What do you have against The Witcher series?

[Danbo Jambo]

The whole "juvanile approach" is baffling. As a bloke in his mid-30's who's lived a fair bit in villages in the middle of England, TW2 is a fair reflection of the mentalities and lives I'd say.

What is it that people see as "juvanile"? The attitude to sex is pretty much bang on in terms of realism, as is all the cursing, drinking, fighting, racism and rowdy behaviour. Reminds me of late local mining villages in the 80's & 90's where you were bought up to go out on a Friday night for a "fuck or a fight"

Not everyone comes from such a place with such attitudes, though.

"Realistic" for some doesn't necessarily equate to "mature" for others.

True, but the setting for TW2 is essentially based on such places - medival, working class England. And the farms, local pubs and areas around here are still rooted in that era, as it's still quite detatched from modern technology and culture. You'd be very surprized to see just how similar the attitudes and behavior are tbh.

Yeah I see a lot of so called "lad culture" of heavy drinking, misogyny, and violence of section of the working class small-town Britain in the "everyday folk" of The Witcher. It's vile, but it's a realistic portrayal of medieval culture. Not everyone is enlightened free thinkers like in Lord of the Rings or Dragon Age. People were backward and stupid and violent back then, and cruel things entertained them because life was so shit. It's quite refreshing to see a game act like that rather than being politically correct or boring high fantasy tropes.

Also, a game having a misogynistic setting and misogynistic characters does not make it misogynistic.

I agree Triss and Geralt's relationship, with Yennefer back in TW3 it could be even more interesting. Their complex casual relationship and Triss' manipulations to make Geralt's hers makes it incredibly tragic. Geralt has to bring his memory back and Triss has to help him, for his sake, even though she knows she is possibly dooming her one chance at happiness with a man by bringing back those memories of Yennefer. It's really well written and complex and it's a shame most people just see it as "tits and arse OMG juvenile and misogynist".

In fact with the people who accuse it of being juvenile, it seems like they're a bit embarrassed for it. The fact with The Witcher is that is celebrates it maturity and isn't being edgy for the sake of being edgy, it just treats most of it's mature content matter-of-factly instead of something to be embarrassed of.

Superb summary *tipshat*. I suppose it's actually a good thing that it's seen as juvanile - shows the world's a more enlightened place overall But if you ripped out modern trappings, ignore magic & fantasy races and you could easily mistake my village for Flotsam.

Personally, I love the fact that TW2 has captured that. It's been commonplace for hundreds of years, and just makes the game ooze with realism for me.

The matter-of-fact approach to it makes it absolute quality in my book.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

The first game was just so god awful boring. I managed to get halfway through the second act and then I just lost all interest.

 

[go-10]

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but... for me every character felt like Jar Jar Binks

I just couldn't care for the characters despite how good the premise was.

 

[endtherapture]

I found this interesting video about why The Witcher is a mature game which is a good watch.