What are the great Wrpgs of this generation?

[veloper]

To sum it all up: if you're content with a RP-shooter or some action-RPG with one protagonist mowing down all the baddies, then there's a few games of critical acclaim. Else you're out of luck.

Turn-based fans are stuck with Shadowrun, which is a decent snack for a weekend, but the simplified mechanics are too unbalanced right now and half of the game is still in development(Berlin).
Better to make the full transition to the 4X strategy genre then and play a game like FE Legendary Heroes, which is a decent enough 4X and it even has RPG elements.

On the RTWP front it's been very quiet aswell, except for some Kickstarters still in development and Dragon Age. Again easier to make the full switch to RTS and play Dawn of War 2 or something.

Or just play old games, or retro-looking indie games like KOTC, but that's not what the OP asked for, so nevermind.

 

[Ishal]

Lot of Mass Effect 2's in here... strange...

1) KOTOR II- Best story I've experienced in a game ever, period. It puts Bioware to shame. Strong characters, subtle twists, and subtle variations to the Star Wars universe make it better than any of the movies.

2) Skyrim- As said above, haters gon' hate. They can bang on about Bethesda and bugs and whatever else, but there is a reason the game did as well as it did. It's a fantastic game with a fantastic world. So much to do and so many different ways to play. This is the game Zelda wishes it could be.

3) Fallout: New Vegas- Another gem developed by Obsidian. Great game. Characters and factions are interesting and the world is back to the original Fallout games' roots. It was never meant to be dark and grim like Fallout 3.

4) Mass Effect: I'm reluctant to put this here because of my current view of Bioware, but it deserves a place. At the time it was great fun and a breath of fresh air to the gaming world. Good characters, clever narrative, and it was gamey. I'd argue 1 was the best in terms of gameplay since the rest were victims of EA's streamlining broader appeal bullshit.

5) Dishonored: Great atmosphere and city/setting. The world was interesting and I loved the Lovecraftian themes with the Outsider and the whales. The chaos system was interesting and style was something I'm a sucker for. Daud and Havelock were good characters and the DLC's have been enjoyable thus far. I hope that series gets a few more games. If Dragon Age and Mass Effect did, this certainly deserves it too.

Others I might have added.

Didn't play yet
Witcher 2:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Alpha Protocol

Non western

Dark Souls: I know its not western even though in terms of style it pulls it off in ways western devs struggle with. This game would have been number 2 or 3 on that list otherwise.

 

[Eduku]

Of course, you're absolutely right. Everyone else is so wrong and you are definitely right!

Sarcasm aside - yes, as proven by the follow up post complete with links (and references within those links) which educate on the history of the genre, should you take the time to read it, I certainly am absolutely right. Do your own research and you will find that everything I said there is historical fact.

You missed the point of my sarcasm. If you go into and respond to people with an incredibly hostile and quite frankly rude tone like you did in your post few replies, then absolutely nobody will take you seriously, no matter how good your argument may be. In your first few replies, you essentially just said 'you're and I'm right because I say so'. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and 'educate' myself with what you provided.

 

[Eduku]

The tone, as you put it, is mostly imagined by the reader when it comes to the net.
If you are wondering about my current tone - it's mostly annoyed at this point- not rude or hostile.

Now if you don't like the fact that I am dismantling fallacious notions on the RPG genre, creating a cognitive dissonance in yourself because it contradicts what you believed, thus you feel the need to project your own negativity and tonality in my direction, that's your problem, not mine.

And yes, the tone parallels your own sarcasm.
Now I suggest you leave me alone before this devolves into mod wrath territory.

Well, it's disappointing that you don't see what's wrong. Oh well.

I agree, let's end this before it goes too off topic. Good day.

 

[Xdeser2]

Best WRPGs of This generation?

My list would go something like:
(In no particular order)

Dragon Age: Origins

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Mass Effect

Mass Effect 2

Fallout 3

Fallout: New Vegas

The Witcher 2

All in all its a pretty standard group of games for a list like this, but they're my votes nonetheless

 

[GonzoGamer]

Fallout 3 - They made a world you could really get lost exploring and loot you weren't sure if you really needed. It felt real when you were in it. And it was just plain weird. The main story was lame but there were a bunch of other little stories stitched thru out the world buried in various locations and characters. It's probably the closest thing I'll ever play to a Twilight Zone the game.

New Vegas - Made big improvements to the progression of the main story and the weapons but the world felt very cookie cutter and the locations were pretty shallow. But if you're not really into exploring, it's a very good rpg.

Borderlands (2) - More of a shooter but its a lot of fun to progress through and loot weird guns with friends.

DAO - wasn't really my style. It felt like playing DnD with a DM who isn't very creative and will just stick with what's in published adventure manuals.