It was fun. But it was also a bit short and shallow for my tastes.
(for reference, I was one of the folks who enjoyed ME1 more than 2)
(for reference, I was one of the folks who enjoyed ME1 more than 2)
What are your thoughts on Metro 2033?
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I absolutely love the game. It has the best atmosphere out of all the games I've ever played and although it is fairly linear there are still opportunities to do a bit of exploring.
Hopefully the sequel maintains all that made the first game great but improves the issues with AI and stealth approaches.
Hopefully the sequel maintains all that made the first game great but improves the issues with AI and stealth approaches.
It's alright, but playing it after reading the book makes it look like crap. It's too bright alright, I expected the metro to be pitch black, maybe with even using a new game mechanic noone else tried so far: navigating through levels where you only HEAR and not SEE. Anyway, this is probably godhard to do and it's just a silly game idea my brain farted out when reading the book. Still, navigatin through pitch black tunnels with a single flashlight or in cases bigger light sources would have made a better atmosphere than a series of tunnels lighted with atmospheric green Halloween stagelights.
Point is, yeah it's alright but I could not imagine how they'll make the book into a videogame. The answer is: completely rewrite it, which is bullshit. Yeah, main characters are there (some are renamed though; are they afraid of russian names or what?), some story elements are untouched and all, but overall it's just a bleak reminder of the book. Why couldn't they make a game based in that universe and then maybe make it have a close connection to the book? Why not have a sequel to the book and the game (which is confirmed), and have them lead 2 parallel stories, intertwining and/or eventually merging? I'm also not nitpicking here; for Christ's sake you go on the surface before meeting Khan (happened WAY far in the book and Khan was nowhere then), with a guy who, without spoiling anything, just should't be there, and in broad daylight. Artyom almost dies because of daylight in the book; not only is it lethal, it can blind anyone too.
The most inexcusable thing it has is spoiling the very awesome Outer Limits-esque ending of the book, which makes me ironically wish if they altered that too to a more hollywoodish ending. This is only because the book, as awesome it may be, was a lot unfocused. I rarely use that word, but here I still didn't know where the plot was heading before the last chapter. Surely, the surprising ending all fixed that but it hardly stands as an excuse for it. But try reading the book now, where you know what happens in the end. That one huge redeeming factor to a decent book is spoiled, making it only a decent one instead of a very good one. Man I'm glad I've read the book first.
Anyway, the game part of the game is alright, I didn't care too much about the stealth as at least it doesn't require you to do it, only a suggested way with alternative solutions. The combat is all good, and I like the atmosphere despite bearing no similarities to what I imagined from the book. It's an above average shooter, but I won't recommend it for anyone who wants to read the book. Go get that instead, you should play the game after FINISHING it. Other than that, yeah it's... good.
Point is, yeah it's alright but I could not imagine how they'll make the book into a videogame. The answer is: completely rewrite it, which is bullshit. Yeah, main characters are there (some are renamed though; are they afraid of russian names or what?), some story elements are untouched and all, but overall it's just a bleak reminder of the book. Why couldn't they make a game based in that universe and then maybe make it have a close connection to the book? Why not have a sequel to the book and the game (which is confirmed), and have them lead 2 parallel stories, intertwining and/or eventually merging? I'm also not nitpicking here; for Christ's sake you go on the surface before meeting Khan (happened WAY far in the book and Khan was nowhere then), with a guy who, without spoiling anything, just should't be there, and in broad daylight. Artyom almost dies because of daylight in the book; not only is it lethal, it can blind anyone too.
The most inexcusable thing it has is spoiling the very awesome Outer Limits-esque ending of the book, which makes me ironically wish if they altered that too to a more hollywoodish ending. This is only because the book, as awesome it may be, was a lot unfocused. I rarely use that word, but here I still didn't know where the plot was heading before the last chapter. Surely, the surprising ending all fixed that but it hardly stands as an excuse for it. But try reading the book now, where you know what happens in the end. That one huge redeeming factor to a decent book is spoiled, making it only a decent one instead of a very good one. Man I'm glad I've read the book first.
Anyway, the game part of the game is alright, I didn't care too much about the stealth as at least it doesn't require you to do it, only a suggested way with alternative solutions. The combat is all good, and I like the atmosphere despite bearing no similarities to what I imagined from the book. It's an above average shooter, but I won't recommend it for anyone who wants to read the book. Go get that instead, you should play the game after FINISHING it. Other than that, yeah it's... good.
Incredibly atmospheric. It's a game I wont play in the dark to say the least. I loved the odd accessory things like the hand cranked torch. That and the whole feeling of being behind the gas mask and seeing the condensation and the progressive damage to it as you get hit.
The guns fit perfectly into the game aswell. You're damning them to reload faster or recharge, but they're all you have in all that's left of the underground.
All in all, a very believable (Ok maybe not the mutant telepathic monster thingies, but moreso the reds and the nazis) engaging experience.
If they ever translated it to a film I'd watch the fuck out of it.
The guns fit perfectly into the game aswell. You're damning them to reload faster or recharge, but they're all you have in all that's left of the underground.
All in all, a very believable (Ok maybe not the mutant telepathic monster thingies, but moreso the reds and the nazis) engaging experience.
If they ever translated it to a film I'd watch the fuck out of it.
The only problem with being able to only hear and not see is that people don't pay good money for the experience of blindly fumbling around in the dark. If someone wanted to do that they could simply turn off the lights. No self respecting game studio is going to make audio only sections of in game play, especially considering the amount of time you actually spend in the metro tunnels.Johnnydillinger said:
OT: Awesome game, awesome visuals, truly chilling atmosphere. The enemies were so tough to kill (on the surface that is) that they truly do become fearsome.
I love it's what I ask for from an FPS like that. love the environments, the gameplay, the enemies, and guns.
Sweet fuck do I love the guns.
Big problem is one word: bulletsponge
Sweet fuck do I love the guns.
Big problem is one word: bulletsponge
If the stealth was better I would have loved that game to death. It had the perfect makings to a stealth game but it was buggy.
Other then that it was engaging, a good stroy to keep me interested, and made an apocolyptic world interesting.
Other then that it was engaging, a good stroy to keep me interested, and made an apocolyptic world interesting.
I think it's excellent. As others have pointed out, stealth and AI problems, and I only beat the amoeba level because I found a glitch, but it's easily one of my favorite games.
See, the problem with that is that the human body is capable of far, far more than a tv. Even if we are robbed of our vision, we have an ability to locate anything in our immediate surroundings if it makes a sound. Also, we can feel our surroundings, something that, mercifully for players of combat-based games, games can't enable us to do outside of a controller's vibration function.Johnnydillinger said:
Yeah, good game, i really enjoyed it. Multiple ways past each level, rewards for being dilligent, crazy mad ending that made no sense at all...all the things i love in a fps.
I loved it despite one glaring flaw with the gun play.
I would be sneaking around and attack an enemy from behind I think I was using some silenced rifle. Not the Bastard Gun, and I don't think it was the AK-47 (unless the one you get at the beginning of the first stealth area is silenced)...
Anyways: I would shoot at someone and it would hid them in the head, but it didn't kill them. It would just alert them. You know why? because my bullets/throwing knives where bouncing off the STRAP OF HIS MASK
And without a quick-save function this got annoying really quick. That and I ran out of ammo towards the middle of the library... *shudder*
I would be sneaking around and attack an enemy from behind I think I was using some silenced rifle. Not the Bastard Gun, and I don't think it was the AK-47 (unless the one you get at the beginning of the first stealth area is silenced)...
Anyways: I would shoot at someone and it would hid them in the head, but it didn't kill them. It would just alert them. You know why? because my bullets/throwing knives where bouncing off the STRAP OF HIS MASK
And without a quick-save function this got annoying really quick. That and I ran out of ammo towards the middle of the library... *shudder*
Pretty good game. It was solid in nearly every area. Well, except for the stealth bits, but I ended up shooting my way through those parts anyway. Also, the environments started to blend together by the end. Anyway, a solid 4-star game. Not the best, but still pretty darn good.
The atmosphere was undeniably excellent, dark and dreary with the perfect score and sound effects for almost any given situation. The one thing that nearly killed it for me was the guns and how they worked. Before anyone starts raging at me, I'll admit that the designs of the guns and the 'ammunition currency' thing are kind of cool, but sometimes it just feels like you'd be better off throwing pebbles at the mutant charging towards you. Maybe its supposed to come across that way, but I'm probably one of the people who probably 'don't get it'