What Games Should Stop Being Made?
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You gave your opinion but also bashed everybody else's.D Moness said:
Because people in this thread are arrogant and selfish? Is that why they decided to share what they think should stop? No, it's a complete speculation. Saying "I think this or the other has outlived its usefulness" does not make a person bad.D Moness said:
As a former fan of Sonic and Pokemon...
Sonic and Pokemon.
Pokemon could at least be salvaged if they stopped recycling Red/Blue and made an original RPG again. As it is right now, gamers only buy the new Pokemon games for their tweaks to the multiplayer.
Sonic and Pokemon.
Pokemon could at least be salvaged if they stopped recycling Red/Blue and made an original RPG again. As it is right now, gamers only buy the new Pokemon games for their tweaks to the multiplayer.
Any continuation of mass effect is just going to be in the universe it wont involve shepard bioware confirmed this ages ago it will be a completely new storytzimize said:
lets see:
assassins creed, FIFA, Call of duty, spyro the dragon, ben 10, uncharted, final fantasy, diablo, warcraft, fallout, mass effect, dragon age,resident evil.
thats what is at the top of my head atm.
assassins creed, FIFA, Call of duty, spyro the dragon, ben 10, uncharted, final fantasy, diablo, warcraft, fallout, mass effect, dragon age,resident evil.
thats what is at the top of my head atm.
That's what they're doing with Mass Effect (at least, that's what they're saying they're doing). Shepard's story ends with 3 and we get a new story and characters in the next game(s). I really like that--they don't have to milk Shepard's story long after it's dead just to keep making ME games, and it looks like they're not going to.tzimize said:
Edit: Whoops, getoffmycloud already said this. It's easy to miss the second page on these forums.
Any game that has been annualized or has less than a 3-4 year development cycle. Barring of course if they can revolutionize the IP or genre in that time.
I love call of duty, I have most of them save for world at war, mw3 and the sole reason I got black ops was it was where my social group was at the time, and it was in a different setting than every previously offered.
However the cycle is ludicrous now, not respecting that they kill off the old game more or less when the next one comes out, everyone will be over on blops 2 this november and mw4 the following.
This comes back to the dlc problem where they add 70 bucks worth of maps for a game that gets 1uped shortly after all the content is released for it. The gaming equivalent of apple products, buy now, regret it when we shove the new one in your face 6 months later.
Now having said this, call of duty gets this flack because it does so incredibly well. Which in turn gets everyone to follow suit.
I want something to happen before we set in stone annualized games with day one dlc, multiplayer passes, 200 bucks worth of dlc that is mostly just cool stuff taken out because they knew you'd buy it. and then get one upped the following november 14th.
If your game is nothing more than a reskin with new story, cut development right now.
I love call of duty, I have most of them save for world at war, mw3 and the sole reason I got black ops was it was where my social group was at the time, and it was in a different setting than every previously offered.
However the cycle is ludicrous now, not respecting that they kill off the old game more or less when the next one comes out, everyone will be over on blops 2 this november and mw4 the following.
This comes back to the dlc problem where they add 70 bucks worth of maps for a game that gets 1uped shortly after all the content is released for it. The gaming equivalent of apple products, buy now, regret it when we shove the new one in your face 6 months later.
Now having said this, call of duty gets this flack because it does so incredibly well. Which in turn gets everyone to follow suit.
I want something to happen before we set in stone annualized games with day one dlc, multiplayer passes, 200 bucks worth of dlc that is mostly just cool stuff taken out because they knew you'd buy it. and then get one upped the following november 14th.
If your game is nothing more than a reskin with new story, cut development right now.
I agree, I don't see the need to get rid of any game series. If you don't like it don't buy it but don't say that people who do like shouldn't get to play it.tippy2k2 said:
I'm with you, I like Mario.LilithSlave said:
Mario, Zelda, Halo (until they start making them like the fucking advertisements), Sonic, Call of Duty (Less frequent, more polish, no more 5 hour single player), Final Fantasy (after versus 13 just stop, please) and The Sims.
Can't think of any more off the top of my head.
Can't think of any more off the top of my head.
But that's not how the industry works unfortunately.Take CoD for example.If Activision decided to stop making CoD games with immediate effect do you really think their dev studios would be free to work on new creative games?No they'd just be put to work on whatever franchise Acti thinks is the next one it can milk annually.Do you think we'd see a decline in military FPS games?No because there's clearly a massive market for them so all we'd get is other companies rushing to fill the voidSmiley Face said:
As long as the series remains relatively consistent and loved by its fanbase, I really don't see any reason why they can't go on forever. There are a lot of games out there that I have no real love for, Madden, Halo, Elder Scrolls, anything Bioware, FPS genre in general, but I do not want to see them disappear from the shelves. Instead, they should be there for the people that are interested in them, and so should be all the stuff that I'm interested in.
I would reserve a few caveats to this:
If the franchise falls into self parody, like the Guitar Hero franchise, then it probably should disappear for a half decade so people can start wanting it again.
If you have three or more production houses working on franchise installments simultaneously just to make sure you meet some one game a year quota, you probably should retire the franchise for a time.
If you just release the same game every year anyway, consider a subscription based model, where the disc is all the information that makes the game run and make everything else downloadable content. It would save EA so much money if they just did not make Madden 13 and make it just Madden. They can charge a little more for the disc, say 70.00 dollars, and something reasonable for the season pack, like 25.00 or something.
I would reserve a few caveats to this:
If the franchise falls into self parody, like the Guitar Hero franchise, then it probably should disappear for a half decade so people can start wanting it again.
If you have three or more production houses working on franchise installments simultaneously just to make sure you meet some one game a year quota, you probably should retire the franchise for a time.
If you just release the same game every year anyway, consider a subscription based model, where the disc is all the information that makes the game run and make everything else downloadable content. It would save EA so much money if they just did not make Madden 13 and make it just Madden. They can charge a little more for the disc, say 70.00 dollars, and something reasonable for the season pack, like 25.00 or something.
Little reason to jump to other MMOs. I abandon many MMOs for this reason. It's horrific when they can't even improve on older games. Of if you end up with 10 useless skills to start off with. I think the one I tried yesterday, by level 3, I would start a 1v1 fight (they're always 1v1), and I pressed 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 to use those skills in turn. None of it really mattered.Xannidel said:
Well IDK if I'm hitting the spot with this really, but I do feel that a lot of the MMOs around are shooting themselves in the foot by following the WoW recipe, and that games that do this should stop. From what I can see, the vast majority of MMOs that do this (...and the vast majority DO) tend to fail because WoW simply does it "better". They have the experience, the loyalty, the funds and the background to beat almost anyone trying to snatch a piece of MMO pie.
Then again many of the MMOs that try to do something new fail too, so I guess the question becomes "how does one do an MMO in a new way that will get people playing continuously?"
No idea... Personally I liked the way Fallen Earth did it. Shame not enough others did, likely something to do with the massively annoying problems and bugs the game experienced in the first year or so ater release release X3. My favorite part was the extremely detailed and vast crafting system in that game. I think WoT does so well because it's the only proper Tank MMO out there (or tank game hands down, not counting a few pretty decent simulators and older games). It doesn't really compete with WoW. While I love the customization options in APB: Reloaded (more companies do this please!!!), it's messy combat kind of spoils the atmosphere. There's much more being angry and fustrated than there is having fun, for me anyway. The only things I could be sure of enjoying was sitting around making my character and her clothes awesome. Combat could be neat if you fought against someone you were somewhat equal with in experience, weapons and level, but as soon as you get into a fight with someone that plays a lot more than you (and I play so many games, never dedicate myself to a single one at any time), you'll end up getting killed 20 times in a row easily and do nothing sensible at all. Very annoying *shakes fist at bunny-hopping supershotgunwielders of doom*.
And Zelda for purely selfish reasons, I'm tired of friends going on and on about how the "new Zelda game is sooo awesome", but every time I watch them play it I get that distinct feeling of having seen them play in that area before in a previous game... Perhaps with worse graphics, but still.
Then again many of the MMOs that try to do something new fail too, so I guess the question becomes "how does one do an MMO in a new way that will get people playing continuously?"
No idea... Personally I liked the way Fallen Earth did it. Shame not enough others did, likely something to do with the massively annoying problems and bugs the game experienced in the first year or so ater release release X3. My favorite part was the extremely detailed and vast crafting system in that game. I think WoT does so well because it's the only proper Tank MMO out there (or tank game hands down, not counting a few pretty decent simulators and older games). It doesn't really compete with WoW. While I love the customization options in APB: Reloaded (more companies do this please!!!), it's messy combat kind of spoils the atmosphere. There's much more being angry and fustrated than there is having fun, for me anyway. The only things I could be sure of enjoying was sitting around making my character and her clothes awesome. Combat could be neat if you fought against someone you were somewhat equal with in experience, weapons and level, but as soon as you get into a fight with someone that plays a lot more than you (and I play so many games, never dedicate myself to a single one at any time), you'll end up getting killed 20 times in a row easily and do nothing sensible at all. Very annoying *shakes fist at bunny-hopping supershotgunwielders of doom*.
And Zelda for purely selfish reasons, I'm tired of friends going on and on about how the "new Zelda game is sooo awesome", but every time I watch them play it I get that distinct feeling of having seen them play in that area before in a previous game... Perhaps with worse graphics, but still.
Why? Justify your opinion at least. If TES and GTA were coming out every 2 or so years, yeah, I'd understand. But it was 4 years between Oblivion/IV and Skyrim/V. No need to be so touchy because someone's called you out.Lagao said:
THIS!tippy2k2 said:
This repeated a hundred times!
Seriously, I you don't like it, don't play it. It's simple. I don't like many games, but I've never thought that they should stop making them.