What are the best Survivalism Games?

mechanixis

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So this is something I've always loved, and only recently put my finger on: I love games in which the objective is to simply stay alive in a dangerous, open world. I'm in love with the post-apocalyptic portrait of the grizzled survivor, scrounging for food and improvised supplies, carrying a revolver with only two bullets left in it and jumping at the slightest sign of danger. However, I don't know any games that do that well.

I've tried to tinker with Fallout 3 to give it more of a desperate survival mood - turning off the music and HUD, fiddling with the difficulty, and taking a vow not to enter any of the settlements - but ultimately, I realized Fallout 3 simply isn't a game about survival, it's a game about strapping a minigun to your back and seeing how many of a mutant's limbs you can blow off. In slow motion. The overabundance of firearms - and relative irrelevance of food, water, stealth, and subtlety - simply make the entire engine unsuited to the task of a survival game. I deeply regret playing the 360 version, as my PC is a frail, anemic thing that gasps and wheezes trying to run games from 1998; otherwise, I would've modded the crap out of it by now.

I've tried playing the adventurer mode in Dwarf Fortress, which works alright; despite being in ASCII, the level of depth and detail in that game creates a great sense of every little detail being absolutely crucial to whether or not you last another day - you can be wounded on specific limbs down to the fingers and toes, and there's an incredible breadth of improvisation allowed by the game engine for combat. It's a game that allows you to grab and hurl rocks at a pursuing sasquatch as you run for your life, then turn around, tackle it, gouge out its eyes with your bare hands, and strangle it to death with a piece of your clothing as it shambles blindly away, without any modding or self-imposed game rules. That's pretty fucking impressive. The problem with Dwarf Fortress is it's just too damn complicated. The basic key bindings take hours upon hours to learn, and it's simply not practical.

I recently ordered Far Cry 2 in the haze of an eBay binge, as it looks like it offers a good 'survival engine'. The purchase was mostly - no, entirely - inspired by the slideshow/story "Permanent Death" (which is a fun read, a sort of grim, in-character Let's Play). Whether or not it'll live up to my expectations remains to be seen.

But in the meantime, I still hunger for that sense of consequence, improvisation, and desperation that no game seems to really nail. Have you ever played a game that has that quality I'm talking about? I'd love to add some titles to my list.
 

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Pararaptor said:
Might you try Metro 2033? It sounds like the type of thing you're looking for.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much ammo. I have 700 Assault rifle round, 300 magnum rounds, and 300 shotgun shells.

OT: Hmm...I got nothing.
 

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Try out the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.

It's an open world game that's hard as Duke Nukems balls (And they are balls of steel). I don't really know if you can turn of the HUD and such, but it's very much about surviving, so you'd probably like it.


Ok, so you can't play stalker.

Uuhm... Have a Justin Beiber marathon and see if you can survive that? Sounds like a hardcore survivalist challenge.
 

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Isnt Fallout: New Vegas Supposed to have a hardcore mode for people that like this sorta stuff in games?

Yeah, i dont play much games like that, mostly for my lack of funds and desire to enjoy my games other than just live, if i wanted to do that id just go camping...

Which i do occasioanlly....
 

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dragon_of_red said:
Isnt Fallout: New Vegas Supposed to have a hardcore mode for people that like this sorta stuff in games?

Yeah, i dont play much games like that, mostly for my lack of funds and desire to enjoy my games other than just live, if i wanted to do that id just go camping...

Which i do occasioanlly....
Yeah, the Hardcore Mode in that game sounds right up my alley, but at the same time, Fallout 3 just doesn't fit the bill. The combat in that game involves shooting a man in the face with an assault rifle nine times, at which point his head pops cleanly off like a champagne cork and rolls across the room. And then it's constantly pulling shit like this:
 

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Damn I was gonna say STALKER too. ummm.....ok, Demon's Souls? I found that game really unforgiving (but its only on ps3 so..)

But for what you want nothign apart from those 2 are springing to mind atm.
 

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No, I've never encountered exactly what you are looking for. I have also heard Stalker is one I should try, but I do not have a PC capable of running it well.

But I do think it's a genre that should be done. I would also very much like to play such a game.
 

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WestMountain said:
STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl with the Oblivion Lost mod is a fun survivalist game :]
I agree when in early to mid game... when you dont have 5000000 ammo and the best guns/armor there is and 8 good artifacts.

Very fun game with that mod.
 

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mechanixis said:
I remember a tale about a hapless adventurer who encountered a giant and, after some struggle, was beaten to death with his own trousers. Just watch out for the carp though. "I think I made fish too hardcore" indeed.


You could try System Shock 2. It's pretty good for making you paranoid about the value of every bullet, health pack, poison and toxin cure.

And you'll never forget the sound effects. Because you'll wake up in the night hearing "babies must sleep" or the hiss of those bastard spiders.
 

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Hubilub said:
Uuhm... Have a Justin Beiber marathon and see if you can survive that? Sounds like a hardcore survivalist challenge.
the OP wanted the Best survival game ... not a certain death :O
 

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Fallot 3 and NV are both better on PC. I suggest you google the required graphics cards that they can play on, and buy one- I got mine, a NVIDIA 800 sumthin, for $30. my pc is stock except for new hds, the card, and a wifi hookup, and at most it crashes, just like on any platform, maybe once or twice every few hours-but only when there is like 20 people shooting at once or because a mod is glitching.

If you play either, you need your skills up higher, or just use VATS and target their heads, its more realistic to the accuracy and power of the weapon, yet cheesy and cinematic which I hate. There is also the blood and guts perk where everything simply explodes when you shoot it.

I still find it amazing that people point out how there heads pop off and how that is "unrealistic" but 200 year old sailsburry steaks and mashed potatoes with a side of spam is believable

Anyways, NV is fun as hell also, but you lose the urban settings in trade to vast emptyness, some cells have no useable function, no caves for hiding, or hidden areas like a random sewer with a radio, yet others have 10. Again, as a long time fallout player, its best on pc, ive played on every platform its out on, and I stick with my pc hands down.

They both have plenty of survivalist themed hideouts, as I am the same way as you, but I only enter settlements to kill or do business-as there are people who love specific items, so I set up caches and outposts for myself and run small trade, killing whoever there is to kill.

Mods are great for this-but beware of the over luxuriousness of them.

Also, Minecraft.
build by day, survive at night from zombies and ghosts, dig caves and find ghouls and gems, smelt your own metals, build everything in the world yourself, but its very lacking in graphics.Still a fun play tho, you will get addicted trying to make tools and dig mines

quick games like last stand 1 and 2 are online and barely lag, even on old systems
Dead Frontier is an online MMORPG with 3rd person graphics that are tits, and is free to play online, You go out either solo or in groups and loot. The farther in you go, the better the loot- but the more you kill, more zombies start showing up, and the farther you go in, the harder the zombies get, kinda resident evil and left 4 dead style.

try Urban Dead or Shartak
Both Browser based MMORPGs that I enjoy, UD is zombie based survival, looting old police stations, hospitals, malls etc, having to find gennies and restore power, rebuilt sieged buildings, form alliances and clans to defend key areas and just stay alive. Huge zombie hordes move from town to town destroying entire settlements and clans, assimilating more power like a wave, and just when you rebuild, another wave comes.
your better off moving from town to town, sleeping in looted destroyed buildings, hoping to shit a zombie doesnt eat you before you wake up and check on the game, and avoiding cultural centers unless u need meds and ammo-either that or joining a clan.

Shartak is an 1800's kinda themed game, almost the same as UD, but theres only about 7 settlements on the Island that are official and about 20 that are just groups of players.
This one is more laid back, less players, and more of traditional rp.
You can be a settler, or a native, with classes like explorer,soldier,warrior,shaman-or even pirate and cannibal, each with there own settlement respectively.

you hunt animals or people, plant crops, chase giant squids and anacondas, or plunder towns, all while everything happens around you.

this game is still in development, and features like construction and such are still being added in, best is that paying players get to vote on what items are next to be installed.
 

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Check out ADOM..

Like Dwarf Fortress adventurer mode but more complete (come on, it's in the title, Dwarf Fortress is about dwarves building invincible doom fortresses and blowing up the world with magma).

Combat is a lot simpler and follow much more standard RPG mechanics. It's still obscenely complicated as any roguelike should be, not to mention aggressively hard, but if that's what you mean by survival give it a shot.
 

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Not too sure if can help you too much, but I too like survival games... I just got STALKER today and its pretty good so far(in terms of survival gameplay) but I can't really think of any console games other than fallout that fit your criteria, which is a pity because I would also like a game like that.
 

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So far i would go with minecraft just be the host in a multilayer lobby if you want to not get lagged to death.
 

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Minecraft is a pretty good survival game, you don't have to eat and drink and stuff like that but surviving against all the mobs is quite a challenge. It's graphically basic too so an old PC could probably run it. Also have you tried the original Fallout games? From what I've heard there alot more survival based than the newer games, an old PC shouldn't have any trouble playing them either.
 

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Not to sound weird, but I suggest Red Dead Redemption. The most fun I got out of the game were the many times I went up north in the woods to hunt some bears, coyotes, etc. Then selling the hide for cash. Very rewarding, and fun as hell.