Western countries 'too democratic'?

[Deviluk]

I had a friend at school who had some pretty radical political opinions. He even said, without being high or drunk, that Britain would be better off with a dictator...

This is ludicrous, of course. But it does seem tempting, what with the reaction times to current issues, the constant distant threat of actual evil governmental bodies (BNP?) and also the large amount of people who think the government don't do anything, and just take the piss when it comes to the law.

I could go on about the whole world of political correctness, and how it has gone mad. On example is the famous girl group of this website, just ranting, and why? Because they have been told they're at a loss in this world, and therefore they react accordingly. We are, for the most part, equal. If they want to fight for equality where it isn't there, go to Kenya or Burma.

This constant struggle for complete harmony is what also drives democracy to focus billions of our money into compiling equal rights lists as long as the bible, but you're never gonna get rid of the odd chauvinistic boss with 200 pages more business regulations.

Dictators don't care what people think of them, and therefore will concentrate on what is important and what helps people most. Unless they go power mad and commit genocide...but how often does that happen!?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Sometimes I think we really do need some kind of fascist dictatotrship, if not to show reactionary right-wing radical fucks how much better we're off in a democracy.

 

[Proteus214]

Too much power in the hands of so few almost always leads to corruption.

 

[Simalacrum]

The problem with dictators is that its great when you have a good dictator, and there are occasional times when dictatorships have infact proven effective. Unfortunately, however, a lot of the time what happens is that they are either just greedy for power and money, or become corrupt - in which case there is very little the people can do to stop said dictatorship without the military turning against said oppressor.

Besides, individuals can make mistakes, while a group is (theoretically) more able to make a better decision... I think what Britain and other dominant nations need is not a dictatorship, but rather a carefully selected Oligarchy, comprising of people who can be trusted to stay un-corrupted. The rulers would also have to inter-change on a frequent basis, to assure that corruption doesn't creep up upon the current rulers.

edit: furthermore, it should be assured that there is no financial gain for becomming a leader, thus assuring that Oligarchs have good intentions behind their actions.

 

[Kollega]

It is well known fact of life that benevolent dictatorship would rock.

Unfortunately,there was almost zero of benevolent dictators whatsoever. I could try to be one,but i'm not sure i would stay sane - i'm rather emotional,after all.

 

[Nickolai77]

Besides, individuals can make mistakes, while a group is (theoretically) more able to make a better decision... I think what Britain and other dominant nations need is not a dictatorship, but rather a carefully selected Oligarchy.

No, not Oligarchy- what do the upper classes know about the real world? I would not shake a stick however at a system where the academic elite run society. I know most politicians have been well educated, but that is only in subjects such as politics and law. The education for future politicans and leaders should be more rigorous and wide spanning. Include subjects like History, Geography, Philosophy, as well as politics into their education and maybe we will get somewhere. However, even this may not stop corruption is power is handed to the few. This is of course, the main strengh of democracy- the people vote leaders (hopefully) out before they go bonkers with power.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

i think the issue is that too many governments listen to the minority instead of the majority. a very good case of the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

 

[titanium turtle]

a good dictator is the best form of government- the problem is that you may let a loony/psycopath into a position of power

 

[Monocle Man]

Ooh, I can use this picture again:

Spoiler

A whole labyrinth of procedures are no good and an open field with disaster as distant as the solution is no good either. You need to find a middle road.

Single ruler, that ruler can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't do this, that or kajoozie. I doubt I'll ever become the earthly Overlord so you'll never get a perfect ruler, so just make him unable to do very bad things.

So don't violate certain human rights, don't tinker with the value on your pay checks. (also, political figures should earn a good amount of money, not an obscenely huge pile of gold and jewellery. They should help mankind because it's the right thing to do and they can, not to get a fifth Ferrari) and leave the throne when the council of supervision says you did more bad than good in your four years of control.

If the country ends up worse than before the rule of someone, just change it back to how it was before when it ends and keep the few good things.

 

[cobra_ky]

I had a friend at school who had some pretty radical political opinions. He even said, without being high or drunk, that Britain would be better off with a dictator...

This is ludicrous, of course. But it does seem tempting, what with the reaction times to current issues, the constant distant threat of actual evil governmental bodies (BNP?) and also the large amount of people who think the government don't do anything, and just take the piss when it comes to the law.

I could go on about the whole world of political correctness, and how it has gone mad. On example is the famous girl group of this website, just ranting, and why? Because they have been told they're at a loss in this world, and therefore they react accordingly. We are, for the most part, equal. If they want to fight for equality where it isn't there, go to Kenya or Burma.

This constant struggle for complete harmony is what also drives democracy to focus billions of our money into compiling equal rights lists as long as the bible, but you're never gonna get rid of the odd chauvinistic boss with 200 pages more business regulations.

Dictators don't care what people think of them, and therefore will concentrate on what is important and what helps people most. Unless they go power mad and commit genocide...but how often does that happen!?

let me see if i have this right: you think a dictatorship might be a good thing to have because The Escapist has annoying forum threads? and don't we have much more pressing issues than political correctness? honestly, if they're not actively trying to get laws changed, why do you care what the girl gamer group thinks?

i don't know if the UK really spends billions on "equal rights lists", but i can tell you that the U.S. government spends a lot more on discrimination than they do on equality.

 

[Spitfire175]

Too much power in the hands of so few almost always leads to corruption.

Nothing proves this more definitely than the Soviet Union.

 

[MusicalFreedom]

I could go on about the whole world of political correctness, and how it has gone mad-

stop right there. I don't care what else you say, just stop right there. the phrase "political correctness gone MAD" comes from the media, and is a successful attempt to whip up sensationalism and outrage at how people don't follow "common sense" (which, strangely enough, is always the sense of the person talking).

so congratulations, I guess, on falling into the trap of labelling more stupid examples of PC and applying it to the whole idea of political correctness, which is in my experience more level-headed than people think. The media loves people like you.

I mean, if you want to perpetuate media slogans, fantastic, but I don't really see why you would

 

[Meemaimoh]

Dictatorships would be perfect with a perfect dictator. Alas, this is impossible. It's the same as why communism doesn't work, at least in the ways it's been tried (I'd like to see democratic socialism tried out, though please god not here). People are simply too fallible.

It's true that the popularity contest part of democracy holds back progress, but the accountability stops things from getting out of hand. It's not perfect by any means, but since we're not perfect, it's the best we can hope for.

 

[THAC0]

Sometimes I think we really do need some kind of fascist dictatotrship, if not to show reactionary right-wing radical fucks how much better we're off in a democracy.

i support this idea with all my heart.

 

[Micklet]

Take one look at the lisbon treaty and how it is being enacted and tell me again that western politics are too democratic. Out of all the member states only one country is actually allowing the people decide whether or not they should opt into it. Is it just me or is that the least democratic thing going. Every other country has passed the treaty without so much as making their respective populations aware of it, simply they just dont trust the people to make a decision that will better political careers and aid in the EU taking one more step towards being the European Federation under a dictatorship. If you really want a dictatorship, be careful what you wish for because it is coming. You might think on paper they are a good idea, but so is communism. A timocracy is roughly the only form of government that has worked out the way it intended, and it went on to spawn democracy, which in essence is a more diluted and convoluted form of a timocracy. In short, no i do not think western politics has become too democratic, in fact i think the cycle towards dictatorships is nearly run its course.

 

[axia777]

Not to be rude, but your friend is a moron. Dictators always abuse their positions of power. It is never good for the people.

 

[Doth]

I never really understood the concept of democracy.
It just seems horridly illogical to let retards have a say in things.

Also; zealous brainwashing to maintain the status quo.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

I vote Noam Chomsky for global dictator.

 

[Deviluk]

I could go on about the whole world of political correctness, and how it has gone mad-

stop right there. I don't care what else you say, just stop right there. the phrase "political correctness gone MAD" comes from the media, and is a successful attempt to whip up sensationalism and outrage at how people don't follow "common sense" (which, strangely enough, is always the sense of the person talking).

so congratulations, I guess, on falling into the trap of labelling more stupid examples of PC and applying it to the whole idea of political correctness, which is in my experience more level-headed than people think. The media loves people like you.

I mean, if you want to perpetuate media slogans, fantastic, but I don't really see why you would

I think you've got me all wrong there. But well done on all those big words.

 

[Deviluk]

Not to be rude, but your friend is a moron. Dictators always abuse their positions of power. It is never good for the people.

You are right about that. He was a bit nuts, we managed to swing him round to middle-left eventually.