot.
As an added bonus I've included a nice 4 hour video explaining the button/awesome connection that I mentioned above. Enjoy!
I suppose I could of lied to spare some feelings. Where's the fun in that though?Nikolaz72 said:
I can't help people are stupid. It's just the way of things. I can't help that because people aren't too bright that games are being simplified to a level that your average idiot can understand. None of this is my doing.
I really wish people were more intelligent as a whole and their collective stupidity wasn't causing video games to become "dumbed down" and simplified. Hell we could have more games like Hearts of Iron 2 and Sins of a Solar Empire. Your average person would get a headache and go in search of pudding and something shiny if they played these games. Instead people are stupid and we get a deluge of games like Call of Duty and Gears of War.
Again, none of this is my doing. I'm just pointing it out.
*Sigh* Not being Civil is the same, or rather. 'Is' acting on feelings, and if we all did that well. We could compare people not being able to hold in their rude opinions with people who cant keep it in their pants.Xanthious said:
By that logic I think people who try to keep the rude comments to a minimum around people who could have their feelings hurt by them, are the smartest. And those who go and take a dump on people in an effort to get a reaction out of them, are stupid.
And im sorry, but this is -clearly- your doing. Not blaming Bioware for this one.
Epic said that when they were making Gears of War 3... What they really meant was "Fuck our old fans lets just appeal to cod kids for 2 months before cod actually comes out"
I'd agree with that. No idea what it is about the design process that causes people to "streamline" games by removing the things that made them good - I've seen streamlining done well (AFIAK), but it doesn't seem to happen very often.Tipsy Giant said:
