What do you think of men passing abortion laws?
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yes women SHOULD have the right to choose.SeeIn2D said:
No men should have no say.
to add- I understand if a woman gets pregnant and the man wants it, and she doesn't that can be hard, but if you're gonna have sex with someone shouldn't it be with someone you love, and you've discussed having children... dream i live is pretty by the way.
But to what extent? Just because it's a majority opinion, doesn't mean it's the morally right one. Think of votes that excluded woman from voting, Segregation laws etc. At some point it was a minority who believed those were the moral perogative.Fluoxetine said:
I do believe abortion should be legal.
But I also believe that the father should have an equal say in it as the mother does. And if one parent wants the child but the other wants an abortion the child should be the sole responsibility of the parent that wanted it.
But I also believe that the father should have an equal say in it as the mother does. And if one parent wants the child but the other wants an abortion the child should be the sole responsibility of the parent that wanted it.
That's not what a Republic is, and yes. the US is a Republic. It is sometimes clled a "Democratic Republic," but it is a republic.DJjaffacake said:
Yes, and yes.
I don't particularly think areas of legislation should be relegated to specific genders (even if that's what they primarily concern), although I do find it both telling and disturbing that pro-lifers are generally male, and it's predominantly men passing laws.
I don't particularly think areas of legislation should be relegated to specific genders (even if that's what they primarily concern), although I do find it both telling and disturbing that pro-lifers are generally male, and it's predominantly men passing laws.
Eh, scrap that post, wasn't paying attention to what you were replying to. Jumped the gun with that one.Zachary Amaranth said:
Yeah, and the supreme power in China and North Korea most certainly does not lie with the people.Wolverine18 said:
1) Pro Choice 100%. America is not a Theocracy, people need to keep their Religion out of my Politics.
2) I don't have a problem with men voting on the laws. I DO have a problem with people trying to pass legislation based on religious views. I also have a problem with all male groups discussing women's health, which has happened in this country.
2) I don't have a problem with men voting on the laws. I DO have a problem with people trying to pass legislation based on religious views. I also have a problem with all male groups discussing women's health, which has happened in this country.
What you described is a direct democracy, the US is a representative democracy, they're two sides of the same coin.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
I'm not saying the US isn't a republic, I'm saying a republic and a democracy are different things.Zachary Amaranth said:
Why should a man not have any say? (I take it you meant "No, men should have no say" instead of the double negative you wrote.) The child is as much the man's as it is the woman's. Yes, she carries the child, but it could still be in the man's heart. And what if a man isn't ready to be a father? He shirks the responsibilities thrust upon him by society and is instantly the devil incarnate.Beautiful Tragedy said:
My government and politics class uses direct [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy] and representative [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy] democracy, and wikipedia agrees with me.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Doubt that actually. The only difference between you and the majority on this forum is that you first note you wouldn't want one when personally concerned.The Artificially Prolonged said:
Likewise pretty sure that many vocal supporters of abortion would love to have kids themselves. It's not called "Pro-choice" for nothing.
Anyhow, back on topic: isn't it slightly weird to assume that by virtue of being the right gender you get a decidedly bigger say on issues that still don't personally concern you? If you'd compare the experiences, outlooks, and environment of eg. a 60 year old lawmaker who's worked their way up from the bottom, and a 22 year old literature student from a titled (and stinking rich) family, then you'll find that gender is a relative minor factor.
Just sayin', but a republic is a democracy. The only reason it has a specific name is to mark the difference with a constitutional monarchy - which also is a democracy.DJjaffacake said:
It's quite funny though to see this argument over names.
1. Kill all the fetuses you want. They're not worth a thing.
2. If that's who was voted in, I think they can do enough research to make an informed decision.
2. If that's who was voted in, I think they can do enough research to make an informed decision.
I don't think anyone should vote on how another person deals with their body. I don't personally believe in abortion, however I am very pro choice. Also, I'd vote a woman in if we'd stop getting the crazy women who are just as bad as some of the men who want to be in congress.
How does that work if the woman was raped and she doesn't know her rapist or if she has no contact with the man who got her pregnant? Or if it's a case of molestation or something like that? I'm not saying that's a bad idea, on the contrary I LIKE that idea I'm just curious as I've never heard of that. What country was this in(presuming it wasn't in Japan since you said foreign friend)?Frungy said:
1) Yup, pro-abortion here.
2) Well gee, I don't really think anyone should be allowed to control another person's body, it's not any better if a woman is controlling a woman than if a man is controlling a woman. Though, it's still a democracy the US, so if one gender can pass laws about it, the other should to, otherwise we get in a really fucking bad situation.
2) Well gee, I don't really think anyone should be allowed to control another person's body, it's not any better if a woman is controlling a woman than if a man is controlling a woman. Though, it's still a democracy the US, so if one gender can pass laws about it, the other should to, otherwise we get in a really fucking bad situation.