What do you think should be a crime?

[Vaishnav Reddy]

Cheating on someone whom your married to should be punishable by death. Preferably in a slow painful way like drowning or Hell let's go Biblical and stone the person who does it.

Theft (yes I know its already a crime) should be punishable by death except in the rare occurrence where you would be dead for not stealing but only if the theft occurred non violently and without threats. (like homeless stealing food)

Having more than 1 kid should be a crime. In fact I'd go a step further than China and make it so after someone has there first kid both the mother and the father have 3 choices either be chemically castrated, commit ritual suicide, or pay a fine of 10 million dollars. (note women impregnated via rape are not exempt if they do not want it to be there 1 kid they should get an abortion. of which all should be free)

Abusing animals should be punishable by death.

I'm not sure if you are being serious , sarcastic , trolling us.

The thread asked my opinion and I gave a serious answer.

Okay.

Let's just see what would go horribly wrong if all of those laws were enforced.

1.Cheating-: Torturing a person to death just because they chose to have sex with one person while already in a relationship with another is so ridiculous that I just can't speak.It would result in a sharp dip in the population , mostly male. Humans are just simply not monogamous by nature.

2.Theft-: A lot of so called ' thieves ' steal out of desperation and are not really career thieves. Besides , the punishment should be proportionate to the crime and the thief should not be killed for one mistake. Exception -: In the cases where ( the evil snake-headed overlords of our society ) steal billions , I wholeheartedly agree with you.

3.Population control-: Due to the fact that they are going to be castrated , have to comit ritual suicide or pay 10 mil , most people will choose not to have kids.This means there is a sharp ( 99% ) drop in the working , middle class populace within a generation. Sharp drop in population equals anarchy.

I'm sure glad you aren't legislating in my country.
Oh, and IMO monogamy is bad.
I anxiously await your reply.( not sarcasm)

captcha-: have an inkling.

1. Then don't get married if you can not stay loyal to whom your married to.
(in answer to your comment @ bottom of quote) Monogamy is not bad however if you want to sleep with many people then do it as a bunch of 1 night stands, or @ least break up with whomever your fucking before you start fucking someone else. Cheating on someone is unequivocally wrong and should be punished by death.
No one wants to come home and find there wife\girlfriend\boyfriend\husband fucking the neighbor. Honestly if I ever found out my girlfriend (if I had one of course) was cheating on me I'd gladly shoot her and who she was cheating on me with with a shotgun to the head.

2. Most thieves steal to make a quick buck out of laziness due to not wanting to have a real job or to fuel addictions. Besides that theft is one of the 2 most abhorrent crimes one can do (along with rape) so if we give the death penalty to all thieves the phrase "and nothing of value is lost" would never have been more true. After all no one will miss lazy scum or drug addicts. and even if there not lazy good for nothings not wanting to work or a drug addict there still a thief and despite what you said most thieves do not steal from desperation but from a need to take advantage of others to make a quick buck.
People who steal are less than human scum that deserve to die in the most painful ways possible.

3. All of this is purely speculation. Post proof that people will still choose not to have kids if the laws were stringent enough to force them to have only 1. Most people want to leave some kind of legacy. Most do such by having urchins of there own. Besides most of the world is religious in one form or another. Most of them would continue to have kids due to not wanting abortions.
The only thing you could possible argue is that 1 kid per family is to little. If so then 2 kids per person would be ok. But the end result after the second kid would still be chemical castration, ritual suicide, or 10 million dollar fine for both parents upon getting there 2nd kid.

1.I'm not saying cheating is not bad. All I am saying is that when we enforce monogamy upon a polygamous species , the result is violent reactions from people like you. That's only because you have been conditioned to believe that sleeping with two different people in a relatively small time-frame is the worst thing you can do. That's your personal belief and I respect that , but you should not go about enforcing your beliefs on everyone. I am an advocate of open relationships , open societies and such , but you don't see me going about trying to abolish marriage.

2.Ever consider why the ' lazy scum ' or ' addicts ' steal? I admit that stealing is bad but you should understand the motivation of the thief before you pass an immediate death sentence.
Is he doing it out of desperation , is it a white collar crime , what is the value of the commodity he stole and so on.The punishment should depend on these factors. I feel sad that you don't seem to believe in second chances.

3.Yes , it is speculation but I am confident it is pretty accurate.You want to enforce this on the entire world and assuming you are successful this is the scenario it will result in-:

poor dude -:

You have your first kid. You think about having a second kid and its consequences.
You have to either 1.chemically castrate yourself ( i.e. permanent disfiguration and no more testosterone , so you won't be a " real " man anymore. ) 2. Commit ritual suicide ( I don't need to tell you why that would be unappealing. ) 3. Pay 10 million dollars ( I highly doubt everybody has that kind of cash .)

So , in conclusion , they have one kid at best.
PS-: This scenario also applies to the middle class , upper middle class and upper class.

The only people who would have a second kid are the ones who have 10 million bucks handy.
exception -: Some people might choose having a second child over chemical castration but I assure you that they will be in the minority.

This again results in a really sharp dip in population especially in the working and middle classes resulting in fewer manufacture of basic goods. By the time you react it will be too late or at the very least you cause serious harm to this civilization.

 

[Cazza]

Yelling in parliament. It's terrible these people run our country but put them together and they argue like 5yr. Yelling & name calling etc it's disgusting. Parliamentary privilege should not extend to that. It's abuse of the system and doing it should be finable.

 

[FalloutJack]

All rapists are to be punished by a nuclear fuel rod suppository, and pedophiles get a battering ram up the ass.

Murderers get tied up and left in the room with the next of kin and an array of innocent-looking weapons, no questions asked. If there is no next of kin, close friend, or just someone willing to work off a bit of steam...welcome to the only legal application of police brutality. Variations on this may be applied to assault, harassment, and talking loudly in the theater. We want it to be...special.

Hypocrites will get a slap in the face and a court order to either do as they say they do, or say as they actually DO.

Liars will get two slaps in the face, and a live carp down their pants with pictures as embarassing blackmail for the police to use.

Illegal blackmailers will have to give regular 'donations' or it'll be revealed that they are in fact whatever is politically discouraged at the time.

Pyromaniacs are to be burned at the stake. It's what they really wanted, anyway. This applies to arsonists who aren't insane as well.

Anyone with authority caught abusing it really stupidly, like as in to make themselves feel important, will have that power revoked and good luck getting anything in this bloody recession.

Anyone who's ever set a bomb in a place is to be sent to prison and regularly put in solitary confinement with a roomful of lit fireworks. If it was a suicide bomber, well...terrorism isn't my department.

Stealing should be met with your valuables being ousted from your residence. If you're stealing to survive because there's no food or something, we'll work something out, but you're on probation, mate.

Committing any sort of crime at all because god said so requires that you spend a term in prison with a copy of whatever religious text you follow until you figure out that god never said 'Kill they neighbors' or anything, and then AFTER you get the point, one of the above punishments for whatever it was. If you meet your maker then, you can try explaining there because that's not my department.

Complaints about anything really petty or stupid shall be met with - as a requirement - a roaring succession of laughter and an escort to the door OUT.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Other rational countries should follow suit with Germany and make infantile circumcision illegal.

If religion EVER wants to be taken seriously it needs to give leeway to the laws of a country that are made for people's rights.

 

[Shaved Apple]

Drinking. Do something else to cope.

 

[funkzillabot]

People who threaten to kill or rape other people, and then think it's a fucking joke. Oh, wait....

 

[DrunkenMonkey]

I want to say being an all around prick, but I doubt the jails would be able to hold the first batch.

 

[thePyro_13]

I would target a law to control dishonest media better. They happily say things which are known to be completely false, and make bold assertions of deceitful claims.

Media companies, individual journalists(including those who work for the media companies) and politician should be fined for making false claims.

It would end alot of sensationalism and bigotry in the media. And might make politics into a legitimate field.

 

[Souleks]

Drinking. Do something else to cope.

Because we all know what happened last time.

I say we ban furry suits
Think of the children.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Walking slowly in front of me in public.
Just move out the way! Don't walk in threes because I cannot slip by!

OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS.
If you're going to walk slowly, at the very least stick to one side of the sidewalk and walk straight so I can walk past you. I have to resist the urge of punching those people in the liver every day of my life.

 

[axlryder]

Have you recently been cheated on by your wife/husband? If so, I am very sorry, but to make it a crime is a terrible idea as the act of having sex with another women/man/hermaphrodite beside the one the you said a few words to is not harmful to anyone.

You're either a sociopath or have never been in a relationship before if that's what you think.

The point is that the government should stay out of you bedroom. The act of sleeping with someone else does not endanger or destroy you freedoms, which is what the law is suppose to prevent in the first place.

Granted, adultery usually leads to divorce and a splitting of resources but it is not written anywhere that that course has to be taken. I know some people who are married but allow each other to sleep with other occasionally. Under a new law against it, they could not.

I know where you were coming from, but your initial phrasing was very poor. Non-consensual adultery can cause severe emotional damage to not only the spouse, but also any other immediately affected member of the family. It also likely causes a greatly increased risk of violent outbursts between two individuals (outbursts that might be categorized under temporary insanity). I don't agree that it should be illegal, but the idea that "it doesn't hurt anyone" is pretty ridiculous, and I wouldn't be against some kind of reasonable proposal to implement practices that would help avoid it. Also, just because things like cuckolding and open relationships exist doesn't mean lawmakers would completely turn a blind eye to any potential damage a similar action would cause in a more typical situation. Just because physical abuse is illegal doesn't mean all forms of S&M suddenly are. Obviously consent and various other factors are taken into consideration when writing laws. What's more, laws aren't necessarily there just to solely protect your "freedom".

 

[Hawkeye21]

Stupidity.

Yeah, it would be pretty hard to enforce, but hey, the world would be a better place for it.

Me, despise idiots? Yes.

lol yeah... like somebody suggested on the internets:

"We should remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself"

 

[Insomniac55]

DUI already is a crime, but I feel it should carry sentencing more along the lines of Attempted Murder. If you think your good time is worth potentially costing someone their lives because you can't thing straight, you should be locked up.

Yeah, penalties for this need to be tough. I don't think current laws are strong enough in this regard.


I think pregnant women who drink or smoke should be charged with child abuse. I don't care what someone does to their own body, but the child doesn't have a choice. If you can't get off the smokes or the drink for the nine months it takes for a child to develop, then get an abortion.

 

[DarthSka]

Only thing I can think of at the moment is abortion where the mother's life isn't in danger.

 

[DeadpoolPwnz]

I think it should be illegal to lie about your age to anybody, and any crime directly caused by lying about your age shouldn't count as a crime. eg. You lie about being 21 in a bar, the bartender should not be charged with selling alcohol to an underage person. Or, you lie about your age and have sex with someone, that person should not be charged statutory. Many applications to this one actually. I think the punishment should be at least a $500 fine and a year of supervised probation

 

[Colour Scientist]

No, having a child is a conscious decision that two people make (in an ideal situation.)

That almost rarely happens.

If those two people are incapable of properly caring and providing for that child then why should they be allowed to bring it into the world, just because they can?

That's like saying 'oh I can shoot heroin into my arm, it's my body, so why does the government say I'm not allowed to?'

How do you plan on enforcing this? Forced abortions? Taking a newborn away from their mother immediately after birth? Forced sterilization? What qualifies as being an unfit parent?

Not having enough money? Spending too much time at work? Does there have to be two parents? Not a big enough house? Having a ridiculous surname? Not educated enough? Too educated?

What are you going to do to qualify the parents? IQ test? Means test?

I hate it when people bring up the idea of "child licenses", it's fucking retarded. I also find that the people who do have very little real world experience with parenting and children.

Also, did you just compare having a child without the Governments permission to shooting up heroin?

 

[rob_simple]

No, having a child is a conscious decision that two people make (in an ideal situation.)

That almost rarely happens.

If those two people are incapable of properly caring and providing for that child then why should they be allowed to bring it into the world, just because they can?

That's like saying 'oh I can shoot heroin into my arm, it's my body, so why does the government say I'm not allowed to?'

How do you plan on enforcing this? Forced abortions? Taking a newborn away from their mother immediately after birth? Forced sterilization? What qualifies as being an unfit parent?

Not having enough money? Spending too much time at work? Does there have to be two parents? Not a big enough house? Having a ridiculous surname? Not educated enough? Too educated?

What are you going to do to qualify the parents? IQ test? Means test?

I hate it when people bring up the idea of "child licenses", it's fucking retarded. I also find that the people who do have very little real world experience with parenting and children.

Also, did you just compare having a child without the Governments permission to shooting up heroin?

Getting pregnant is usually unplanned; having the baby is an entirely conscious decision.

Yes, I am talking about forced abortions, in extreme cases. In others, if having the child can't be stopped, then they'll at least be closely monitored from the onset. There is a huge problem in the civilised world with children being born to unfit parents. Every time a baby dies and it's on the news there are always people going, 'oh but what could we have done.' Um, maybe not left the kid with that junky ***** of a mum, for a start.

And yes, I think you should be of a certain level of intelligence to have a child. I don't mean you need to have gone to university, or have even graduated high school, but you should be able to display that you are capable of functioning as a human being before you commit to bringing another one into this world. Speaking of world experience, when I walk through a shop in Glasgow and hear a mum shouting at her kid to, 'fucking get in your fucking chair' and he tells her to fuck off, I think, 'you shouldn't be a parent.' Likewise, I know posh kids who were bundled off to single-sex private schools because it was easier for their parents, and it completely fucked them up because they had no concept of the world outside that school by the time they left at 18.

I appreciate that, as you say, it would be virtually impossible to actually enforce a law like this, but that's why we're discussing it on a forum and not in front of a senate. This is just my, 'in an ideal world...' opinion; I don't realistically believe it could ever go ahead.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Yes, I am talking about forced abortions, in extreme cases.

That's disgusting.

In others, if having the child can't be stopped, then they'll at least be closely monitored from the onset.

If they didn't live up to your standards where would the child go? Into care? Which, judging by your planned system, would be ridiculously overcrowded.

And yes, I think you should be of a certain level of intelligence to have a child. I don't mean you need to have gone to university, or have even graduated high school, but you should be able to display that you are capable of functioning as a human being before you commit to bringing another one into this world. Speaking of world experience, when I walk through a shop in Glasgow and hear a mum shouting at her kid to, 'fucking get in your fucking chair' and he tells her to fuck off, I think, 'you shouldn't be a parent.'

You have no idea what that person is like as a parent, other than hearing one outburst of anger in a public place for all of 5 seconds. This is what I mean about world experience. That small window does not count as knowing what constitutes a bad parent, she could be a fucking amazing mother, she just happened to snap. Raising a child is fucking hard and sometimes people are going to lose their cool, it doesn't mean the government should get to decide that they can't have any more children.

Likewise, I know posh kids who were bundled off to single-sex private schools because it was easier for their parents, and it completely fucked them up because they had no concept of the world outside that school by the time they left at 18.

Do you know that the parents did it because it was easier? Maybe they did it because they thought they were doing the best thing for their child. Perhaps they though sending them to a private school would get them a better education and chose single-sex because they genuinely thought it would be better. Sometimes parents make mistakes, it happens.

 

[rob_simple]

Yes, I am talking about forced abortions, in extreme cases.

That's disgusting.

So is letting a child die, neglected and in poverty.

In others, if having the child can't be stopped, then they'll at least be closely monitored from the onset.

If they didn't live up to your standards where would the child go? Into care? Which, judging by your planned system, would be ridiculously overcrowded.

Well, since you're so keen to let anyone shit out a kid, what would you suggest? That we leave them with the parents that shout at them constantly, beat them, and don't feed them properly until they grow up to do the exact same thing and repeat the whole process over again (yes, I know not everyone with a shitty upbringing grows up to make the same mistakes; but an overwhelming number of them don't get that Lifetime Channel happy ending and are just as fucked up as their parents.)

And yes, I think you should be of a certain level of intelligence to have a child. I don't mean you need to have gone to university, or have even graduated high school, but you should be able to display that you are capable of functioning as a human being before you commit to bringing another one into this world. Speaking of world experience, when I walk through a shop in Glasgow and hear a mum shouting at her kid to, 'fucking get in your fucking chair' and he tells her to fuck off, I think, 'you shouldn't be a parent.'

You have no idea what that person is like as a parent, other than hearing one outburst of anger in a public place for all of 5 seconds. This is what I mean about world experience. That small window does not count as knowing what constitutes a bad parent, she could be a fucking amazing mother, she just happened to snap. Raising a child is fucking hard and sometimes people are going to lose their cool, it doesn't mean the government should get to decide that they can't have any more children.

Alright, that was just a snapshot, so I'll tell you where I really see this: the woman that lives above me. She has at least four kids, doesn't work, constantly screams at them and other people in the street, while her kids run riot in the street, shouting at passers-by, going through the bins and throwing shit all over the street and generally being a fucking blight on society. Social services have been out to her before but nothing has been done because apparently this is an acceptable way to live your life and, hey, if she wants to shit out another four kids, who's gonna stop her?

Likewise, I know posh kids who were bundled off to single-sex private schools because it was easier for their parents, and it completely fucked them up because they had no concept of the world outside that school by the time they left at 18.

Do you know that the parents did it because it was easier? Maybe they did it because they thought they were doing the best thing for their child. Perhaps they though sending them to a private school would get them a better education and chose single-sex because they genuinely thought it would be better. Sometimes parents make mistakes, it happens.

I'll buckle under this one, because you're right I can't be sure. I was merely trying to make it clear that I've not just got something against people who aren't rich and posh.

What I will say, though, is there is a different between making mistakes and constantly fucking up your child's life because you are incompetent as a human being; in turn raising your child to be just as fucked up, stupid and ignorant as you are.

 

[Emperor Nat]

False rape/sexual assault accusations. Yes they are a crime in theory, but no, it's not enforced.

A woman recently went to jail for two years after falsely accusing three men of rape. They all got drunk, she regretted it, and the police called foul after 10 days or so when they noticed cracks in her story.

This is in the UK though.