What Bioshock 2 should have been.

[docbox1567]

I just had an AMAZING IDEA. Bioshock 2 should have been a prequel! Think about it. The main problem for me with Bioshock 2 is that the locations look exactly like they did in the original. Now think how awesome it would be if Bioshock 2 took place at the beginning of the good times during rapture and the game consisted of the horrific decline into the world that it was in the original one. There could be corruption, genetic horrors set in a city full of ordinary people that slowly turn into murders. And most of all there could be Andrew Ryan and his slow descent into madness or genius. Now that would be a game that I would have paid to play. I want a happy world that slowly becomes a frightening nightmare. What do you think?

 

[delet]

Hey, there's always Bioshock 3. I liked Bioshock 2 as it was. It fit together and while it didn't have the flare of the first ( and it doesn't seem anyone was expecting that falre either) it was still a nice game that brought me more of the rapture I loved to play.

 

[bassdrum]

Out of curiosity, have you played the multiplayer? Because that's the prequel half... kind of. But yeah, Bioshock 2 did hint at some rising crime (the fact that Adam filled corpses were already lying around in the opening cutscene, set BEFORE the civil war), and that could be a good story to tell. However, it's hard to make a compelling shooter out of a happy society, so we'd have to start somewhere down the descent into madness. And who knows, another Bioshock is all but inevitable, maybe this will be it--plus, that way they get to return to Andrew Ryan, who I found to be a more interesting ideologue than Lamb, mostly because of all the Rand references they threw in.

 

[scnj]

Trouble is it would be telling a story we already found out through audio diaries, so there'd be no great plot twists to get in there. I'm happy to sit back and see where they take it.

 

[bassdrum]

Trouble is it would be telling a story we already found out through audio diaries, so there'd be no great plot twists to get in there. I'm happy to sit back and see where they take it.

Well, they've already retconned in a few characters, unless I completely missed references to Lamb in the first game. There's nothing to stop them from just doing that again and fleshing out the story. Plus, it's one thing to hear about the events and another to actually play through them. So far, the bombing at the Kashmir has been repeatedly referenced, I'd be psyched to have the chance to see it happen.

That's not to say that I wouldn't be happy to see where they go with it, I'm sure that 2K will come up with something.

 

[docbox1567]

"Trouble is it would be telling a story we already found out through audio diaries".

Audio diaries can lie. People lie and there could always be the possibility that what we thought happened from the audio diaries never really happened at all. History is told by the ones carrying a recorder, and how reliable is that?

 

[Nomanslander]

The game we got is great, it's just everyone was expecting a lot more since Mass Effect really upped what to expect in a sequel with their second installment.

What I'd do is focus on what made BS2 work and go from there, I liked the protagonist much more than I did Jack, they just didn't do a lot with him. I like the new antagonist as well, but once again they could have written her better and added more depth to her character.

More variety of enemies, plus enemies to fight while underwater.

They should have allowed freedom to explore Rapture more in an open world sense, turning Rapture into a sprawling maze, plus spent more time making every level look more unique.

Finally, the idea that Rapture is falling apart interested me, seeing the glass break and the level implode with water was an awesome idea, they should have made the experience of such devastation much more intense, being thrown up against the walls as the water came rushing by. Hell, make the game feel like a disaster movie similar to the original Poseidon Adventure, now that would have been effing sweet.

All in all, I think people have been underrated this game a bit since they set their expectations a little too high.

Only thing I can say about what I'd hope for the third installment is a better story, keep Mr. Delta and don't you dare bring Jack back, and don't make us play a Big sister.

 

[bassdrum]

What I'd do is focus on what made BS2 work and go from there, I liked the protagonist much more than I did Jack, they just didn't do a lot with him. I like the new antagonist as well, but once again they could have written her better and added more depth to her character..

It's true that Jack didn't get much character development, but I think that that was the point: he was a pawn, a shell to be manipulated by Fontaine, and any character development would have been based on fictional memories. However, I do agree that Delta had a much more fleshed out persona to him, although that does stem from the fact that he has a long history in Rapture. And I definitely agree about Lamb, Andrew Ryan just held my interest better as a character.

 

[docbox1567]

My only problem is that the location and aesthetic is the same, dreary and awesome. I?ve thought about other sequels and they have different locations. I think it would a fresh idea to start the game when Rapture was new and exciting with happy people that become horrendous murderers. That tonal shift would make me more than happy to come back.

SECOND THOUGHT. What if in Bioshock 3 it would be years later and someone from the outside had returned Rapture to its former glory only to fall in the same trap that Andrew Ryan did.

 

[Altorin]

Bioshock 2's multiplayer seems to be a prequel, and it apparently does a good job with it.

 

[docbox1567]

"Bioshock 2's multiplayer seems to be a prequel, and it apparently does a good job with it."

I don't think it's prequel enough for me. It would be fassinating to get off the sub and see a happy world and watch it turn to crap. It would be a slow start like Half Life 2, but I think it would be worth it.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

I just want to get back to Atlas, Tanenbum, and Ryan being the only voices in your head. they had a colorful cast, but they weren't "different" so much as "someone puts a strobe light in your face and you go blind". and if they get different actors, I'm going to send some sploicers there way with a crowbar or something.

PS: I liked Jack and Delta can go die in a hole. Jack had a sense of, well, vulnerability, he wasn't an unkillable big daddy with a fucking drill for an arm. he was human, you felt for him, you felt his anguish, you felt his pain, you felt his sorrow when he didn't get his happy ending. and worst of all, he was probably put to work in Vietnam as soon as he came up. Delta is a giant, a monster, a freak, and he is a creature of rapture, much like Jack, but Jack was human. Delta was not. Jack was alone and scared, he only had his guns by his side and Fontaine in his head. I liked the game, don't get me wrong, they just didn't make another Bioshock, they made a game in the same universe. now, code yellow.

 

[Nomanslander]

PS: I liked Jack and Delta can go die in a hole. Jack had a sense of, well, vulnerability, he wasn't an unkillable big daddy with a fucking drill for an arm. he was human, you felt for him, you felt his anguish, you felt his pain, you felt his sorrow when he didn't get his happy ending. and worst of all, he was probably put to work in Vietnam as soon as he came up. Delta is a giant, a monster, a freak, and he is a creature of rapture, much like Jack, but Jack was human. Delta was not. Jack was alone and scared, he only had his guns by his side and Fontaine in his head. I liked the game, don't get me wrong, they just didn't make another Bioshock, they made a game in the same universe. now, code yellow.

Umm, ok?

Jack was just another faceless wordless Gordon Freeman without the orange aura for me, a giant plot hole with legs, my top 10 worse game protagonist of all time, and Delta was a major improvement (the Big Daddy at least makes sense to why he never says anything and is faceless).

But to each his own....=/

 

[PrimoThePro]

Hey, there's always Bioshock 3. I liked Bioshock 2 as it was. It fit together and while it didn't have the flare of the first ( and it doesn't seem anyone was expecting that falre either) it was still a nice game that brought me more of the rapture I loved to play.

This. But oh man, I never thought of that. Thats a really good idea, and I would love to see it just as much as you I think.

 

[Altorin]

"Bioshock 2's multiplayer seems to be a prequel, and it apparently does a good job with it."

I don't think it's prequel enough for me. It would be fassinating to get off the sub and see a happy world and watch it turn to crap. It would be a slow start like Half Life 2, but I think it would be worth it.

I haven't played the game, but from what I have seen, there is at least a scene in the intro that shows rapture before the shit hit the fan.

then you have the civil war, which is Bioshock 2's Multiplayer

then you have Bioshock

then you have the majority of the Bioshock 2's main story.

I'll admit it's a little disjointed, but combine that with all of the audio diaries, and you have a pretty good vision of the whole story.

 

[ZeroDotZero]

I just had an AMAZING IDEA. Bioshock 2 should have been a prequel! Think about it. The main problem for me with Bioshock 2 is that the locations look exactly like they did in the original. Now think how awesome it would be if Bioshock 2 took place at the beginning of the good times during rapture and the game consisted of the horrific decline into the world that it was in the original one. There could be corruption, genetic horrors set in a city full of ordinary people that slowly turn into murders. And most of all there could be Andrew Ryan and his slow descent into madness or genius. Now that would be a game that I would have paid to play. I want a happy world that slowly becomes a frightening nightmare. What do you think?

You should try the multiplayer. As you progress through the ranks, Rapture falls into decline.