Because all of humanity can be represented by the Nazis? What does losing "faith" in humanity even mean?TheSnarkKnight said:I think there is some level of hyperbole to it, but at times it seems rather justified, does it not? If you're reading about the horrendous treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany, I think you're kinda justified in saying that you that your species and going on about the bottomless well of evil that mankind seems capable of tapping into.Hazy992 said:OT: I think a lot of people who claim to be misanthropic actually aren't and they're just saying it for attention or hyperbole. I sometimes say shit like that but I don't mean it; I try and see the good in humanity. Although sometimes you read something in the news and you can't help but weep for your species just a little.
Also, I'd like to point out, that just because someone may hate humanity at the moment, it doesn't mean they don't have hope that they'll improve one day.
I'm sorry, but did you at least ask your friends if they voted for Harper? I mean, it seems like you just went " Well, Harper got a majority government, therefore, most of my friends voted for him. Because of that, they are all dumb." Correct me if I'm wrong.Regnes said:Well for my part, I haven't lost total faith in humanity, but I don't feel very connected to the world anymore on a lot of levels.
Like the fact that Stephen Harper is the worst prime minister of Canada in a very long time, it's not an opinion. He makes us look bad by doing things like withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol or stopping sending aid to third world countries, he shares almost none of his agendas with the public, he abuses and exploits the system for his own benefit, he's bringing religion into our government, and harms people by lowering safety standards in food production facilities.
All this crap, just the tip of the iceberg, and in the federal election earlier this year, he not only retained his position, he went from having a minority government to a majority government. Somehow people came to the conclusion that despite all his misdoings being public knowledge, the logical thing to do is to try and keep him in power, it seems people were even convinced by his incompetence to switch their vote over to him instead.
When the election ended I started talking to a lot of people about how voting for Harper is one of the worst things this country has ever done for itself and how people who voted for him are morons. Then I realized that since he has a majority government, that means most people voted for him, most of my friends I talked to probably voted for him, I called my friends morons to their faces. This is a reality of life, I'm surrounded by goddamn idiots, and there's little I can do about it.
That's just one example.
Most of the people here seem to be detached from popular culture and the "big world" for the most part and the news that they do hear and look into usually involve dumb fucks being dumb fucks, often in positions of power and/or influence.similar.squirrel said:Although it appears to have been largely supplanted by 'I don't want to live on this planet any more', the 'I've lost my faith in humanity' brand of sentiment still seems to run through our thoughtful and intellectual little community.
You see it cropping up beside eugenicist tirades in almost every thread concerning the exploits of unintelligent/nasty folk, or reports about proposed anti-videogame legislation. It has, by this point, become something of an Escapist staple.
So, does anybody have an idea why the socially inept cat-ears crowd seem to be drawn towards unthinking misanthropy? Is it an extension of some victim complex, or maybe an RTS state of mind where the world seems like an easy place to run? Or could it be attributed to a general lack of life-experience?
Discuss.
Firstly: I'm not saying that Nazis should represent all of humanity, but it's a cruelty that humaity has been shown to be capable of. I'm not just talking about the ones actively involved in the persecution, by the way, this includes all people who knew what was going on and who either did nothing or who added to it in little ways. It's just one example of how easy it is for humanity to fall into a state that is far less than ideal.dyre said:Because all of humanity can be represented by the Nazis? What does losing "faith" in humanity even mean?TheSnarkKnight said:I think there is some level of hyperbole to it, but at times it seems rather justified, does it not? If you're reading about the horrendous treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany, I think you're kinda justified in saying that you that your species and going on about the bottomless well of evil that mankind seems capable of tapping into.Hazy992 said:OT: I think a lot of people who claim to be misanthropic actually aren't and they're just saying it for attention or hyperbole. I sometimes say shit like that but I don't mean it; I try and see the good in humanity. Although sometimes you read something in the news and you can't help but weep for your species just a little.
Also, I'd like to point out, that just because someone may hate humanity at the moment, it doesn't mean they don't have hope that they'll improve one day.
Do we believe humanity no longer exists? Do we mean we don't have faith in humanity's ability to resist hate propaganda or to think rationally? What is humanity anyway? The worst among us or the best among us? The average person?
It's really just a meaningless blanket statement.
That was sarcasm. Somebody really ought to code a font to represent it.irishda said:On another note: be careful about putting the community here up on a pedestal. This is still a community. It's no more intelligent or thoughtful than any other communities, and has more than it's share of flaws. There's a lot of bigotry against religion in general (as "intellectuals" are wont to have), just a hint of misogyny, and everyone knows about this site's rather odd hatred of children.
Well for the record, myself and my friends...Hell, most of Quebec voted NDP.Regnes said:-Canada talk Snip-
Yes it is justified. At times. But its not justified to hate humanity for everything it's done or hate them all the time. 'I can communicate with anyone almost anywhere in the world instantaneously. FUCK THIS WORLD!!!!'TheSnarkKnight said:I think there is some level of hyperbole to it, but at times it seems rather justified, does it not? If you're reading about the horrendous treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany, I think you're kinda justified in saying that you that your species and going on about the bottomless well of evil that mankind seems capable of tapping into.Hazy992 said:OT: I think a lot of people who claim to be misanthropic actually aren't and they're just saying it for attention or hyperbole. I sometimes say shit like that but I don't mean it; I try and see the good in humanity. Although sometimes you read something in the news and you can't help but weep for your species just a little.
Also, I'd like to point out, that just because someone may hate humanity at the moment, it doesn't mean they don't have hope that they'll improve one day.
The thing is, I don't deny the good stuff that's happening, when you think about all that humanity has achieved, it's difficult not to feel proud or awed. However, that doesn't negate our bloodied and horrible past (or present) and, whilst I don't hate on humanity all the time, I'm not sure I could say that no one is justified in hating on humanity all that much.Hazy992 said:Yes it is justified. At times. But its not justified to hate humanity for everything it's done or hate them all the time. 'I can communicate with anyone almost anywhere in the world instantaneously. FUCK THIS WORLD!!!!'TheSnarkKnight said:I think there is some level of hyperbole to it, but at times it seems rather justified, does it not? If you're reading about the horrendous treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany, I think you're kinda justified in saying that you that your species and going on about the bottomless well of evil that mankind seems capable of tapping into.Hazy992 said:OT: I think a lot of people who claim to be misanthropic actually aren't and they're just saying it for attention or hyperbole. I sometimes say shit like that but I don't mean it; I try and see the good in humanity. Although sometimes you read something in the news and you can't help but weep for your species just a little.
Also, I'd like to point out, that just because someone may hate humanity at the moment, it doesn't mean they don't have hope that they'll improve one day.
And horiffic events also show the good in humanity. Just look at the rescue efforts during 9/11; people threw aside their own safety and ran into the towers to help. How can you hate those people?
you've finally lost faith? just now? i lost it on day one.similar.squirrel said:Although it appears to have been largely supplanted by 'I don't want to live on this planet any more', the 'I've lost my faith in humanity' brand of sentiment still seems to run through our thoughtful and intellectual little community.
You see it cropping up beside eugenicist tirades in almost every thread concerning the exploits of unintelligent/nasty folk, or reports about proposed anti-videogame legislation. It has, by this point, become something of an Escapist staple.
So, does anybody have an idea why the socially inept cat-ears crowd seem to be drawn towards unthinking misanthropy? Is it an extension of some victim complex, or maybe an RTS state of mind where the world seems like an easy place to run? Or could it be attributed to a general lack of life-experience?
Discuss.
Outstanding. Did you happen to read the original post?CulixCupric said:you've finally lost faith? just now? i lost it on day one.similar.squirrel said:Although it appears to have been largely supplanted by 'I don't want to live on this planet any more', the 'I've lost my faith in humanity' brand of sentiment still seems to run through our thoughtful and intellectual little community.
You see it cropping up beside eugenicist tirades in almost every thread concerning the exploits of unintelligent/nasty folk, or reports about proposed anti-videogame legislation. It has, by this point, become something of an Escapist staple.
So, does anybody have an idea why the socially inept cat-ears crowd seem to be drawn towards unthinking misanthropy? Is it an extension of some victim complex, or maybe an RTS state of mind where the world seems like an easy place to run? Or could it be attributed to a general lack of life-experience?
Discuss.