I haven't played that. The only other AvP game I've played is the side scrolling beat-em up arcade game.Chimpzy said:
What do you think are the most Underrated games of all time?
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Ok, GOW3 probably has it in graphics, but that's really it. Even the ending fight of Heavenly Sword feels more epic than GOW3 and that's what GOW is supposed to excel at.Casual Shinji said:
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Brink: Ok it's not the best game ever made but it was pretty fucking awesome. Don't care what people say, I enjoyed it and wish it kept a player base.
Tyranny: Not so much underrated but more just not enough people have hear of it. PLAY IT! ITS AWESOME!
Fallout New Vegas: It's the best of the 3D Fallouts. Anyone who's subjective opinion says other wise is objectively wrong.
Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning: While it is essentially another massive open world grindathon, its at least a massive open world grindathon with good rpg combat and nice visuals. If you like those sort of games you really should check it out. I just don't get why other games got away with it but this was left in the dust.
First thing that comes to mind is Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. It had the misfortune of being on mostly dead consoles, never getting a PC port and coming out after most people had given up on the Silent Hill series but it's the second best story in the entire series, has a great athmosphere and good graphics, considering the hardware it was on. It may not have been a Silent Hill 2, but what is? It's still a game that touched me deeply, I did actually cry at the end.
I'm also very much willing to defend Homefront: The Revolution. I've heard it was massively bugged and had major performance issues on release so maybe the bad reviews are not entirely unjustified but playing it in it's cjrrent state... you know, it's a fairly good game. Unforgiving in a way many people will surely find frustrating but I think it really drives home that feeling of guerilla warfare. Openly engaging enemies is usually a bad idea, you need to be quick and fight dirty if you want to survive. Also, strong art design, stellar graphics... it's a pretty alright game.
I'm not gonna bring up stuff like Deadly Premonition or Killer 7 because those have become cult classics at this point. What I will bring up is a fairly little known PS2 game called Steambot Chronicles. It's an open world rpg in a world that is best described as very optimistic steampunk. Think of some of Miyazakis more lighthearted stuff like Kiki's Delivery Service. You ride a trotmobile, which is kinda like a very primitive mech, that you can customize and accompany your girlfriend and her band all over the world on their tour. It's an absolutely delightful game and very opend ended and player driven too, in a way that would make Bethesda blush. You can play music, join a gang, there are a lot of branching questlines... man, it really deserves to be known better.
I'm also very much willing to defend Homefront: The Revolution. I've heard it was massively bugged and had major performance issues on release so maybe the bad reviews are not entirely unjustified but playing it in it's cjrrent state... you know, it's a fairly good game. Unforgiving in a way many people will surely find frustrating but I think it really drives home that feeling of guerilla warfare. Openly engaging enemies is usually a bad idea, you need to be quick and fight dirty if you want to survive. Also, strong art design, stellar graphics... it's a pretty alright game.
I'm not gonna bring up stuff like Deadly Premonition or Killer 7 because those have become cult classics at this point. What I will bring up is a fairly little known PS2 game called Steambot Chronicles. It's an open world rpg in a world that is best described as very optimistic steampunk. Think of some of Miyazakis more lighthearted stuff like Kiki's Delivery Service. You ride a trotmobile, which is kinda like a very primitive mech, that you can customize and accompany your girlfriend and her band all over the world on their tour. It's an absolutely delightful game and very opend ended and player driven too, in a way that would make Bethesda blush. You can play music, join a gang, there are a lot of branching questlines... man, it really deserves to be known better.
This nonsense again.
I suppose underrated might as well mean "not talked about enough". I can think of a bunch of great PS2 games that nobody talks about or remembers because they never spawned sequels or were simply overshadowed by similar, more publicized games. Mercenaries, The Warriors, GUN, Odin Sphere, Darkwatch...
I suppose underrated might as well mean "not talked about enough". I can think of a bunch of great PS2 games that nobody talks about or remembers because they never spawned sequels or were simply overshadowed by similar, more publicized games. Mercenaries, The Warriors, GUN, Odin Sphere, Darkwatch...
No way. Ico maybe but I found SotC a much better game. Last Guardian is a unique game for sure but I detest having to depend on an A.I. to progress through the environments. Whatever gameplay there was wasn't fun and the story also lacked the ambiguity that made SotC so good. Other than the creature the graphics weren't great either and looked pretty much identical to SotC. I'd say Last Guardian is actually overrated simply for being part of an impressive lineage(even it took them 11 years to make).Phoenixmgs said:
Oh yeah I remember that game. I found the battle system unnecessary convoluted and the stunts they pulled off with their guns looked really stupid. It was cool that you could assemble your own Frankenstein gun but the battle themselves just weren't fun having to mix 'scratch damage' and other kinds of damage it was a chore. Characters were also uninteresting and the story didn't pick up till the final third or so. I only persevered b/c Tri Ace also made Valkyrie Profile 2 which was probably one of my most favorite titles on PS2(probably a much more underrated gem). The battle system in that game was bordeline convoluted but Resonance went completely overboard. The story and characters in Silmeria though I absolutely loved. Graphics and environments were also gorgeous.
Anyways speaking of JRPG's I'd say the Digital Devil Saga games are definitely underrated. It's all Persona, Persona and while these games are fantastic don't get me wrong I want me a new DDS game!
Call of Duty games.
Yes, they sell well but most people seem to hate them, even going as far as saying that they're "ruining gaming".
It's a solid multiplayer FPS franchise with a tacked on single player mode. Nothing revolutionary but the games are fun and easy to play.
Yes, they sell well but most people seem to hate them, even going as far as saying that they're "ruining gaming".
It's a solid multiplayer FPS franchise with a tacked on single player mode. Nothing revolutionary but the games are fun and easy to play.
If you liked High Road, then please please please seek out the original Crimson Skies on PC. You owe it to yourself. Everything you've listed was done reasonably well in the xbox game, but is cranked up to 11 in the PC original. I cannot emphasise enough how much better the PC game is to the already quite well-made Xbox game. As far as arcade flight combat games go, I would seriously say that Crimson Skies on the PC is perhaps second only to TIE Fighter for the crown of greatest arcade flight combat game of all time. The whirling dogfights, colossal clashes of zeppelins (with location based damage this time, not the 'anywhere will do' system on xbox) and immense lore and little details that bring the game to life make the game a true joy from start to finish, with enough intrigue to keep you genuinely invested in what comes next in the story, not just who you get to shoot down in the next missionAmerican Tanker said:
The only thing I didn't like about The Last Guardian was the narration decision but outside of that it felt just like ICO or Shadow in puzzle design, it had that organic feel that just about every puzzle game just doesn't have. I was worried the game wouldn't feel like a Team ICO game as Ueda was in and out of development (I think) and Santa Monica came in to help, but within the first 10 minutes, I knew the game was going to be a real Team ICO game.stroopwafel said:
I don't think the battle system was unnecessarily convoluted, it was just hard to explain really. Then, once you get it, the battle system becomes pretty simplistic and repetitive, the same strategy works for every fight. It's nice to see JRPGs with battle systems that actually make positioning integral vs the old standard of heroes on one end and baddies on the other. And the main 3 characters were pretty good with the game also lacking any super annoying characters that seem to be a staple of JRPGs and anime.
Yaaaaasssss. I dunno that'd say better then RDR since they play very differently but this was a gorgeous, bizarre outing in the Oddworld...err...world. If you haven't played it, it's one of the more unique games I've played in my day.Bealzibob said:
These are not as much underrated, as virtually unknown outside Germany/central Europe. Sadly.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I will fully admit to being one of those people who got lost when they started bringing in the sonic voice devices and really wild stuff. The first game is definitely a sentimental favorite of mine and I always play a few hours of it every year around Halloween. It feels a little dated now with the doors requiring specific weapons and copious backtracking at times, but Condemned 1 oozes atmosphere and really had a personality all it's own. Both games did, and it's a shame the franchise seems to be done for good.Xprimentyl said:
OT: I agree with a lot of the callouts in this thread already. Shadows of the Damned, Strangers Wrath, Crimson Skies. I've always thought that The Darkness was rather underratd. I know it has its fans and got a (bad) sequel, but it was a very different type of shooter/horror game that had amazing voice acting and atmosphere. Both the city and WWI sections were really well done and I thought the writing was great. Plus, the guy who does the voice of The Darkness itself was amazing.
I'll go with Fallout 3 since everyone seems to ignore it nowadays and i'll also chuck in Fallout tactics aswell. Both games have stolen a hell of a lot of my time over the years and while i do like all the series i find these 2 to be the most underrated and least talked about.
Not directly, but, well, here's how I've perceived critical opinion on Sonic to be.Canadamus Prime said:
-Colors/Generations: Finally, good 3D Sonic games. Don't you know he's never worked in 3D?
Me: Huh? I liked Adventure 1, 2, and even Heroes at the end of the day. Shadow and 06 were pretty drab though, but are we forgetting the early titles?
-Pre-Mania: "Sonic was never good."
Me: Huh? Could you actually look at your own reviews?
-Mania: Finally! A good Sonic game! We haven't had one of those since Sonic & Knuckles
Me: But I thought you guys really liked Colors and Generations?
Mania is what's really noticable, how numerous reviews often started with the premise that there was a dearth of quality content between S&K and Mania, mimicking the Colors and Generations sentiment that there was no good 3D games prior to this. Even if one believes Sonic doesn't work in 3D, that argument still has to ignore the 2D games that came out in the period (e.g. the Advance and Rush series).
And I'll be clear, there's without doubt some absolute Sonic stinkers (Sonic R, Secret Rings, and by all indications, Rise of Lyric), but the stand-outs always seem to be pushed back. At the time, everything I read/everyone I talked to loved SA1/2, but now it's regarded as a failure. At the time, everyone was raving about Colors and Generations, but now they seem forgotten since Mania.
Sorry mate, we need A-support for that.spartandude said:
That's underrated? Everywhere I look people seem to mimic your claims - that Obsidian is better than Bethesda, that New Vegas is better than Fallout 3, etc. Don't have a horse in this race myself, but from my view, New Vegas is very popular.spartandude said:
Case in point.CannibalCorpses said:
Freelancer! Startopia! Anachronox!
Also:
One Finger Death Punch
Lost Empire - Immortals
Imperium Galactica II
Harbinger
Hellgate London
Darkout
I'd be surprised if you've even played most of these..
Also:
One Finger Death Punch
Lost Empire - Immortals
Imperium Galactica II
Harbinger
Hellgate London
Darkout
I'd be surprised if you've even played most of these..
Well this is the Sonic fanbase we're talking about. The ones who threw a conniption because Sonic had green eyes in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1.Hawki said:
I know what you mean though. There was a time where I wondered if I'd been transported to an alternate Universe where the Sonic Advance games didn't exist because everyone seemed to have forgotten about them and kept going on about how Sonic needs to go back to being 2D and whatever. I even made a comment to that effect on this site. I loved the Sonic Adventure games, even though looking back the voice acting in the original Sonic Adventure was atrocious. Sonic Adventure is one of the few games I've 100%ed. The long and short of it is that, yes some of Sonic's games haven't aged well, but to say that there has been no good Sonic games since S3&K is blatantly false.