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Caostotale

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Blow_Pop said:
I can't read Stephen King with the exception of Pet Semetary, Salem's Lot, and From a Buick 8 (I don't know why those 3 don't infuriate me writing wise but some reason they don't and everything else does) but I can listen to the audiobooks of his books.
That's interesting. I'm curious why it's infuriating. I've always found his writing very easy to engage with, which makes it effortless to float along with his imaginative tale-spinning. Books like the uncut version of The Stand and Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass just breezed along, despite being rather lengthy. I would agree that he's certainly not a writer that I would go to for exceptional 'literary' writing (for that, I'd sooner read something by Philip Roth, John Updike, or Joseph Conrad). I've read a few horror/fantasy books by King's comrade Peter Straub, who writes in a far more 'academic' fashion than King, and the books suffer a bit as a result. Maybe I haven't read the right Straub books, but Koko and the aforementioned Shadowland were equal parts repellent and interesting. The writing in both was very good, but things like wonky pacing, shifting perspectives, and way too much abstract symbolism made them tedious as hell.
 

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Caostotale said:
There really are only a King movies that are good. The Frank Darabont films (Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile) are obvious standouts (I haven't yet seen The Mist, but I can imagine it's pretty good). Rob Reiner's Stand By Me (based on the novella The Body) is also great. The original Carrie, Kubrick's The Shining, Misery, and Dolores Claiborne (also starring Ms. Bates) are all good.
OMG, how stupid I feel now forgetting all of those! lol Not sure about The Mist though because I never saw the movie. However, the short story is REALLY good. It's the first one in Skeleton Crew, one of his Richard Bachman books.

Aside from that, most of the movies I remember seeing (and I haven't seen them all) are either campy 'good bad movies' (e.g. Creepshow, Creepshow 2, Sleepwalkers, Needful Things, which might be worth it if only to see Amanda Plummer's performance), forgettable movies (e.g. The Dark Half), or horrible made-for-TV horseshit. All of those mini-series films based on his books (It, The Stand, The Langoliers, Stephen King's The Shining) are absolutely terrible and all-the-worse because they give people a horrible impression of King as a storyteller. I'd rather watch the made-for-TV adaptation of Dean Koontz's Intensity (with John C. McGinley playing a serial killer) than any of those.
Totally agreed with those except Creepshow. ;) It's a bit campy, yes, but the story with Ted Danson and Leslie Nielsen is really tense and creepy (especially the end). Oh, and the first segment, Father's Day. OMG, that story is one of the best pieces of horror ever put to film. The meteor one starring King is fun campy, I'm not a fan of The Crate, but the last one with the cockroaches? Whoa... what a mindfuck!

I also agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of the made-for-TV movies. How can you capture King's unique language and visuals in PG-13?

THAT SAID! I really do recommend watching It, but only because Tim Curry's performance as Pennywise is one the best of his already brilliant career.

 

Blow_Pop

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Caostotale said:
Blow_Pop said:
I can't read Stephen King with the exception of Pet Semetary, Salem's Lot, and From a Buick 8 (I don't know why those 3 don't infuriate me writing wise but some reason they don't and everything else does) but I can listen to the audiobooks of his books.
That's interesting. I'm curious why it's infuriating. I've always found his writing very easy to engage with, which makes it effortless to float along with his imaginative tale-spinning. Books like the uncut version of The Stand and Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass just breezed along, despite being rather lengthy. I would agree that he's certainly not a writer that I would go to for exceptional 'literary' writing (for that, I'd sooner read something by Philip Roth, John Updike, or Joseph Conrad). I've read a few horror/fantasy books by King's comrade Peter Straub, who writes in a far more 'academic' fashion than King, and the books suffer a bit as a result. Maybe I haven't read the right Straub books, but Koko and the aforementioned Shadowland was equal parts repellent and interesting. The writing in both was very good, but things like wonky pacing and shifting perspectives made them tedious as hell.
Because something about his writing makes me want to slap him, tear his books up, and burn them? I've heard (not sure how true or not this is) that he tends to edit his own books which if so could be a factor. It could also be that a lot of his writing seems like same story different shit. But Misery was the last book I tried reading from him about 8 years ago. I only recently tried audiobooks. And truthfully, to me, his work reads better if I'm not actually reading it and just listening to it. I get more engrossed in the story that way. And I know a lot of authors do same story different shit but unless it's a series, they don't seem to do it as blatantly as King does. At least to me. I threw the one Dark Tower book I tried reading across the room because it pissed me off and was so hard to read for me. So I'm just at the point that I'd rather listen to him than read him. And I enjoy MOST of the movies based off his books I've seen. Didn't like The Shining. And I think that's the only one I haven't liked so far that I've seen.
 

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Well, I am currently heavily involve with the The Riftwar Cycle by Raymond E. Feist.
I must say, it is a wonderful series. It has only influenced me to write my own novels.
Though I can only wish to be that good.

Anyway, it all started with Magician. That first books was long, and great. It killed many hours of time, be it spare lunch time, bus time, or just sitting down to read. It was great, it completely immersed me into two worlds, which had lovely characters, and made magic feel like something unique.

I'm only onto the fourth or so book, so I got a long way to go.
 

Caostotale

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Blow_Pop said:
Because something about his writing makes me want to slap him, tear his books up, and burn them?
He's got a few tropes that I can't stand. I hate his addiction to dialogue that can be best described as playful bumpkin bullshit. Often related to that first problem, many of his characters become cartoonish in some way or another, which is just about the quickest way I can be pulled out of a story.
 

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Ten Foot Bunny said:
Oh, I'm talking about King's book, It. It's his most epic piece of writing (IMO, anyway). I've read it three times, which is more than I've read any other book.
ohhhhhhh yeeeeah I did...that was an epic slog....don't think I could manage it again...ut it felt like an acheivment to finish

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SO very true. Except for The Shining, I've never liked any screen adaptations of any of his books. And even with The Shining, King himself said that it was a good Stanley Kubrick movie, but it wasn't HIS book. If you read The Shining, you can see how many liberties Kubrick took with the story, almost to the point where a good 50% of the movie had nothing but King's characters and that was all. Not to mention how the endings are TOTALLY different. I've never been able to wrap my brain around Kubrick's final scene.[/quote]
there was a TV adaptation actually writtin by King...which everyone agrees isn't as good as Kubricks work..again it was more Kubrick than king

[quote/]Allow me to retract what I said above about none of his books making for good movies. ;) I'm too lazy to go back and re-type it. And I totally agree with your comment about Kathy Bates. Everything about her was perfect for the role.
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yeah...there are actually a number of good films based on his work Shawshank redemption which I'm not sure how closely it follows the source material...that's everyones favourite movie

I'd say the biggest exception to all of it is the green mile...I saw the film before I read the book so I'm biased but everything seemed dead on there in terms of adaptation
 

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I'm about to have a second reading through "Fallout: Equestria" (amazing story, that is).
 

hazabaza1

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The Wheel of Time #5/14(!!): The Fires of Heaven/

Really enjoying the series so far, has that nice High Fantasy feeling without being all Elves and Dwarves and such. The way it approaches magic is pretty interesting/fun too, and it's generally pretty enjoyable, even if all the villains are obviously smirking ponces who can be seen from 700 pages away.
Though as of this book I've noticed that the author really has a thing for women either sitting around naked, standing around naked, or getting into their very medieval underwear in many occasions. He doesn't go into details about the precise size and weight of the boobs or how particular their nipples look, thankfully, but the general nakedness happens more often than expected, especially considering how... I dunno, 'Christian' the main characters seem to have grown up as.
 

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Chris Ryans' "Osama"

So far this guy saw the SEAL team go out of that compund in Abottobad with TWO body bags, later the same team take him and other SAS guys as scouts on another op, they have to go through a minefield which was marked with a clear chalk path by bomb crews, but that was sabotaged so his mate got blown up next to him, he goes home with like ptsd or something, thinks he's getting stalked so he takes his family up to a Scottish country cottage, which gets invaded by guys who paralyse him, put a knife in his hand, and then shank his wife with the knife.
So many feels!

I'd recommend The One That Got Away, same author but about himself, when an op in the stan went FUBAR and he conducted the longest escape and evasion in SAS history.
 

DeimosMasque

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Besides my normal weekly comic reading and some new Trade Paperbacks I got recently I FINALLY got around to reading the Star Trek: New Frontier books by Peter David and have been having a blast with them.
 

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Been burning through the Horus Heresy series recently. I've loved 40k lore ever since I started playing it and it's nice to have such a major event fleshed out. I finished 'Know No Fear' the other day and despite the Ultramarines being potentially the most mundane table-top army they have some brilliant tales to them. It was also fun to have a book about the majorly overlooked White Scars too.