What benefits do you get from being Vegetarian?

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steeple

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lRookiel said:
steeple said:
lRookiel said:
If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )
now, I'm not going to say anything against your choice (hey, if you think meat is wrong, then who am I to argue about your beliefs), but what I am going to ask is why kosher is even worse then regular slaughter? as far as I've been told the whole point of it is to be as humane as possible with the animals with a precise blow to make sure no unnecessary pain will happen, and if the first blow doesnt kill the animal at the exact moment then it's not kosher anymore...
dude its awful they don't use sedatives on any of the animals so they are always aware of what's happening.
I'm not an expert on either animal psychology nor animal slaughter techniques, but I'd say slaughtering with sedative isnt any more humane then kosher, but maybe that's me...

by the way, what's your take on cultured meat?
 

Red Bomb

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2 main reasons I don't eat meat.
1 - I actually hate the taste of meat (but love fish and seafood..bugger.)
2 - I could never shake to feeling of guilt when eating meat. I think because I didn't know how they died or were treated in life. Also meat wastage is a huge problem.

ETA: My mum is a vegan but will happily make meat dishes for my step-dad. So in our family hom we have 1 meat eater, 1 veggie & 1 vegan. We all get along, eat what we want and are healthy. No problem!
 

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Elsarild said:
Uzbekistan said:
Well, I am not a vegetarian/vegan but if you don't eat meat you have to eat more fruits/veggies, so yay?

Proven by science: People who mostly eat meat have lots of stamina in short bursts while those who have a more balanced diet will have stamina all day ((Or at least for a few hours))
Not that cool when it has been proven that most vegan diets lead to osteoporosis in middle aged people.

I'll take my energy in short bursts.

OT: I believe the only "good" thing about is that you get less fat and sugar, so I guess that can be considered healthy.

But overall, I believe the best about it, is the feeling most people get when they can say they don't eat meat.
Huh. Never knew.

Side note: Becoming vegan also turns you into an evil boy/girlfriend.
 

The Human Torch

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lRookiel said:
Hey there, I'm the guy you want to talk to then, I'm 18 years old and have been vegetarian ALL MY LIFE, and I've never tried any form of meat yet I'm perfectly healthy.

If your wanting to know what I eat instead to get my protein, look no further!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

Oh and also some nuts (Pistachio's.. nom nom nom)

If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )

And if you want to know the benefits, well, I get to live knowing I've chosen against horrible slaughter because there is no longer need for it, and also I'm still a healthy human being.

Plus Quorn tastes great!
If you don't eat meat, why would you want to eat meat substitutes? I get that you need to eat more eggs and nuts to compensate for the lack of protein, but isn't eating tofu/Quorn basically fooling yourself?

"Look at me, I am a humanoid man who can survive without eating meat, because I find animal slaughter appaling! We do not need meat to survive at all! *noms on fake meat*"

Just seems like masturbation without the added bonus of an orgasm.

In regards to the topic: there are no benefits to being a vegetarian, we are omnivores by nature, and if you eat the right kinds of meat in the proper amounts, you will be healthier for it. Being vegetarian is more about congratulating yourself that you have such sympathy for animals, while in reality the few thousand vegetarians do little to stem the tide of the meat industry.
 

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henritje said:
lRookiel said:
steeple said:
lRookiel said:
If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )
now, I'm not going to say anything against your choice (hey, if you think meat is wrong, then who am I to argue about your beliefs), but what I am going to ask is why kosher is even worse then regular slaughter? as far as I've been told the whole point of it is to be as humane as possible with the animals with a precise blow to make sure no unnecessary pain will happen, and if the first blow doesnt kill the animal at the exact moment then it's not kosher anymore...
dude its awful they don't use sedatives on any of the animals so they are always aware of what's happening.
you don,t have to eat kosher/halal regular meat comes from animals that die immediately (IE cows get a pin through their head killing them instantly)
besides not eating meat isn,t going to save animals.
No, because if everyone became vegan today farmers all around the world had to kill of most of their stock anyways.

The only reason livestock is kept is because of food production/for their hides, unless they have wool...

So yeah it could lead to the cow becoming extinct :p
 

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Being Vegetarian's considerably cheaper for a start. It's also more economical as it's a considerably more efficient use of farmland than meat-farming (meaning that a farm that produces vegetables will feed more people than one that produces meat of the same size) which is something to consider given how large the planet's population is getting. The feeling of having a clearer conscience can be nice too.


Of course on the flipside quite a few meat-eaters react surprisingly badly just to being told you don't eat meat (a lot of vegetarians and vegans can be pricks, but there are people who'll still give you flak about it even if you're civil). It can also be a little trickier finding places to eat out, particularly if your friends aren't vegetarian (although most places now provide vegetarian options).



Elsarild said:
Not that cool when it has been proven that most vegan diets lead to osteoporosis in middle aged people.
Source?
 

tharglet

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Really down to the individual. Both being vegetarian and a meat-eater is fine, as long as you're eating decent meals. Vegan can be more problematic - as someone said - more prone to osteoporosis - which is due to a lack of vegan-suitable calcium substitutes.

Personally, I've been both vegetarian and non-veggie, and hasn't made much odds in my life (parents were veggie so I didn't eat any meat until 16 or so).

Sooo... as far as I've seen, it's only really a personal choice, apart from in certain instances whereby some physical quirk makes a certain diet easier to maintain.
 

uzo

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Humanity evolved eating meat. Even different races have varied digestive systems based upon diet. To simply forsake a vast chunk of your dietary evolutionary history seems somewhat shallow to me ... but then again, obviously, I'm not vegetarian. But that being said, I eat far less meat than most people who, like me, don't give a damn for the animals.

As an adult white male in my 30s, I am well beyond any kind of biological need for eating meat (I don't have the demands for appropriate proteins that a growing child's brain has, for example).

I have to agree with Ickorus' tongue-in-cheek response. Anecdotally, and through my own experience, almost every single vegan/vegetarian from a culture that is not typically vegetarian (ie non-Buddhist, for example) is .. well .. likely to skew towards the 'pretentious' end of the spectrum.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very arrogant. My nickname in one of my prior workplaces was 'Pretentio' (a nickname I came up with myself actually to describe my superiority issues). But someone who tells me they are against animal cruelty, yet wears leather shoes or belts, is a tool. Someone who tells me they think killing cows for meat is sick, yet has no problems squishing a cockroach underfoot, is a tool. It's all moral relativism, a flawed and, frankly, unscientific process.

I was vegetarian, actually, for a period of about 2 yrs. I'd just moved to university. New life, new surroundings. The girl I was interested in (who became my girlfriend and dare I say it almost wife!) was vegetarian. She said 'look, kissing a guy who eats meat makes me heave'. I could respect that. She also didn't like guys who smoked. So I stopped smoking.

As a curious side note, I found stopping smoking much easier than giving up meat. I felt lethargic, weak, and I actually *gained* weight (despite muscle mass reducing) during that period. Whether that is merely coincidence I don't know. I was also having a LOT MORE SEX ... that could explain the lack of sleep and preference for being in bed.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I know nicotine is an appetite suppressant hence many people gaining weight when they stop smoking. But I'm talking over 2 yrs. Nicotine leaves your body in a matter of days.
 

lRookiel

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Monoochrom said:
@lRookiel

Do you also wear a Swimming Vest at all times? Just wondering if your that kid from that south park episode a few weeks ago.
Damn I must have missed that episode haha.

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The Human Torch said:
If you don't eat meat, why would you want to eat meat substitutes? I get that you need to eat more eggs and nuts to compensate for the lack of protein, but isn't eating tofu/Quorn basically fooling yourself?

"Look at me, I am a humanoid man who can survive without eating meat, because I find animal slaughter appaling! We do not need meat to survive at all! *noms on fake meat*"

Just seems like masturbation without the added bonus of an orgasm.

In regards to the topic: there are no benefits to being a vegetarian, we are omnivores by nature, and if you eat the right kinds of meat in the proper amounts, you will be healthier for it. Being vegetarian is more about congratulating yourself that you have such sympathy for animals, while in reality the few thousand vegetarians do little to stem the tide of the meat industry.
You pretty much covered it with the italics there, No there aren't any direct benefits to being a vegetarian, but there's certainly nothing wrong with it either.

Oh and eating Quorn (which is made out of Mushrooms/Fungi) isn't exactly fooling myself is it. since the idea of Quorn being a meat substitute is that it is not just a successful substitute, but a very possible and superior replacement.

EDIT: But hey, everyone has their preferences (Taste, texture etc.)
 

interspark

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19 and vegetarian, dairy products provide all the fat you need, (don't ask me how vegans get on though because i honestly don't know) alot of people say that Quorn sossages taste just like the real thing, while i've never tried real sossages i find that had to believe because quorn tastes like cardboard, HOWEVER! if you spread butter over them before cooking them, they get unbelievably tender and juicy... holy crap, i'm drooling, back on topic back on topic, the benefits are that i've spent my whole life stuffing my face because i love food and i never got fat! not easy to gain weight on a veggie diet. the reason i'm a veggie is because i love animals and i don't think it's fair that they should have to die so we can eat certain kinds of food

edit: also i resent people saying that kids need meat for brain developement, because i've never eaten meat, and i have a 138 IQ and totally owned my GCSEs
 

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uzo said:
Humanity evolved eating meat. Even different races have varied digestive systems based upon diet. To simply forsake a vast chunk of your dietary evolutionary history seems somewhat shallow to me ... but then again, obviously, I'm not vegetarian. But that being said, I eat far less meat than most people who, like me, don't give a damn for the animals.

As an adult white male in my 30s, I am well beyond any kind of biological need for eating meat (I don't have the demands for appropriate proteins that a growing child's brain has, for example).

I have to agree with Ickorus' tongue-in-cheek response. Anecdotally, and through my own experience, almost every single vegan/vegetarian from a culture that is not typically vegetarian (ie non-Buddhist, for example) is .. well .. likely to skew towards the 'pretentious' end of the spectrum.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very arrogant. My nickname in one of my prior workplaces was 'Pretentio' (a nickname I came up with myself actually to describe my superiority issues). But someone who tells me they are against animal cruelty, yet wears leather shoes or belts, is a tool. Someone who tells me they think killing cows for meat is sick, yet has no problems squishing a cockroach underfoot, is a tool. It's all moral relativism, a flawed and, frankly, unscientific process.

I was vegetarian, actually, for a period of about 2 yrs. I'd just moved to university. New life, new surroundings. The girl I was interested in (who became my girlfriend and dare I say it almost wife!) was vegetarian. She said 'look, kissing a guy who eats meat makes me heave'. I could respect that. She also didn't like guys who smoked. So I stopped smoking.

As a curious side note, I found stopping smoking much easier than giving up meat. I felt lethargic, weak, and I actually *gained* weight (despite muscle mass reducing) during that period. Whether that is merely coincidence I don't know. I was also having a LOT MORE SEX ... that could explain the lack of sleep and preference for being in bed.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I know nicotine is an appetite suppressant hence many people gaining weight when they stop smoking. But I'm talking over 2 yrs. Nicotine leaves your body in a matter of days.

Similiar situation, went veggie for a few months and giving up meat was harder than giving up smoking for me as well....Although I am so good at quitting smoking ive managed to do it 9 times..../sarcasm
 

interspark

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lRookiel said:
Hey there, I'm the guy you want to talk to then, I'm 18 years old and have been vegetarian ALL MY LIFE, and I've never tried any form of meat yet I'm perfectly healthy.

If your wanting to know what I eat instead to get my protein, look no further!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

Oh and also some nuts (Pistachio's.. nom nom nom)

If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )

And if you want to know the benefits, well, I get to live knowing I've chosen against horrible slaughter because there is no longer need for it, and also I'm still a healthy human being.

Plus Quorn tastes great!
everything you just said, good call, good call, except the quorn thing, see my earlier mentioned cooking tips for my views on that, i'm sorry i have to add you as a friend now
 

interspark

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Shark Wrangler said:
Our bodies are designed to eat both so it doesn't matter. We have four sharp canine teeth in our mouth and it sure as hell isn't for tearing apart the skin of an apple. We also have the ability to survive without eating meat and you should not be against it. We are designed as predators though, so don't ever let someone who doesn't eat meat tell you otherwise. Our eyes sit in the front of our skull, not off to the side. Our ears are small, like most meat eaters.
actually, we've devolved from predators, we've lost all the natural weapons we had when we were apes, we're now something completely unique and new, surviving with our brains instead of our bodies, which is why we have the right to choose what we want to eat
 

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similar.squirrel said:
Meat is really f-cking expensive. And it makes you feel greasy after eating it.
Try steamed poultry or fish. Or anything gamey (Kangaroo, Rabbit, Deer).
 

lRookiel

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interspark said:
everything you just said, good call, good call, except the quorn thing, see my earlier mentioned cooking tips for my views on that, i'm sorry i have to add you as a friend now
Yay I am loved! :D



I gotta try the butter thing, nom nom sounds yummy!
 

Fasckira

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Ickorus said:
The feeeling of superiority and being able to talk down to people and have them think it's perfectly normal behaviour?
Even though you pointed out it was a joke, its still pretty accurate based on every vegetarian I know. Most go to great pains to tell me how horrible it is how meat is prepared or the issues around how animals are killed and so on.

Only nice vegetarian I knew later switched back to eating meat (the call of bacon was too much).
 

interspark

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Red Bomb said:
ETA: My mum is a vegan but will happily make meat dishes for my step-dad. So in our family hom we have 1 meat eater, 1 veggie & 1 vegan. We all get along, eat what we want and are healthy. No problem!
i'm not sure if that's better or worse than what my step-dad did, he didn't like my mum having the moral highground so just plain made her stop being a veggie, don't get me wrong, i don't know your step-dad so won't judge him, but it just doesn't seem decent to have a vegan cook meat for you