I think you meant to say, "hundreds of new, amazing Pokemon that in many cases are just as good, if not better than most of the originals!" Don't worry, we all make mistakes, but I've got your back.Drathnoxis said:
What do you want to see in Pokemon go
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wait watttt. walk to another town?!? how far apart are your "towns" located? it's a solid 50 minute drive (short of suburbs, but those are just part of my city) to get to the nearest next city.Ocelano said:
OT: this seems cool but I'll have to see it put into practice first before I judge it, they could do it REALLY RIGHT or do it extremely wrong (in the way that it's a cash grab and any 3rd rate programmer could've made up with some google maps data.)
Oh, thanks! I must have lost my mind there for a second.Hero of Lime said:I think you meant to say, "hundreds of new, amazing Pokemon that in many cases are just as good, if not better than most of the originals!" Don't worry, we all make mistakes, but I've got your back.Drathnoxis said:
I completely forgot about the quality of the new generations.
The last time I praised 1st gen Pokemon over latter generations I got called "nostalfag". At least some fans like you are well-mannered in their condescension.Hero of Lime said:I think you meant to say, "hundreds of new, amazing Pokemon that in many cases are just as good, if not better than most of the originals!" Don't worry, we all make mistakes, but I've got your back.Drathnoxis said:
Don't start a gen war you know you cannot finish Drathnoxis.Drathnoxis said:Oh, thanks! I must have lost my mind there for a second.
I completely forgot about the quality of the new generations.
Stunfisk is derpy, but it fits the appearance of the real life version very well. And it looks like a pancake, and pancakes rule!
Spiritomb is AWESOME! It's made up of 108 vengeful spirits, that's some spooktacular stuff.
Throh is OK. I won't deny Sawk and Throh are kinda meh in terms of design. Competitively though, Throh can be a monster.
Klefki is based on Japanese myths of fairy-like creatures stealing objects like keys. Honesty, I think Gamefreak made Klefki to antagonize people complaining about object Pokemon.
And poor Trubbish. Trubbish was made to complete the pollution trio. Koffing is air pollution, Grimer is water pollution, and Trubbish is land pollution.
Plus, these are 5 Pokemon out of 570 non gen 1 Pokemon. Based on those numbers, I would say Gamefreak has done a fantastic job making new Pokemon.
For all the great Gen 1 Pokemon, there are many that are incredibly lame and forgettable.
Krabby: Crab
Kingler: Slightly bigger crab.
Dugtrio: Three angry digletts.
Magneton: Three Magnemites.
Voltorb: Pokeball with eyes.
Electrode: Upside down Pokeball with eyes and a grin.
Lickitung: A tongue based...thing?
Rattata: Purple rat.
Eggsecute: Just a bunch of eggs with faces.
Seel: A seal with a misspelled name.
Dewgong: Bigger seel.
Doduo: Ostrich with two heads.
Dodrio: Ostrich with three heads.
Muk: Bigger Grimer.
Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeot, Spearow, Fearow, Farfetch'd: Birds. The other gens have their own problems with early route birds, but the ones listed here are just as boring(from a design standpoint) as they are.
Moltres: Turkey on fire. If you want a cool legendary fire bird, get a Ho oh.
Despite all this, I don't hate any of these Pokemon. I just feel they don't deserve so much love just because they were in the first set, and all the new ones deserve such ire for not being made soon enough.
I think if anyone were to spend enough time with newer Pokemon, they would come to love them too. Give them the chance they deserve.
Trust me, I hate terms like that. I've been called the same for liking old games, or even liking certain franchises. Plus, I was mostly being sarcastic with a little condescension sprinkled in. People putting down newer Pokemon is just a huge pet peeve of mine. A 12 year old kid deserves to have their favorites from newer generations in Pokemon GO just as much as a 22 year old deserves to have their first gen favorites. I doubt you would disagree.Johnny Novgorod said:
If your favorite Pokemon generation is the first one, that is not a problem with me, or most fans like me who defend the newer Pokemon. I still love a lot of Gen 1 Pokemon too, because many of them are great. I grew up with them myself after all. Back when we had our Pokemon forum games, and you never once were over judgmental to newer Pokemon. If someone calls you a "nostalfag," screw them.
I get the feeling the reality of catching wild pokemon will be you going to a specific part of town or the country, and only then getting a "random encounter" similar to normal Pokemon games.
What I'd really love is to actually SEE pokemon in the real environment through use of the camera on my phone (obviously with the pokemon being inserted into the picture) like with how Dream Eater pictures could be taken in Kingdom Hearts 3D. Now with Kingdom Hearts, I didn't give a rats ass about taking photos with my Dream Eaters, like, in my house and shit - but the software could be used here. It just might be a little difficult to do so that you don't see a Pikachu standing on the front of a tree or something...
I'm not sure if what I'm even proposing is remotely plausible, but that's how they had me imagine it in the trailer so that's what I feel I should get my hopes up for... but I won't.
What I'd really love is to actually SEE pokemon in the real environment through use of the camera on my phone (obviously with the pokemon being inserted into the picture) like with how Dream Eater pictures could be taken in Kingdom Hearts 3D. Now with Kingdom Hearts, I didn't give a rats ass about taking photos with my Dream Eaters, like, in my house and shit - but the software could be used here. It just might be a little difficult to do so that you don't see a Pikachu standing on the front of a tree or something...
I'm not sure if what I'm even proposing is remotely plausible, but that's how they had me imagine it in the trailer so that's what I feel I should get my hopes up for... but I won't.
Yes, some of the first gen designs may be a little boring, but at least they aren't an over designed mess like some of the newer ones.Hero of Lime said:Don't start a gen war you know you cannot finish Drathnoxis.Drathnoxis said:Oh, thanks! I must have lost my mind there for a second.
I completely forgot about the quality of the new generations.
Stunfisk is derpy, but it fits the appearance of the real life version very well. And it looks like a pancake, and pancakes rule!
Spiritomb is AWESOME! It's made up of 108 vengeful spirits, that's some spooktacular stuff.
Throh is OK. I won't deny Sawk and Throh are kinda meh in terms of design. Competitively though, Throh can be a monster.
Klefki is based on Japanese myths of fairy-like creatures stealing objects like keys. Honesty, I think Gamefreak made Klefki to antagonize people complaining about object Pokemon.
And poor Trubbish. Trubbish was made to complete the pollution trio. Koffing is air pollution, Grimer is water pollution, and Trubbish is land pollution.
Plus, these are 5 Pokemon out of 570 non gen 1 Pokemon. Based on those numbers, I would say Gamefreak has done a fantastic job making new Pokemon.
For all the great Gen 1 Pokemon, there are many that are incredibly lame and forgettable.
Krabby: Crab
Kingler: Slightly bigger crab.
Dugtrio: Three angry digletts.
Magneton: Three Magnemites.
Voltorb: Pokeball with eyes.
Electrode: Upside down Pokeball with eyes and a grin.
Lickitung: A tongue based...thing?
Rattata: Purple rat.
Eggsecute: Just a bunch of eggs with faces.
Seel: A seal with a misspelled name.
Dewgong: Bigger seel.
Doduo: Ostrich with two heads.
Dodrio: Ostrich with three heads.
Muk: Bigger Grimer.
Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeot, Spearow, Fearow, Farfetch'd: Birds. The other gens have their own problems with early route birds, but the ones listed here are just as boring(from a design standpoint) as they are.
Moltres: Turkey on fire. If you want a cool legendary fire bird, get a Ho oh.
Despite all this, I don't hate any of these Pokemon. I just feel they don't deserve so much love just because they were in the first set, and all the new ones deserve such ire for not being made soon enough.
I think if anyone were to spend enough time with newer Pokemon, they would come to love them too. Give them the chance they deserve.
I can't even tell what this is supposed to be, it looks like a scribble with fins.
Someone just couldn't stop drawing antlers here, it's got antlers on it's antlers.
These all look like someone drew a pokemon, thought it didn't look cool enough, and kept adding more and more spikes and armor plates.
My main problem with the new pokemon other than how some of them look, and the reason I stopped watching pokemon as a kid, is that it makes no sense for there to be so bloody many of the things. Professor Oak told me that there were 150 pokemon, now there's over 700. The pokemon world has telecommunication, so how is it that Oak was unaware of the extra 550 living in other regions? What, he just stuck his head in a bucket and refused to talk to any of the other researchers? He was willfully spreading misinformation? It's not even like most of them were rare, undiscovered pokemon, they're everywhere!
I would! I'm older, I have more experience so obviously I know better, they should defer to my seniority and just like what I like.Hero of Lime said:
That would be so hilarious. Okay kids, go walk back and forth in the long grass for an hour and maybe you can catch a bulbasaur.Auron225 said:
-It'll take 2-3 years to "catch them all" without actually leaving your specific location...
-Different Pokemon appear (in the same area) per day and/or week as well as by the location's respected seasons...
-Factors in roads/highways/freeways/streets so that no Pokemon spawns in the middle of them...
Other than that, I got nothing...
-Different Pokemon appear (in the same area) per day and/or week as well as by the location's respected seasons...
-Factors in roads/highways/freeways/streets so that no Pokemon spawns in the middle of them...
Other than that, I got nothing...
Ingress had a range for its events just over the distance if the width of my local streets so Even if it does spawn there you should be good from the footpathFPLOON said:-It'll take 2-3 years to "catch them all" without actually leaving your specific location...
-Different Pokemon appear (in the same area) per day and/or week as well as by the location's respected seasons...
-Factors in roads/highways/freeways/streets so that no Pokemon spawns in the middle of them...
Other than that, I got nothing...
Well, as long as some of my favorites aren't in your example list. Sees you included Giratina and Xerneas in the list. Noooo! Both Giratina and Xerneas are in my top ten favorite Pokemon.Drathnoxis said:Yes, some of the first gen designs may be a little boring, but at least they aren't an over designed mess like some of the newer ones.
I can't even tell what this is supposed to be, it looks like a scribble with fins.
Someone just couldn't stop drawing antlers here, it's got antlers on it's antlers.
These all look like someone drew a pokemon, thought it didn't look cool enough, and kept adding more and more spikes and armor plates.
My main problem with the new pokemon other than how some of them look, and the reason I stopped watching pokemon as a kid, is that it makes no sense for there to be so bloody many of the things. Professor Oak told me that there were 150 pokemon, now there's over 700. The pokemon world has telecommunication, so how is it that Oak was unaware of the extra 550 living in other regions? What, he just stuck his head in a bucket and refused to talk to any of the other researchers? He was willfully spreading misinformation? It's not even like most of them were rare, undiscovered pokemon, they're everywhere!
The over designed issue is fair enough, but I would never think less of a Pokemon being too over designed. I may have been mean to some of the Pokemon I brought up for having very simple designs, but I don't hate simple designed Pokemon either. I think its the natural progression of designs to get more and more complicated.
Also, Oak clearly does not know what he is talking about. Like you said, he says there is only 150 Pokemon, yet there were 151 back then. He's not the premier Pokemon professor we all thought he was.
Well Dragagle is based off of the Leafy/Weedy Sea Dragon and from the looks of the real thing Dragagle is way less complicated.Drathnoxis said:Hero of Lime said:Drathnoxis said:Oh, thanks! I must have lost my mind there for a second.
I completely forgot about the quality of the new generations.
Don't start a gen war you know you cannot finish Drathnoxis.
Stunfisk is derpy, but it fits the appearance of the real life version very well. And it looks like a pancake, and pancakes rule!
Spiritomb is AWESOME! It's made up of 108 vengeful spirits, that's some spooktacular stuff.
Throh is OK. I won't deny Sawk and Throh are kinda meh in terms of design. Competitively though, Throh can be a monster.
Klefki is based on Japanese myths of fairy-like creatures stealing objects like keys. Honesty, I think Gamefreak made Klefki to antagonize people complaining about object Pokemon.
And poor Trubbish. Trubbish was made to complete the pollution trio. Koffing is air pollution, Grimer is water pollution, and Trubbish is land pollution.
Plus, these are 5 Pokemon out of 570 non gen 1 Pokemon. Based on those numbers, I would say Gamefreak has done a fantastic job making new Pokemon.
For all the great Gen 1 Pokemon, there are many that are incredibly lame and forgettable.
Krabby: Crab
Kingler: Slightly bigger crab.
Dugtrio: Three angry digletts.
Magneton: Three Magnemites.
Voltorb: Pokeball with eyes.
Electrode: Upside down Pokeball with eyes and a grin.
Lickitung: A tongue based...thing?
Rattata: Purple rat.
Eggsecute: Just a bunch of eggs with faces.
Seel: A seal with a misspelled name.
Dewgong: Bigger seel.
Doduo: Ostrich with two heads.
Dodrio: Ostrich with three heads.
Muk: Bigger Grimer.
Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeot, Spearow, Fearow, Farfetch'd: Birds. The other gens have their own problems with early route birds, but the ones listed here are just as boring(from a design standpoint) as they are.
Moltres: Turkey on fire. If you want a cool legendary fire bird, get a Ho oh.
Despite all this, I don't hate any of these Pokemon. I just feel they don't deserve so much love just because they were in the first set, and all the new ones deserve such ire for not being made soon enough.
I think if anyone were to spend enough time with newer Pokemon, they would come to love them too. Give them the chance they deserve.Yes, some of the first gen designs may be a little boring, but at least they aren't an over designed mess like some of the newer ones.
I can't even tell what this is supposed to be, it looks like a scribble with fins.
Someone just couldn't stop drawing antlers here, it's got antlers on it's antlers.
These all look like someone drew a pokemon, thought it didn't look cool enough, and kept adding more and more spikes and armor plates.
My main problem with the new pokemon other than how some of them look, and the reason I stopped watching pokemon as a kid, is that it makes no sense for there to be so bloody many of the things. Professor Oak told me that there were 150 pokemon, now there's over 700. The pokemon world has telecommunication, so how is it that Oak was unaware of the extra 550 living in other regions? What, he just stuck his head in a bucket and refused to talk to any of the other researchers? He was willfully spreading misinformation? It's not even like most of them were rare, undiscovered pokemon, they're everywhere!
Xerneas isn't too bad either since I can still tell that it's got 8 neatly placed horns with clear origins and end points.
And you forgot to add Nidoking and Rhyhorn to your list of too many spikes and armor plates.
I don't recall Oak saying that there were 150 Pokemon and absolutely no more after that. Just that there are 150 Pokemon native to the Kanto region (with the confirmation of Mew's existence being a recent discovery). Even if they did say that then what would the point be in telling the audience that there are hundreds of Pokemon that they can't catch? It's not like they knew how big Pokemon would be and planned all 700+ Pokemon from the get go.
Ohhhh, see, when I clicked on this topic, I thought it was asking what we'd want to see in pokemon go, as in, you know, you want it gone. That would be IVs. and Genwunners. and the ability for wild pokemon to know selfdestruct/explosion
but we're talking about the mobile game, huh? well then,
I don't want the starter pokemon to be starters. I'm so sick of starters. They're boring. Your starter pokemon in Pokemon Go should be whatever pokemon you find first in the wild. It just makes sense to me.
I'd also like legendaries to be extremely rare, like, only one of each rare. It may sound surprising, but if everyone has one, it kinda takes the luster out of "Legendary"
Also, gotta be accurate to the games, yo. Pigeys and ratatas (Some of the best pokemon cuz they came first) everywhere. Just, absolutely everywhere, with higher chance of a top percentage ratata if you're easily wearing comfy shorts.
but we're talking about the mobile game, huh? well then,
I don't want the starter pokemon to be starters. I'm so sick of starters. They're boring. Your starter pokemon in Pokemon Go should be whatever pokemon you find first in the wild. It just makes sense to me.
I'd also like legendaries to be extremely rare, like, only one of each rare. It may sound surprising, but if everyone has one, it kinda takes the luster out of "Legendary"
Also, gotta be accurate to the games, yo. Pigeys and ratatas (Some of the best pokemon cuz they came first) everywhere. Just, absolutely everywhere, with higher chance of a top percentage ratata if you're easily wearing comfy shorts.
Well I still think Dragagle looks dumb, even if it's based off of a dumb looking real, uh, thing.Semi-DemiFiend said:
Hmm, I'm actually not sure now whether Oak said it. I thought he did, but I can't find a specific quote of him. Anyway Bill, from the anime said this:
They do try to leave it open, but I just cannot reconcile that quote with the fact that there are so many more bloody pokemon. Even in the second generation that quote makes no sense.Mystery at the Lighthouse said:
It's oddly specific. Why a hundred and fifty? Why not just say more than a hundred, or hundreds? That means that the number of known pokemon is actually really close to 150, otherwise he wouldn't have been so specific. As of generation 2 there are 256 pokemon, and Bill is off by over 100. Now there are 721 and the statement is positively ludicrous in how far short it fell. This is like if a well known and respected zoologist told me that there were more than 35 different mammals in the world, the number is so low it's ridiculous.
The fact that he leaves it open doesn't count for much when the way he says it implies that the undiscovered pokemon will be uncommon, because why else would they be undiscovered. This is blatantly false, as most of the 721 are exceedingly common in their respective region. And as I said earlier, the pokemon world has telecommunication, so there is no reason Bill would not have known about them.
You can make excuses and say that Nintendo had no idea how big the games would get, but that doesn't change that Nintendo constantly pushed the fact that there were 151 pokemon right up until there were suddenly a hundred more. You can't just change the rules of a world on a whim and have it remain believable, it's just bad storytelling.
Well, I'll admit Oak is a little dubious, he can't remember his grandson's name after all, but Bill said it too! And Bill is a pokemon researcher you can trust!Hero of Lime said:
But really, did the games actually need to have so many pokemon? Does it actually add to the games to have 100 more in each generation?
I don't know, I was never drawn to pokemon because there were simply a huge number of things to collect. I got into pokemon through the anime, so pokemon was always more about making friends with sentient elemental animals, forcing them to do horrific battle with eachother, and having adventures. When I did play the games I tended to get attached to my party and didn't really care about catching 'em all. Really, if the only thing they can do to keep new installments interesting is to add more and more pokemon, then they really aren't trying hard enough to keep the gameplay or story fresh.
I'm not asking for this immediately, but I would love if some kind of AR goggles/glasses/whatever got implemented so that what was seen in the trailer could in fact happen. And from what I understand, the technology does exist that it could be possible, it's just a question of bringing it all together in a way that is small and fairly cheap.