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NiceGurl_14

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I hope that I don't get flagged for this one but I was just watching a program on Nazi-ism in the current day, and I was wondering what you guys think about it. I personally have a big issue with it but probably because I know that they would see me as "scum" (I'm quoting the show) of the earth seeing that I'm black.

Since the people here at the escapist are of all races/religions/backgrounds I wanna know what you guys think.
 

MBergman

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On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
 

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Furburt said:
For me, I think that fascism is the same as communism, good in theory, too susceptible to usurping by a single person or group.

Neo-Nazis however, are the scum of the earth. Combat 18 and the National Front and BNP in England, and all the loyalist organizations in Northern Ireland have this hypocritical 'keep britain white' shit that makes me want to vomit. I hope they all get whats coming to them.
Right on.
 

Lullabye

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I just love nazi's, I mean, without them how many war games would have been made? Who would I have too kill in games? Japanese? Like I feel like shootin at ninjas, Id' never win!
hoestly though...
Furburt said:
For me, I think that fascism is the same as communism, good in theory, too susceptible to usurping by a single person or group.

Neo-Nazis however, are the scum of the earth. Combat 18 and the National Front and BNP in England, and all the loyalist organizations in Northern Ireland have this hypocritical 'keep britain white' shit that makes me want to vomit. I hope they all get whats coming to them.
this sums it up pretty well for me.
 

Proteus214

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They're a bunch of ignorant xenophobes. I find it particularly sickening how in the US they try to couch their hatespeach in political rhetoric, like they are fighting for some noble cause.
 

Cargando

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Myself? I just don't understand it all. I just don't get racism. On Fascism - I'm fine with it, but prefer Socialism.
 

Canadamus Prime

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MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
 

MBergman

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canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
 

Canadamus Prime

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MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
oxymoron: n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

According to Dictionary.com
Basically a contradictory statement.
 

Kollega

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Racism always was PURE FUCKING EVIL,and IT STILL IS. Always WILL BE.

I can't say a single good thing about idea of killing people for wrong accent or skin color.
 

MBergman

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canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
oxymoron: n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

According to Dictionary.com
Basically a contradictory statement.
Ah, I see now. Thank you for expanding my vocabulary!

But is it really? Doesn't 'dictator' just mean someone who rules with absolute power? Can he still not be (hypotheticaly) fair and just in his ruling?
 

MBergman

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Kollega said:
Fachism was PURE FUCKING EVIL,and IT STILL IS. Always WILL BE.

I can't say a single good thing about idea of killing people for wrong accent or skin color.
Fascism itself is not a rasist form of goverment. I think you confuse it with Nazi-Germany BEING a fascistic country.
 

Canadamus Prime

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MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
oxymoron: n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

According to Dictionary.com
Basically a contradictory statement.
Ah, I see now. Thank you for expanding my vocabulary!

But is it really? Doesn't 'dictator' just mean someone who rules with absolute power? Can he still not be (hypotheticaly) fair and just in his ruling?
He/She may see themselves as righteous, but it's doubtful those under their rule would agree with them. Bedsides I'm reminded of the adage "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
 

MBergman

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canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
oxymoron: n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

According to Dictionary.com
Basically a contradictory statement.
Ah, I see now. Thank you for expanding my vocabulary!

But is it really? Doesn't 'dictator' just mean someone who rules with absolute power? Can he still not be (hypotheticaly) fair and just in his ruling?
He/She may see themselves as righteous, but it's doubtful those under their rule would agree with them. Bedsides I'm reminded of the adage "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Ah, I believe we have sort of the same view on this, I suppose I express myself a little vaguely. My original point was, that a dictator that could rule as fairly as possible (not only from his own prespective, and you can never please everyone but you get my point) would be the ultimate form of goverment. But also that that spefific dictator is kind of hard to come by since "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" most of the time.

I say most of the time, because somewhere in my romantic mind I still kind of want to think that all people wouldn't be.
 

Canadamus Prime

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MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
canadamus_prime said:
MBergman said:
On fascism: if we could find a righteous dictator, that would probably be the best form of goverment. Only problem is, they're kind of hard to come by from what I hear.

Discriminating people for their heritage, now that I cannot support. Doesn't make sense to me.
"Righteous dictator" is an oxymoron
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term, would you please mind explaining?
oxymoron: n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr'ə, -mōr'ə) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

According to Dictionary.com
Basically a contradictory statement.
Ah, I see now. Thank you for expanding my vocabulary!

But is it really? Doesn't 'dictator' just mean someone who rules with absolute power? Can he still not be (hypotheticaly) fair and just in his ruling?
He/She may see themselves as righteous, but it's doubtful those under their rule would agree with them. Bedsides I'm reminded of the adage "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Ah, I believe we have sort of the same view on this, I suppose I express myself a little vaguely. My original point was, that a dictator that could rule as fairly as possible (not only from his own prespective, and you can never please everyone but you get my point) would be the ultimate form of goverment. But also that that spefific dictator is kind of hard to come by since "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" most of the time.

I say most of the time, because somewhere in my romantic mind I still kind of want to think that all people wouldn't be.
Well what I was getting at is a bunch of religious nutbags (no offense intended) who go on a so-called "holy crusade" *insert sarcastic air quotes here* to wipe out all who they determine to be infidels and heretics also see themselves as righteous, but are they really? Nooooooo.
 

orangebandguy

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Killing people because of their race is WRONG, I know of some fascistic people on this site but I doubt even they take themselves that seriously.

Quite frankly I don't want to get killed because I'm not a blond haired blue eyed person. I like who I am.
 

Kollega

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MBergman said:
Kollega said:
Fachism was PURE FUCKING EVIL,and IT STILL IS. Always WILL BE.

I can't say a single good thing about idea of killing people for wrong accent or skin color.
Fascism itself is not a rasist form of goverment. I think you confuse it with Nazi-Germany BEING a fascistic country.
Sorry,fixed. RACISM is evil.
 

orangebandguy

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Demented Teddy said:
orangebandguy said:
Killing people because of their race is WRONG, I know of some fascistic people on this site but I doubt even they take themselves that seriously.

Quite frankly I don't want to get killed because I'm not a blond haired blue eyed person. I like who I am.
Sorry but we do take ourselves seriously.
However that doesn't mean we want to kill people because of their race.
You're painting us all with one brush.
Ok so what ideals do you have?

I'm intrigued by you, you're an interesting person.